Skip to comments.Cardinal O'Malley Defends Role at Kennedy Rites
Posted on 09/03/2009 6:57:00 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
Cardinal OMalley issued a forceful defense of his decision to participate in the funeral of Senator Kennedy; revealed the substance of a conversation he had with President Obama: Catholic bishops are anxious to support a plan for universal health care, but we will not support a plan that will include a provision for abortion or could open the way to abortions in the future.
But the most impassioned part of the cardinals blog post is a de facto plea for greater civility among Catholics when discussing divisive issues. He warned against harsh judgments and attributing the worst motives to people with whom Catholics have disagreements, saying these attitudes and practices do irreparable damage to the communion of the Church.
OMalley said he regretted Kennedys support for abortion rights. But As archbishop of Boston, I considered it appropriate to represent the church at this liturgy out of respect for the senator, his family, those who attended the Mass and all those who were praying for the senator and his family at this difficult time. We are people of faith and we believe in a loving and forgiving God from whom we seek mercy.
Raymond Arroyo at EWTN wrote: The prayer intercessions, endless eulogies, image of the cardinal reading prayers, and finally Cardinal McCarrick interring the remains sent an uncontested message: One may defy church teaching, publicly lead others astray, deprive innocent lives of their rights, and still be seen a good Catholic, even an exemplary one.
Also praise. Rev. James Martin, associate editor at America magazine, wrote, Cardinal OMalleys decision to attend the funeral is large-hearted, compassionate, pastoral, sensitive and, above all, Christian.
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Arroyo has it exactly right.
Moreover, it is the responsibility of the Cardinal, at least through his Archdiocesan liturgy office, to give the final approval of the texts which MAY be written or adapted, and to remind the priest celebrant (a Jesuit and former president of BC) that he has NO authorization to editorialize endlessly and remove all masculine references to God from the official texts.
Might also help if he said Mass often enough to remember "Let us proclai the mystery of faith" and that it was JESUS and not God the Father who taught us the Our Father. GEEEESH. I thought the SJs went to school for years for this stuff?
Finally, God forbid that we judge, not others, but OTHERS' POSITIONS on controverted issues, about which, when pronounced upon by the Church, do not - contrary to DOCTOR Obama's proclamation at Notre Dame to the cheers of thousands of stupid Catholic students, clergy and faculty - "admit of doubt."
I wonder how much "civility" Barack Obama would have demonstrated during the slavery debates of the Civil War era, or how much "common ground" he would have been willing to seek during the Civil Rights' struggle? Aren't babies in the womb just as really human beings with rights as were the slaves?
Come to think of it, did the Church in this country, North and South, cover itself with glory during the slavery debates? What will future generations say about us on issues of life - and death?
Truth and sound doctrine exchanged for thirty pieces of silver...
Cardinal O'Malley, I'm sorry to have to remind you that on the day of judgment there will be only one voice heard. That voice will speak His ineffable truth and we're all going to need special help to get through it. We'll learn firsthand how our 'tolerance' and 'civility' has flown in the face of God's expressed Word to man.
If any cause is motivated by judgment, anger or vindictiveness, he added, it will be doomed to marginalization and failure.
No judgement means total tolerance......we are being taught to tolerate the intolerable by our Catholic leaders. We’ve been warned about this in Revelations!
The Catholic Church looks to go the way of the dinosaur...
Perhaps O’Malley should be present at garbage cans behind abortion clinics to perform last rights for dead babies.
I thought the mass was very nice, with the exception of the petitions read by the children. That was a political ad.
Other than that, I was OK with most of it.
Politically, really, O’Malley had to be there.
So well said!
to the Cardinal... yada, yada, yada, Yawnnnnnnnnnnn
O’Malley exchanged truth for a lie by being there “politically”
I would like the Archbishop to tell us why his attendance at the funeral was not SCANDALOUS.
“Politically, really, OMalley had to be there.”
No, he didn’t. He chose to be there.
catholic bishops really need to keep their noses out of this healthcare debate.
It is not a christian virtue to “redistribute” money from one group to give to another. Some might call that stealing.
It is also not a chrisitan virtue to ration healthcare.
