Posted on 09/16/2009 4:17:40 PM PDT by NYer
The Washington Post the other day posted a lengthy interview with Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services, and Catholic. A pertinent excerpt:
MS. ROMANO: You are also a pro-choice Catholic, and I was reading some stories out of your home state recently where one of the bishops took an action. Can you tell us a little bit about that?There's more, and video, at the link.
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: Well, the Archbishop in the Kansas City area did not approve of my conduct as a public official and asked that I not present myself for communion.
MS. ROMANO: What did you think about that?
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: Well, it was one of the most painful things I have ever experienced in my life, and I am a firm believer in the separation of church and state, and I feel that my actions as a parishioner are different than my actions as a public official and that the people who elected me in Kansas had a right to expect me to uphold their rights and their beliefs even if they did not have the same religious beliefs that I had. And that's what I did: I took an oath of office and I have taken an oath of office in this job and will uphold the law.
MS. ROMANO: Do you continue to take communion?
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: I really would prefer not to discuss with you. That's really a personal--thank you.
Ping!
Where’s that picture of the smallest violin in the world playing Hearts and Flowers (thumb and forefinger rubbing together)?
Sure, a pro-choice Catholic that says she does it to serve the citizens. Hmmm...
Ironic isn't it that an oath she swore to God to uphold, to her, supersedes Gods law....
As she orders millions of people into gas chambers she will say that her actions as a government official are separate from her private civilian life.
right.
Leftists do NOT believe that, by the way. EVERYTHING is political to a leftist. literally everything.
Says it all...not only for her, but for our "Christian" President Obortion as well.
Obviously Mrs. Sebelius’s trumps serving the state over serving the Lord!
Somehow I don't think that kind of answer is going to fly when you come face to face with your Creator.
Kathy Sebelius -— just another “cafeteria Catholic”.
Tick...tick...tick
Well, darlin’ how do you think the baby feels when he’s murdered in his mother’s womb.
Look, she's an embarrassment to the whole country ~ this argument that the separation of church and state requires that she kill babies is the most ridiculous thing I've ever herd.
Now they've said that PA Senator's elevator doesn't go all the way to the top, this ol'gal doesn't have seals to keep her brains from leaking.
She feels pain because she can't take part in communion, but I didn't hear her say that the thought of abortion causes her pain.
You can't honestly seperate your core values from your actions, at least I don't see how.
A cafeteria Catholic.
The very same analogy popped into my mind the minute I read her statement.
Mark 8:36...."What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul?"
IMHO, any one that claims to be a Christian and is pro-choice/for abortion is not a Christian.
Was it part of her oath to the people to take MONEY from
George R. Tiller, the nation’s most prominent provider of controversial late-term abortions.
Perhaps she could use that cash to bribe a priest to give her communion!
Why would it be “personal” if if the issue whether or not she takes her Church teaching seriously?
Where is the St (Sir) Thomas More in her? “The King’s good servant, but God’s first.”
Hey Kathy....it’s going to be even more painful in eternity if you don’t change.
You don’t know what pain is, Sec. Sebelius.
She swore an oath to serve Satan from Monday to Saturday, and plays make-believe Catholic on Sunday for two hours. Geesh.
You can, however, choose to step down from a position that would make you betray your conscience or morals.......
Bell, book and candle for her.
Heck, exclusion from the sacrament of communion is the least of her worries if she doesn’t find herself in accord with God’s laws.
Sebelius thinks being denied communion is painful? The pain will be worse than she can imagine if she dies unrepentant and unsaved.
Exactly, cranked.
Conservative women look happy, satisfied with life, and attractive. Then there are liberal women...
Her argument is a copout and just doesn't hold water.
This woman is talking legalism...What's legal in the Church as opposed to what's legal in the State...
But what's in your heart lady??? How can you have Jesus in your heart and condone killing babies at the same time???
One would think that Catholics would eventually admit that being Catholic does NOT automatically mean you are a member of the Body of Jesus Christ...
Apparently the Church thinks differently.
I think they were fond of saying things like this in Hitler's Germany.
How true. I have been watching her for a while now and it is apparent that she is mentally anguished... She needs God and to devote time in prayer, meditation and contemplation to the Blessed Virgin Mary. But that's just my opinion. :-)
**Sure, a pro-choice Catholic that says she does it to serve the citizens. Hmmm...**
Yes, what about her serving God first?
Makes me wonder if she has had an abortion???
A CINO.
Notice she refuses to answer the question of whether she continues to receive Communion. If she does, it’s sacrilege. Better go to Confession, Kathy!
“One would think that Catholics would eventually admit that being Catholic does NOT automatically mean you are a member of the Body of Jesus Christ...”
Good grief. Is there any single thing that you have right about the Catholic Church? Right now I can’t remember your ever having uttered a true thing on the subject.
Good point!
Then make it easy, correct me on the issue...What is the position of the Catholic religion???
Have you seen the latest video of Carter and Rosalyn?
Lord, have mercy, she looks completely out of it, and her face is so pinched it must hurt.
Between Rosalyn Carter and Michelle Obama, I see more anger than any other two people could possibly generate.
You always have the choice of repenting, Kathleen. That only hurts for a minute, and then you feel so much better!
If she thinks the sit down with the bishop was painful, imagine the anguish of a Particular Judgement. I wouldn’t want to be trying to justify the blood of unborn innocents upon my death.
You mean like the folks that are “saved” on Sunday and do what they please Monday to Saturday. You have faker-foolers in all branches of Christianity.
First of all, it's not a matter of "being Catholic," it's being baptized. If you're baptized validly, you've been made a member of the Body even as a heretic.
Second of all, we don't go in for any of this nonsense that people are ensured salvation at some point when they become a member of the Body. As Christ said, the tares grow with the wheat in the Kingdom of Heaven--and no man can tell them apart until the former are brought out to be burned.
MS. ROMANO: You are also a pro-choice Catholic, and I was reading some stories out of your home state recently where one of the bishops took an action. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
SECRETARY SEBELIUS: Well, the Archbishop in the Kansas City area did not approve of my conduct as a public official and asked that I not present myself for communion.
This isn't true, She all but admits being pro-abortion, and the Archbishop should make it clear that her belief bars her from Communion.
From this source:
Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius should stop taking Communion until she repudiates her support for the “serious moral evil” of abortion, the Catholic archbishop for northeast Kansas says.
It has nothing to do with her actions, it is her personal belief she must repudiate.
No, I didn’t. I saw a picture. Both of them belong in a home, LOL.
Isn’t there an oath attached to confirmation, too?
Kathleen - I’m not really a Catholic - Sebelius conveniently has no memory of that fact, it appears.
We all need Jesus. They seem to want to avoid Him. He doesn’t fit in with their plans.
Her oath to the State supercedes her oath to God. That says it all.
What's so staggering about it? Do you not study Christian history?
You just have a classically Protestant nonsacramental view of Baptism. To you the Sacrament is meaningless...just some water and words. To us, it's a true Sacrament which brings about what it symbolizes: we are born again of water AND the Spirit. Remember circuitry logic? AND. Not OR, not NOR, not NAND, but AND.
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