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The Madness of Harold Camping (The founder of FAMILY RADIO keep setting dates for Christ's return)
Exposing Darkness ^ | July 2009 | Robert Gianserra

Posted on 07/31/2009 11:00:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/31/2009 11:00:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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HAROLD CAMPING : FOUNDER OF FAMILY RADIO INTERNATIONAL
2 posted on 07/31/2009 11:03:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He keeps setting dates because it’s working for him. As soon as it stops working he’ll stop too.


3 posted on 07/31/2009 11:06:22 AM PDT by shineon
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To: SeekAndFind
HAROLD CAMPING'S BOOK THAT PREDICTED THE RETURN OF CHRIST IN 1994

4 posted on 07/31/2009 11:06:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

A false prophet Rev. Ike died today. Camping maybe next.


5 posted on 07/31/2009 11:07:06 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: SeekAndFind
James White "debated" him on Iron Sharpens Iron two days this week.

Sad. Mr. Camping didn't come off as all there anymore.

6 posted on 07/31/2009 11:07:52 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalists say the darndest things!")
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To: shineon

Watch out for May 21, 2011. This time Harold Camping says he’s gotten it right.

I’m going to ask him to give me all his property 6 months before that date. After all, he won’t need them anymore since he’s so sure.


7 posted on 07/31/2009 11:07:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

As you properly posted this in the Religion forum, I’ll keep my opinions on how asinine this guy is to myself.


8 posted on 07/31/2009 11:08:10 AM PDT by whattajoke (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Camping is his own worst enemy.

He has failed so many times that his name is a synonym for feckless.


9 posted on 07/31/2009 11:09:51 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: SeekAndFind

Harold Camping started going down this road years ago. Mid eighties he had one line where it was time to stop evangelizing, the role of the church was at that point just to keep believers from falling away. Believers were to have as little as possible in dealing with the outside world - an extreme version of what I call “bomb shelter Christianity”, where everyone is just huddled in their bomb shelter church, lest they be contaminated by the outside. He sounds like he is afraid to smile or laugh, it might be sinful (I knew some Christians that had that point of view, they also listened to a lot of Camping).


10 posted on 07/31/2009 11:13:17 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s gotta be wrong, its going to end Dec 21, 2012


11 posted on 07/31/2009 11:18:44 AM PDT by Godzilla (TEA - Taxed Enough Already)
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To: Fred Hayek

I was coming back from vacation last summer and I turned on the scan option of my stereo to just listen. A Christian talk show came up and I listened. The elderly host was commenting on these things and I felt uncomfortable in my spirit about them. The words false prophet came into my mind. When the station break came up it mentioned that it was Harold Camping.

Jeremiah 23:1-4

Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! says the Lord. 2Therefore, thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, concerning the shepherds who shepherd my people: It is you who have scattered my flock, and have driven them away, and you have not attended to them. So I will attend to you for your evil doings, says the Lord.


12 posted on 07/31/2009 11:20:04 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He seemed sane for quite a while, but he has really gone off the deep end. Sadly, he is taking a lot of people with him.


13 posted on 07/31/2009 11:22:15 AM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The book on Camping:

http://www.amazon.com/Shockwave-2000-Harold-Camping-Debacle/dp/0892212691


14 posted on 07/31/2009 11:36:29 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Lee N. Field
Jesus is coming back on May 21, 2011. On that day true Christian will be raptured and everyone else will come under the judgment of Christ for a period of five months, ending on October 21, 2011.

Love your tagline ("Dispensationalists Say The Darndest Things!"). There's been at least one post defending Camping on another thread. I wonder if we'll get any technicolor commentary in defense of Harold Camping?

Related threads:
Apocalypse soon
Prophecy Pundits are at it Again
The Tribulation has already begun New book will reveal the details
Christians and Freemasonry, Harold Camping's Open Forum; 28 March AD 2005
Family Radio" , Harold Camping, Robert A. Cook

15 posted on 07/31/2009 12:00:13 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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To: Lee N. Field

Amills say the darnedest things.