For a bunch of folks who claim to care about the poor, the disabled, the unborn, and the elderly - they certainly wind up on the wrong side too often!
(yes - I’m a catholic)
I agree. Their chosen stance is completely unbiblical.
The one Catholic who played a memorable role in the pre-Civil War debates over slavery was Roger Taney, Chief Justice of the United States, in the Dred Scott decision.
I don't think the Catholic hierarchy spoke out against slavery, but it isn't a matter that I have done any research on.
People who are offended by masculine references to God should support a return to the use of Latin--the references would still be masculine but they wouldn't know what was being said so it wouldn't offend them.
Cardinals, by definition, are political - especially in an archdiocese like Boston.
He’s campaigning to remain a popular cardinal. As long as he lives, that will never end.
Gee Cardinal, thanks for letting everyone know that baby butchery isn’t really that big a deal for you when it comes right down to it. Also thanks for enforcing that way of thinking amongst Catholics everywhere. Keep on trying to teach what the Church believes without ever using discipline to show you mean what you say, you seem to like the results of such efforts.
T.Man: I always thought this Arroyo guy was a stiff, he seemed like a bad used car salesman. I was wrong, he nails it. The lack of discipline from the church as concerns the issue of baby butchery is a scandal that will be looked back at as dwarfing the homosexualist priest scandal.
His mission in life is not to be popular but do the right thing which is unpopular. Strip off his fancy robes and he’s a ‘nothing’ but a PC politician. He stands for nothing biblical and everything secular.
I was just curious, How many people on this thread think they are better, more righteous, than Ted Kennedy?
Apparently, you haven’t had much experience with bishops, archbishops and cardinals.
Remember this is Boston. And in Boston, everything is political.
Not me. I’m just a sinner trying to find my way through this life, and get to heaven by the Grace of God.
I see the Communist propaganda is alive and well.
You mean you are a beggar for grace? Sort of in God’s soup kitchen?
How many Catholics on this thread think they should be complicit in another's (O'Malley) sins ?
I totally agree but there is no follow-up. They come out against it but condone it - Notre Dame, Georgetown, O’Malley.
Nine ways of being an accessory to anothers sin.
5.By Defense of Evil Done
So the role of the church should be moral policemen for unbelievers?
Notice that no one has reported Ted receiving the sacraments before death, or reconciling with the church, unless one counts those mealy-mouthed and defensive "letters" as penance. The Cardinal is typical of many Catholic "Thinkers" (Like Bill O'Reilly, Tim Russert, even Chrissie) who see the Democrat Party as the embodiment of Christian Social Justice, which for them is Christian Socialism as practiced in Europe and which is what led to the EU. They combine this with fervent admiration of Dorothy Day and the Catholic Worker Party.
This is 19th C thought. IOW, "Let's make all of those attractive communist social reforms for society, but with Christianity as the key, not the atheism of the real communists. That way, we'll keep those nasty real communist killers out of here and build a perfect society for Jesus! KOOMBAYAH" The real commies think they are fools ... and they have a point.
Mercy and Justice are not mutually exclusive. God is merciful AND just.
We can and should pray for Ted Kennedy's immortal soul. I pray to God he will be merciful. I don't want anyone to go to Hell but that is a reality for some. Hell is real and you can end up there.
We should not canonize notorious sinners nor afford them public spectacles. It scandalizes the Church, weakens believers faith among other things. That is not just nor merciful.
That's absolutely untrue, and is a lie invented by the East German secret police and the KGB.
I didn't read the word "mercy" in any of his public pronouncements. Maybe I missed it. If he wanted to use the Kennedy funeral as a "teaching moment" he could have recounted the reasons for mercy and urge prayers for the repose of his soul. Instead we see attribution to what was a scandalous life by the eulogies presented in Kennedy's send-off.
Your one-liner questions are becoming a little tiring. Do you have a point to make?
Very, very well stated!
Certainly not I who posted the story, nor any Catholic with even minimal catechetical formation (yes, THAT’s another whole problem nowadays).
