Posted on 08/02/2009 7:09:23 PM PDT by TaraP
Matthew 24:36a (NIV) "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
We cannot know the day or the hour for the Second Coming of Jesus following the Seven Year Tribulation Period, because Jesus stated that those days would be "cut short". The Word of God does not state that the Seven Year Tribulation will start late. The Seven Year Tribulation will begin precisely on time, but it will be "cut short".
Matthew 24:21-22 (NIV) For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
The Great Tribulation is "cut short", because if the Great Tribulation were not "cut short", then "no one would survive". The Great Tribulation is "cut short" because if the Great Tribulation were not "cut short", the Antichrist would destroy every single person on earth including himself.
The reason that no one except God the Father knows the day or the hour for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, is that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is determined by that precise point in time when if Jesus did not return, man would destroy all of mankind. The time for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ has not been set by God, that time is determined by man with man's freewill.
No one can predict exactly to the day and the hour when man with man's freewill is going to bring mankind to the precise moment of self-destruction. Only God the Father knows because He is Omniscient (He knows all).
We can however, know very closely when Jesus will return so that the exact day is not a surprise.
1 Thessalonians 5:4 (NIV) But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.
THE BEGINNING OF THE TRIBULATION PERIOD WILL PRECEDE THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST BY SEVEN YEARS!
We must subtract seven years from the ONE YEAR WINDOW of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ in order to calculate the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Tribulation period.
That would put the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Seven Year Tribulation Period from September 29, 2008 (Rosh Hashanah) until September 18, 2009 (Rosh Hashanah).
On September 29, 2008 (Rosh Hashanah), the FIRST DAY of the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Seven Year Tribulation Period, the stock market fell 777 points, clearly indicating a message from God to the Bride of Christ. I believe that God's message on September 29, 2008 was that the time until the beginning of the Tribulation is close, make certain that you are prepared. (In the Egyptian Tribulation, God attacked the Egyptian's gods. On September 29, 2008 in attacking the stock market, God attacked America's god of money.)
The seven year Tribulation Period began around June 28, 2009 because that was forty-two years from the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.
THE SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION PERIOD BEGAN ON THURSDAY, 9 JULY, 2009 - THE 17th OF TAMMUZ!
THE 17th OF TAMMUZ IS A HISTORIC DAY OF CALAMITY FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE!
1. It was on the 17th of Tammuz that Moses descended from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments and when he saw the Jewish people worshipping a golden calf, he broke the Ten Commandments.
2. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 585 B. C. that the priests from the first Temple stopped offering daily sacrifice because there was a shortage of sheep.
3. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 586 B. C. that Nebuchadnezzar broke through the walls of Jerusalem to conquer the city.
4. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 70 A. D. that the Roman army under Titus breeched the walls of Jerusalem.
5. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1239 A. D. that Pope Gregory IX ordered the confiscation of all of the manuscripts of the Talmud.
6. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1391 A. D. that 4,000 Jewish people were killed in Toledo and Jaen, Spain.
7. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1559 that the Jewish Quarter of Prague was destroyed.
8. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1944 that the Jewish people in the Kovno ghetto were sent to the death camps.
9. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1970 that Libya ordered the confiscation of all Jewish property.
The Seven Year Tribulation Period began with a "peace agreement" on July 9, 2009, which was the 17th of Tammuz on the Jewish calendar. The "peace agreement" will allow the Jewish people to rebuild their Temple in Jerusalem, in order for the Jewish people to re-establish the ritual of daily sacrifice in their attempt to atone for the Jewish people's sin. Information concerning the existence of that "peace agreement" has not been made available to the general public, as it is necessary for the Islamic governments to prepare the Islamic public for the fact that the Islamic people are going to share the Temple Mount in Jerusalem with the Jewish people; and the government of Israel must prepare the Jewish people to accept the concessions that the Israeli government made in order to facilitate the "peace agreement". There is also a delay while various politicians posture themselves prior to the public announcement of the "peace agreement" in order for the various politicians to claim a percentage of the credit for the "peace agreement". One of the politicians who is posturing himself in order to claim credit for the "peace agreement" is Barack Hussein Obama. We are in a very short time period before information concerning the "peace agreement" must be made available to the general public, as the Jewish Temple will be rebuilt and completed, and daily sacrifice will begin following sundown on March 15, 2010. The Jewish day begins at sundown, consequently sundown on March 15, 2010 is the beginning of the Jewish day of March 16, 2010. March 16, 2010 is the 1st of Nisan, the first day of the new Jewish sacred calendar year of 5770. The Jewish people will re-establish daily sacrifice in the new Jewish Temple on the first day of their new sacred year of 5770. March 16, 2010, the 1st of Nisan is also exactly 250 days after July 9, 2009, which was the 17th of Tammuz, the day on which the "peace agreement" was agreed to. The 17th of Tammuz has been a historic day of calamity for the Jewish people. July 9, 2009 was still another day of great calamity for the Jewish people, but the Jewish people will not recognize it as a day of great calamity until 1,260 days later on December 21, 2012.