16 posted on 07/31/2009 12:02:18 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Lee N. Field
Sad. Mr. Camping didn't come off as all there anymore.

Yes, sad is the word. Family Radio is one of the few stations that still plays the great Christian hymns of faith that I grew up with ( instead of the more contemporary music we often hear today ).
17 posted on 07/31/2009 12:05:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: DarthVader
"A false prophet Rev. Ike died today. Camping maybe next."

That pic looks like Weekend at Bernie's Family Hour.

18 posted on 07/31/2009 12:09:13 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

I know. He looks dead and embalmed now.


19 posted on 07/31/2009 12:11:49 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Alex Murphy
There's been at least one post defending Camping on another thread. I wonder if we'll get any technicolor commentary in defense of Harold Camping?

Iron Sharpens Iron had James White alone on (Harold Camping alone on Friday) yesterday talking about the Camping debate yesterday. I listened to it. Camping supporters were coming out of the woodwork.

20 posted on 07/31/2009 2:07:43 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalists say the darndest things!")
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To: BibChr
Amills say the darnedest things.

You're not shouting at me, and raving about the nephelim. That's good.

21 posted on 07/31/2009 2:09:23 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalists say the darndest things!")
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To: Lee N. Field

Um... huh?


22 posted on 07/31/2009 2:10:59 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this “Family Radio” the shortwave station from Scituate, Massachusetts and Lake Okeechobee, Florida?


23 posted on 07/31/2009 2:37:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shema` Yisra'el, HaShem 'Eloqeynu, HaShem 'Echad!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

They have stations worldwide.

See here :

http://www.familyradio.com/


24 posted on 07/31/2009 2:40:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yep, that’s the one. WYFR. They and HCJB (”The Voice of the Andes”) in Quito, Ecuador were the two main Fundamentalist Protestant shortwave stations back when I used to listen and collect QSL cards. I think the Internet has now sort of made shortwave obsolete.


25 posted on 07/31/2009 2:47:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shema` Yisra'el, HaShem 'Eloqeynu, HaShem 'Echad!)
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To: Alex Murphy
Love your tagline ("Dispensationalists Say The Darndest Things!"). There's been at least one post defending Camping on another thread. I wonder if we'll get any technicolor commentary in defense of Harold Camping?

Sure, why not...

I don't know anything about this guy but on this particular topic, I can not see where believing Jesus will return on one day as opposed to another will have even the least bit to do with the salvation of that believer...

I mean it's not like this guy is telling people they have a place in heaven because someone dripped some water on them and they ate a cracker named God...

26 posted on 07/31/2009 5:36:28 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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....on this particular topic, I can not see where believing Jesus will return on one day as opposed to another will have even the least bit to do with the salvation of that believer....

You and me both, friend. You and me both.

27 posted on 07/31/2009 6:10:12 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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To: SeekAndFind

(In your deepest rumbling, tumbling, graveliest voice)”. . . and thank you for sharing.”


28 posted on 07/31/2009 9:30:11 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Iscool
I mean it's not like this guy is telling people they have a place in heaven because someone dripped some water on them and they ate a cracker named God...

The man also holds a lot of strange beliefs.

Camping teaches that “the work of the church is finished,” and that those who remain in the church, during the time of the on-coming “tribulation,” will be destroyed. He thus bids the faithful to flee the church. He goes so far as to suggest that if one were to find a church “where it appears that each and every doctrine they hold is faithful to the Word of God,” it should be avoided — if one hopes to escape the impending destruction.

Harold Camping teaches that the Holy Spirit is NO LONGER working in the church!

Harold Camping teaches that EVERY church in the world is apostate!

So, do you go to church ? If you do, according to Camping, you won't escape the impending destruction.

Camping also teaches that there will be no eternal damnation of the unsaved but they will simply be annihilated. Camping also teaches that Jesus, as the Christ, died before the foundation of the earth, and then BECAME the Son of God upon His resurrection: the cross then is just a "representation" of what He did in eternity past!