As I said in my opening comment:
With or without a Cardinal present, the issue is NOT the Funeral Mass, as long as it is celebrated ACCORDING TO THE PRESCRIBED NORMS:
the Catholic funeral, unlike Protestant “memorial services,” is not a celebration of the life of the deceased,
but the celebration of Christ’s sacrificial death upon the Cross, once and for all for the sins of the world, and the application of His infinite redemptive grace to the departed soul for the forgiveness of that person’s sins.
That is Catholic teaching (disputed at the “Reformation” and denied by those who departed from the unity of the Church at that point and still).
When the ACTUAL TEXTS are prayed, that is what they say.
The principal problem with the Kennedy funeral Mass was the Jesuit celebrant’s constant editorializing, mutation (mutilation) of texts, and ad-libbing in PRAISE of, not PRAYER for, the deceased, and the interpolation of non-authorized texts as well as the composition of original texts that were simply DNC talking points (and the shameful use of children to proclaim them, another whole issue).
The Cardinal’s problem, and really indefensible, is neither his charity nor his compassion but his negligence in seeing to it that Senator Kennedy got nothing less, but surely nothing MORE than any Catholic ought to receive at the time of death: the Church’s prayer (not Father Monan SJ’s or the DNC’s prayer) for forgiveness and peace.
As Boston talk show host and Herald columnist Howie Carr says regarding immigration: “I don’t ask for special treatment: I just want to be treated like any other illegal immigrant.” Catholics could now start asking for “no special treatment, Your Eminence: just treat me like any other Kennedy!”
Don’t forget the granting of an annulment after so many years of marriage and three kids...as well as his well documented abuse of women...
“Hypocrisy breeds atheism...” John Paul II
Your Eminence, it's almost to the point now that nobody cares whether you support or oppose particular issues. Non-Catholics are certainly not going to be swayed by your opinions and by the way "Catholics" voted in the last election, neither are members of your flock (assuming they even know your opinions), now largely dispersed and lost.
He warned against harsh judgments and attributing the worst motives to people with whom Catholics have disagreements, saying these attitudes and practices do irreparable damage to the communion of the Church.
Wow! You mean when a Catholic university bestows an honorary degree on a vocal advocate of abortion, some Catholics actually get angry?? What a shocker!
You mean to say that when prominent politicians who self-identify as "Catholics" tirelessly promote the cause of abortion and do everything in their power to undermine the position of the Church, with no public sanction or rebuke from their pastors, some Catholics get fed up??!! Amazing!
These are not just "disagreements", Your Eminence. This is a matter of life and death! Unborn children are being slaughtered by the millions and you're waffling about "disagreements"? Catholics are sick of this "business as usual" attitude from the Church hierarchy.
Our ability to change peoples hearts and help them to grasp the dignity of each and every life, from the first moment of conception to the last moment of natural death, is directly related to our ability to increase love and unity in the church, for our proclamation of the truth is hindered when we are divided and fighting with each other, he wrote.
It's called defending the faith. The only reason we are "divided and fighting with each other" is because there is a significant cohort of Catholics, of whom Kennedy was the ringleader, who are spending every waking moment attacking the Church and undermining its fight for the unborn. That is why we are fighting. The Church is under attack. I'll be "civil" to the lost who seek help, to men of good will, the genuinely searching and even those of other faiths who attack the Church because they've been fed untruths and brought up on anti-Catholic propaganda. I won't be "civil" to those who seek to destroy the Church from within!
How's the touchy-feely approach going anyway, your Eminence? Any sign that Pelosi is about to recant? Any sign that Biden has got the message? Any sign that 40 years of detente with the world has opened the eyes of abortionists? Any sign that the "spirit of Vatican II" has touched the hearts of the abotionists, the CINOs and the gay marriage crowd?
When you get a moment free from closing parishes and straightening out clergy abuse cases, give some thought to how our forefathers died and were martyred in defense of the faith.
Part of the role of the Church is to be a Moral Compass to the world, yes. Look at the compass for direction or don't. It's your choice. Free will.
I’ll challenge Ted’s approach to living and doing the right thing and following my Church’s teachings any day of the week.....
I am truly tired of the “American” Catholic Church.