The second order to rebuild Jerusalem occurred on June 28, 1967. The Jewish people declared themselves to be the State of Israel on May 14, 1948. However, Jerusalem was not completely in Israeli control until 1967. During the "Six Day War" of 1967, Israel captured the Old City of Jerusalem which included the Temple Mount. On June 7, 1967 Jerusalem came back under Jewish control for the first time in almost 1900 years. On June 28, 1967 the Knesset passed a "decree" annexing East Jerusalem, and thereby bringing the entire city of Jerusalem back into Jewish control.
On September 17, 1978, Menachem Begin, Prime Minister of Israel put forth in a letter to United States President Jimmy Carter, the date of 28 June 1967 as the date that the Israeli Knesset passed legislation that empowered the Knesset to control Jerusalem.
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The President Camp David Thurmont, Maryland 17 September 1978
Dear Mr. President:
I have the honor to inform you, Mr. President, that on 28 June 1967 - Israel's parliament (The Knesset) promulgated and adopted a law to the effect: "the Government is empowered by a decree to apply the law, the jurisdiction and administration of the State to any part of Eretz Israel (Land of Israel - Palestine), as stated in that decree."
On the basis of this law, the government of Israel decreed in July 1967 that Jerusalem is one city indivisible, the capital of the State of Israel.
Sincerely, Menachem Begin
Amen.
ROFL
Jesus will use the door, not the window.
Thanks.
That has to be the post of the day.
Well, it sure does help with retirement planning!
“Behold, I stand at the window and tap...”
I must save and print this to put it with my books of prophecies. I will pull it out for all to see on the day after it’s expiration date, providing I’m still here.
I have articles of Christ’s return in 1983, 1988, 2000, plus various return prophecies that didn’t make the headlines.
***Although I believe that our Lord is going to return, I will wager $100 in US funds that Christ will not return during that period of time. Any takers?****
I would be willing to offer, not take such a bet however the $100.00 offered probably will only buy a first class postage stamp at that time.
Besides, I will probably be Soylent Green at that time if Obamacare passes.
Make it US$1000, then. Still want a piece of that action?
You said — I will pull it out for all to see on the day after it’s expiration date, providing I’m still here.
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See post #98... you don’t have to wait for that determination... LOL...
First of all, we’ve got an “agreement” signed that absolutely no one knows about, except this guy... I mean, it’s not announced in the papers, no in Israel, the Palestinian Authority obviously don’t know about it, and I would say that Obama doesn’t know about it either, or else he would be trumpeting the success of this in the Middle East since he’s been President.
Next, there’s a Temple that he says will be up and running and offering sacrifices in just about 7 months from now and he’s already said it will take about 7 or 8 months to build it in the first place. So, I was wondering how come no one can see the construction going on right now... :-)
No need to wait on this one — everyone can see how it’s ludicrous on the face of it, right at the “get-go”...
Well, I’ll take you up on that $1,000... :-)
Note that this is what the guy said ...
THE BEGINNING OF THE TRIBULATION PERIOD WILL PRECEDE THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST BY SEVEN YEARS!
We must subtract seven years from the ONE YEAR WINDOW of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ in order to calculate the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Tribulation period.
That would put the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Seven Year Tribulation Period from September 29, 2008 (Rosh Hashanah) until September 18, 2009 (Rosh Hashanah).