The cross does not pay for sin, as that was done prior to the Incarnation! This incredibly absurd belief, which overthrows every possible part of the Bible's teaching on the cross, the incarnation, atonement, etc., is just another example of the fact that once you are cut loose from the foundation of Scripture, there is no end of the silliness you can end up promoting.
29 posted on 08/01/2009 10:03:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

OK...Sounds like a real wingnut...


30 posted on 08/01/2009 10:31:02 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: SeekAndFind
the cross then is just a "representation" of what He did in eternity past!

Hmmm. That sounds like....

31 posted on 08/02/2009 5:10:52 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalists say the darndest things!")
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To: SeekAndFind
This man is a prophet of the devil. He has been assigned to spread nothing but lies and propaganda.

No one can determine the end of time other than the Lord himself. He knows when and according to the bible, we will know that it is time when it actually gets here. This is repeated a number of times in the New Testament.

He is a rude and obnoxious man who needs to be taken off the air for immoral and outrageous behavior. How could a religious program like this continue to have him on the air. They need to find someone who is morally and ethically correct to take over and make it worth listening to.

32 posted on 10/23/2009 4:05:45 AM PDT by mamalynn42
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The problem with Harold Camping is he is at this point in time, UNTEACHABLE.

Years after his first debacle ( he predicted Christ would return in 1994 and wrote a book about it ), pastors, teachers and elders have all tried to reach out to him to stop this madness. They’ve tried to counsel him, advise him, warn him at first privately, then publicly, to no avail.

One of them is Dr. James White, who actually challenged him to a public debate. You can hear portions of the debate here :

http://www.monergism.com/directory/link_category/MP3-Audio—Multimedia/All-North-American-Speakers-Messages/James-White/James-R-White-vs-Harold-Camping-Debate/

He not only refused to listen, he also continued to add strange doctrines to his teachings, chief among them is that the churches have ALL become apostate and it is useless to attend ANY of them at all.

It’s sad really as his radio station still airs some very good programs ( except his own teachings ). It is one of the very few stations in the country that still plays good old fashion traditional hymns as opposed to the Christian Contemporary Music we hear in a lot of stations.


33 posted on 10/23/2009 7:46:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (wH)
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To: SeekAndFind

Man I think he really has gone crazy. I listened to him in 1989-1991 and he was nothing like this. I actually learned stuff from him.


34 posted on 11/07/2009 3:25:28 PM PST by kaltrop
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To: DarthVader

harold campinbg is a senile old fool! i wouldnt beleive him if h said the sun came up in the morning peopel ahve nothing to do with him and do not supporet him


35 posted on 01/09/2010 10:23:38 PM PST by pklinge
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To: SeekAndFind

What you say is very true. Here is the confirmation for the scenario you stated very well. Paul to Titus Chpt. 3:8-11

8The saying is sure I desire that you insist on these things, so that those who have come to believe in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works; these things are excellent and profitable to everyone. 9But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10After a first and second admonition, have nothing more to do with anyone who causes divisions, 11 since you know that such a person is perverted and sinful, being self-condemned.


36 posted on 01/10/2010 9:56:05 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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I wonder what will become of his ministry when May 21,2011 ( the exact date he predicts Christ will return ) comes and goes away and nothing happens.

Will the true believers in his ministry still stay ?


37 posted on 01/10/2010 12:54:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I bet he will have a large falling away except for the weirdos and extremely deluded malcontents.


38 posted on 01/10/2010 2:45:56 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Also someone needs to share with old Howold II Peter 2 where St. Peter takes to task false teachers where old Howold is because he knows what the true gospel message is and has departed from the faith into cultism.


39 posted on 01/10/2010 2:50:05 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Iscool

I heard Harold again yesterday afternoon.

He’s convinced the Rapture will occur 21May, but this time he simply leaves off the year. In his mind everybody will only be thinking about death and misery after 21 May.

I think he is on the wrong track, but it would be interesting to see his take on verses such as nobody shall know the day or the hour.


40 posted on 04/17/2010 1:14:58 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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A false prophet Rev. Ike died today.

The Rev Ike is dead?

I didn't even know he was sick.

