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Call to Apostasy
Rochester Catholic ^ | Thursday, August 20, 2009 | Eugene Michae

Posted on 08/20/2009 7:45:09 PM PDT by narses

The new executive director of Call to Action is Jim FitzGerald, formerly of Planned Parenthood. Here are some selected excerpts about him from an article in the National Catholic Reporter:

“What’s missing in our church is the freedom to talk without fear about issues like abortion or gay marriage or stem cell research.

“That’s what I love about Call to Action: Everyone’s at the table,” he says, quoting the theme for Call to Action’s November conference. “It’s easy to be in conversation with people who think like you. But if we only do that, we miss out on something that could be very positive for Catholicism.”

…Call to Action staff and board members say they hope FitzGerald’s history and views will help spark respectful conversation within the organization — as is starting to happen around the country — on the issue of abortion.

“If people of goodwill are willing to listen, it will help us all understand that there is no simple answer to this issue,” said Call to Action board member Tom Honoré, who served on the search committee for the position.

Honoré said FitzGerald “respects life as much as any of us,” though the new director’s views are solidly pro-choice.

FitzGerald eschews labels, but thinks abortion should be legal and doesn’t believe life begins at conception. “This issue is extremely complex,” he said. “I honor the person who follows their conscience on it.”

He (FitzGerald) doesn’t see any problem with being Catholic and working for Planned Parenthood.

“No organization — Catholic or otherwise — has done more to prevent abortion than Planned Parenthood,” he (FitzGerald) said, citing its comprehensive sex education services as well as access to affordable birth control.

I wonder how long it will be before Mr. FitzGerald is invited to Rochester to speak at St. Bernard’s? They better hurry-the window of opportunity closes in less than 3 years.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: bishops; catholic; heretics; plannedparenthood; proaborts; religiousleft; sin; usccb

1 posted on 08/20/2009 7:45:09 PM PDT by narses
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

2 posted on 08/20/2009 7:45:36 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: narses
“...there is no simple answer to this issue”

Yes, there is: Thou shalt NOT kill.

3 posted on 08/20/2009 7:49:19 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: narses

The last I checked, those subjects were discussed at great length by people in the Roman Catholic faith. It is the “old line” protestants, along with the “feel good don’t rock any boats” middle-class churches, that don’t discuss these issues. Certainly I would not expect to hear anything about these issues in a sermon.


4 posted on 08/20/2009 7:49:56 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: steve86

“Yes, there is: Thou shalt NOT kill.”

Actually, I think the proper translation is, “Thou shalt not commit murder.” Lots of killing went on after these laws were giving.


5 posted on 08/20/2009 7:51:12 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: narses
“No organization — Catholic or otherwise — has done more to prevent abortion than Planned Parenthood,”

Um, yeah. And no organization has done more to prevent hamburgers than McDonald's.
6 posted on 08/20/2009 7:53:04 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment
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To: TWohlford

Thou shalt not unjustifiably end the life of innocents.


7 posted on 08/20/2009 7:53:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

“Thou shalt not unjustifiably end the life of innocents.”

Interesting... intriguing... where did that translation come from?


8 posted on 08/20/2009 7:54:28 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: TWohlford

Should have been “lives” to keep the number consistent but that is how I have always interpreted the commandment.


9 posted on 08/20/2009 7:57:02 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: narses
doesn't believe life begins at conception Well where does it start? Conception by it very definition a start. Cells start multiplying and growth begins. Faith may be belief on things unseen but conception is quite visual.
10 posted on 08/20/2009 7:59:21 PM PDT by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: oyez

“doesn’t believe life begins at conception Well where does it start?”

It begins when the last kid moves out and the dog dies.


11 posted on 08/20/2009 8:01:42 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: TWohlford
Also true. In our case the dog is still living. Pretty good dog, though. Listens a lot better than the kids did and he's pretty sure he doesn’t know everything..
12 posted on 08/20/2009 8:08:08 PM PDT by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: oyez

“In our case the dog is still living.”

Worse yet, we picked up a second dog as a rescue thing. And then my daughter dumped off her cats (”grand cats?”) when she got stationed in Japan (USAF).

Then the last kid moved back in...


13 posted on 08/20/2009 8:12:03 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: TWohlford

That’s pretty funny even though this thread is depressing. Our old kitty is still with us (the kids have left) and my neighbor harasses me daily to bring him in the house. :) I’m sorry, but people live indoors, animals do not. At least not here.


14 posted on 08/20/2009 8:13:03 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: SaintDismas

“I’m sorry, but people live indoors, animals do not.”

If I check into a 4-star hotel, and eat at top-rated restaraunts, I’m not spoiled as much as the animals in, and outside, of our house.

Damned raccoons are doing well too.


15 posted on 08/20/2009 8:16:03 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: narses

Obama can’t comment. It’s above his pay grade.