On September 29, 2008 (Rosh Hashanah), the FIRST DAY of the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Seven Year Tribulation Period, the stock market fell 777 points, clearly indicating a message from God to the Bride of Christ. I believe that God’s message on September 29, 2008 was that the time until the beginning of the Tribulation is close, make certain that you are prepared. (In the Egyptian Tribulation, God attacked the Egyptian’s gods. On September 29, 2008 in attacking the stock market, God attacked America’s god of money.)
The seven year Tribulation Period began around June 28, 2009 because that was forty-two years from the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.
THE SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION PERIOD BEGAN ON THURSDAY, 9 JULY, 2009 - THE 17th OF TAMMUZ!
I’m presuming that he’s counting off from that date to the coming of Christ sever years later...
Also he said ...
We are in a very short time period before information concerning the “peace agreement” must be made available to the general public, as the Jewish Temple will be rebuilt and completed, and daily sacrifice will begin following sundown on March 15, 2010. The Jewish day begins at sundown, consequently sundown on March 15, 2010 is the beginning of the Jewish day of March 16, 2010. March 16, 2010 is the 1st of Nisan, the first day of the new Jewish sacred calendar year of 5770. The Jewish people will re-establish daily sacrifice in the new Jewish Temple on the first day of their new sacred year of 5770. March 16, 2010, the 1st of Nisan is also exactly 250 days after July 9, 2009, which was the 17th of Tammuz, the day on which the “peace agreement” was agreed to.
Now, correct me if I’m wrong here... but if that Temple isn’t built and offering sacrifices following sundown on March 15, 2010, the I’m presuming that everything he said is wrong...
And I would say that one can tell if the rest of right nor not, by the date of March 16, 2010...
Would that be right and sufficient for that $1,000 bet? If so, or if you want to explain and/or ask a bit more... then do so... because I’m “on” for this bet... LOL...
***Now, correct me if I’m wrong here... but if that Temple isn’t built and offering sacrifices following sundown on March 15, 2010, the I’m presuming that everything he said is wrong...***
Maybe they are secretly building an old fashion “tabernacle” type tent as God ordered Moses to build.;-)
Microsoft RULEZ.
Fall or winter (in the northern hemisphere).
Sorry, Tara, but this is just silliness -- precisely the sort of thing St. Paul warned Timothy against:
As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at Ephesus so that you may charge certain persons not to teach any different doctrine, nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith. The aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. (1 Tim. 1:3-5)
As a great Man once said, do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
Forget that useless speculation -- it's just a dressed-up version of the old bumpersticker, "Jesus is coming -- look busy!"
TERMS
I, _____________________ (my legal name) agree to pay _________________ (your legal name) the amount of one thousand dollars (USD1000) in United States funds, payable upon demand, if
JESUS CHRIST PHYSICALLY RETURNS TO EARTH BETWEEN 0001 HOURS JERUSALEM TIME SEPTEMBER 29, 2015 AND 0001 HOURS JERUSALEM TIME APRIL 9, 2016
Otherwise, you agree to pay me the same amount upon demand at any time after 0001 hours Jerusalem time 9 April 2016.
“Jerusalem time” is defined as UTC+2
DATE _________________________________
SIGNATURE _________________________
SIGNATURE _________________________
MAILING ADDRESS_________________________________________
Thank you for your custom.
*******
Print this out, fill in relevant blanks, sign it, and mail it to me (snailmail address available by Freepmailing me). I’ll fill out my part, sign and date it, mail you a copy, and give my attorney the original to keep on file. I look forward to taking your money.
I think you misunderstood my post... I’m betting *against* that... LOL...
This is beyond stupid....biblically stupid.
We use a stock market fall to determine the beginning of the Great Tribulation.
Prove that point from the bible.....(this is so stupid.)
... as I AM your witness!
Shucks folks. I’m waiting for Jesus to return
on The Feast of the Tabernacle. Don’t know the
day or the hour, or even the year. But it is
the only feast day in the Bible where Jesus did
not either perform a miracle or serve as a mark
of fulfilled prophecy.
I AM just sayin’...
Of course, I hope you do know that I’m talking about *not* being able to say when this will happen, as that was the bet I was making (I think I may not have come off as clear as I should have on that one... :-) ...)...
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