41 posted on 04/17/2010 3:21:00 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Ole Okie

Yes he did pass away. Here is the obit from last year:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/07/30/2009-07-30_luxuryloving_rev_ike_is_dead.html


42 posted on 04/18/2010 5:25:33 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Lee N. Field

Please don’t compare Amill nor Premill believers with the heretical views of such as Harold Camping and his company, which is more as the cults of the JWs and Mormonism while all 3 views of the end-times (Pre, Amill, and Post-Millennialism) are acceptable within the true beliefs of the Christian Church while heretics such as Camping are not. I happen to be an Amillennialist myself but am also a true believer in the Lord Jesus Christ whereas Harold Camping has gone off the “deep end” and doesn’t believe in anything or anybody other then himself. I used to be in a similar church that Harold started out in, the Christian Reformed Church, but they were about to kick him out of it when he left anyway (it’s really too bad that I heard that he took some 60 people with him when he left) and it’s been downhill for him since that time he left the church to start his own cultic group. It is kind of ironic that now he doesn’t believe in hell either because if he doesn’t repent and believe in the true gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, then he will most-likely end up there! But, anyway, please don’t confuse us true Reformed Christians (Calvinists) with this heretic because we really believe in the Scriptures as God’s Word while Harold may have started out that way (though this has always been kind of doubtful in my mind), he is best described by John in his first Epistle as one of the many antichrists in this world: “Therefore we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for it they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.” (1 John 2:19 ESV). In other words, Harold and his followers may have at one time been part of the Reformed Christian church, but he went out on his own and showed that in reality, he was and is one of the many antichrists in the world today. But don’t compare all Calvinistic Christians to him ever! Thanks.


43 posted on 10/19/2010 2:32:53 PM PDT by Amill Christian Believer
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Please don’t compare Amill nor Premill believers with the heretical views of such as Harold Camping and his company,

This thread's an oldie.

Backtrack. There is no such intent. Sane dispensationalist BibChr commented on my snide tagline ("Dispensationalists say the darndest things!"). My reply (and a clarifying personal email) indicated that I did not include him among the fringe loonies haunting InterWebz conspiracy webboards, poring over the Books of Enoch and Jasher, and seeing recrudescent nephelim under every bush.

If you examine my Freerepublic personal page and posting history you may find us more alike than not.

I used to be in a similar church that Harold started out in, the Christian Reformed Church,

I spent a decade and a half in the CRC, and remember it fondly. And, am distressed at what I hear is going on there now.

44 posted on 10/19/2010 4:03:01 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("What is your only comfort, in life and death?" "That I an not my own, but belong, body and soul...")
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To: Cvengr

Something tells me Camping doesn’t adhear to that particular verse in Christ’s Olivet Prophecy because then there would be no point in making dates because he’d know he was wrong.


45 posted on 12/08/2010 2:24:09 PM PST by thewrestlingfanatic
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To: Godzilla

That’s also wrong unless you were making a joke.


46 posted on 12/08/2010 6:58:11 PM PST by thewrestlingfanatic
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To: thewrestlingfanatic

I suppose that comment was wrong of me and i am not saying that Camping should die because that is un Christian but i think it would be a coincidince if that happend at 5/21/2011 not wishing death upon him.


47 posted on 12/08/2010 8:05:05 PM PST by thewrestlingfanatic
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To: thewrestlingfanatic

I have a greater chance of being right than Camping.


48 posted on 12/09/2010 7:27:16 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: SeekAndFind
I’m going to ask him to give me all his property 6 months before that date. After all, he won’t need them anymore since he’s so sure.

Periodically I will hear his rants because my portable Sirius radio must be tuned to the same FM channel as local Family Radio. I too, think he should make a pledge ...that if he is wrong, there will be no Family Radio as of May 22, 2011. A 70's Country Hits format would be a welcome change.

49 posted on 12/09/2010 7:41:13 AM PST by The Citizen Soldier (Obama: All turban, no camels.)
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To: The Citizen Soldier

By if you mean when he is wrong as what he is saying is completely against what the Bible Teaches.


50 posted on 12/09/2010 3:26:14 PM PST by thewrestlingfanatic
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