16 posted on 08/20/2009 8:18:32 PM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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To: TWohlford
Then the last kid moved back in...with her husband. That happened here. Wasn't so bad. The hubby didn't mind helping out and was an excellent cook.
17 posted on 08/20/2009 8:21:19 PM PDT by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: narses
From Our Lady's Warriors -- Dissent section

A Call to Action

The most visible dissenting group which is a movement of laity and religious seeking to reform the "sinful structure" of the "patriarchal" Church. One could call them the "mother of all dissenting groups" - feminist pun intended. CTA is infamous since its 1994 conference coverage on the CBS news program 60 Minutes. CTA promotes dissent against Church teachings on a broad front, including women's ordination, homosexuality, creation spirituality, married priesthood, and liturgical reforms, while incorporating new age and Wiccan spirituality. Bishop Bruskewitz excommunicated those that belong to this group in his Diocese. Many members belong to local  groups called "small faith communities." Renew 2000 also promotes small faith communities. Membership draws heavily from former clergy, feminist nuns, and homosexuals. Members staff COR. CTA serves on the national task force for the We Are Church referendum. Get a more complete understanding of their position from their own information. For a list of their speakers at the 2004 conference, click here.

 

Documents Revealing the Truth about Call to Action

Description

Author

Comments

Call to Action 1998 Conference Detailed Agenda

Bruce Sabalaskey

Learn for yourself the truth regarding a Call to Action's orientation from their own information.

Inside Call To Action

Mary Jo Anderson

For an Orthodox Catholic taking a firsthand look at this subculture that threatens to form an "American Catholic Church," the open, aggressive rebellion unleashed in session after session is sobering. (off-site)

The Underground Call to Action

Stephanie Block

If internal heresy were likened to a disease, how might one imagine its progressive assault against the Body of Christ? The errors embed themselves within the members of diocesan staff and in parish leadership, from that point they spread through polluted catechesis, workshops, and homilies. ... The Call to Action (CTA) movement is just such a syndrome of internal heresies. (off-site)

The Contrast of Call To Action vs. Church Teaching

Wanderer Forum Foundation

Compares CTA thoughts to Catholic teaching. (off-site)

 


18 posted on 08/20/2009 8:23:46 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: narses
The new executive director of Call to Action is Jim FitzGerald, formerly of Planned Parenthood....He (FitzGerald) doesn’t see any problem with being Catholic and working for Planned Parenthood. “No organization — Catholic or otherwise — has done more to prevent abortion than Planned Parenthood,” he (FitzGerald) said, citing its comprehensive sex education services as well as access to affordable birth control.

Until the bishops get around to denying him the Eucharist, he's all yours.

19 posted on 08/20/2009 8:26:08 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone, betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need...)
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To: narses

When people say that want to talk about these issues, what they really mean is that they don’t like the fact that the Bible and the Church have already spoken on these issues. They want to talk about about them, but they don’t want to hear the answers. They are merely talking to themselves.


20 posted on 08/20/2009 8:35:20 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Nosterrex; narses
They are merely talking to themselves.

And talking FOR someone else...I'll give ya a hint...father of lies, murderer from the beginning, name begins with an S.

21 posted on 08/20/2009 9:10:08 PM PDT by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: TWohlford

“Thou shalt NOT kill” is the perfect Hebrews translation in the KJV perfectly preserved Bible...400 years of absolute perfect translation by translators who’s knowledge could provide 30 individual reasons for each of their perfect ‘word’ translations. Those men were experts in Hebrews and the TARGET language - English. Today’s pseudo scholars who translate only try to standardize all occurrences of a Bible word; neither do they have such expertise in the TARGET language; nor can those scholars provide even 2 reasons (never 30 reasons) for their translation word choice; this is not the case with the KJV translators who often ‘corrected’ bible translator’s of their day (16th century). “You shall not murder” is a poor translation and even a weaker argument to say that ‘lots of killing went on after these laws were giving (sic - given)’.


22 posted on 08/20/2009 9:28:32 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: narses
He ain't any sort of practicing or acceptable Catholic!
23 posted on 08/21/2009 5:08:01 AM PDT by AKA Elena (St Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle -- and this is war!)
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Heretics-R-Us

24 posted on 08/21/2009 6:04:42 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: bibletruth
the KJV perfectly preserved Bible

That's an oxymoron. The heavily abridged, edited version of Scripture known as the KJV is a lot of things, perfect isn't one of them.

25 posted on 08/21/2009 6:06:59 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: narses
“What’s missing in our church is the freedom to talk without fear about issues like abortion or gay marriage or stem cell research.

“That’s what I love about Call to Action: Everyone’s at the table,” he says, quoting the theme for Call to Action’s November conference. “It’s easy to be in conversation with people who think like you. But if we only do that, we miss out on something that could be very positive for Catholicism.”

How about fornication, Slavery, incest, racism, rape, theft, etc? Can we talk about those?

26 posted on 08/21/2009 9:08:50 AM PDT by conservonator (spill czeck is knot my friend)
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To: conservonator

Don’t forget cannibalism and satanism, also topics that just don’t get enough healthy debate. Ah, smell the positive inclusion!!

Freegards


27 posted on 08/21/2009 9:17:35 AM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: narses

The Catholic Church is NOT a club. You don’t join then try to change the rules.


28 posted on 08/21/2009 5:48:44 PM PDT by kitkat
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