Does God Expect Me to Stay Married to a Jerk?

Christian Post ^ | 9/22/2009 | S. Michael Craven

[bvw]

Selfishness is a tool, pride is tool. Like a gun. You wnat to outlaw guns because they can be misused?

Money is a great tool.

[bvw]

We all see a number of grand scale “sin” based on unselfishness in progress. Socialism. Marxism. Wife swapping, public tolerance and even celebration of immorality.

In all of these the desire is to be “unselfish”.

[ShadowAce]

Again—give me an example of a sin not based on selfishness or pride.

[kalee]

Same here.

[ShadowAce]

Wrong. Socialism is pushed by those who want to be in charge and get all the perks. Wife swapping is nothing more than lust after someone else.

Tolerance? of others' sins? Are you serious?

Celebration of immorality is merely the celebration that they won't be alone in their sin. They want company.

It's all about pride and selfishness.

[stuartcr]

Thanks

[stuartcr]

Quite true.

[stuartcr]

OK

[calex59]

I believe no one should get married. People change over the course of a lifetime and you will not be married to the same person you married 10 years before. Anybody doubt that look at your spouse now vs when you got married.

People change but it is not the physical change that should bother you, it is the changes inside a person. Sometimes one person doesn't grow and the other does. This is always makes for a bad marriage but it doesn't have to be that way. Choose wisely and she/he will grow along with you and the marriage will be a good one. However, in your case I would say you are better off not marrying, because you don't believe in it. Some people shouldn't get married.

[NoDRodee]

Matt 19, Jesus answers your question: 1 When Jesus had finished these words, He departed from Galilee and came into the region of Judea beyond the Jordan; 2 and large crowds followed Him, and He healed them there. 3 Some Pharisees came to Jesus, testing Him and asking, " Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any reason at all?" 4 And He answered and said, "Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE, 5 and said, 'FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH'? 6"So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."

[Nachum]

Of course not. There is entire tractate in the Talmud on divorce.

[bvw]

Tolerance for sin and sinfulness is more often the consequence of an overly selfless person than of a selfish person.

To be righteous, one must be righteously selfish. Humble, selfless in some measures; at the root of the soul — selfish. One has to hold onto one’s good soul for all get out, and not become wholly subsumed into the “blob”, the mob, the group.

It is like a siren call to join the group, to be subsumed into a group identity. That is also a form of selflessness.

And there are groups one should be such a part of, selflessly. But these are not easy to be part of, nor should they be.

[dajeeps]

Matthew 19:9

“And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another, commits adultery.”

No one has to tolerate adultery or lewd behavior from their spouse.

[kalee]

I didn’t ask a question. I expressed agreement with another poster who was thankful for her husband. We have wonderful husbands and are reminded to to tell them how much we love and appreciate them.

[ShadowAce]

Tolerance for sin and sinfulness is more often the consequence of an overly selfless person than of a selfish person.

I need some explanation for this statement. Tolerance is typically because the tolerator sees himself in the sin of the other and wants/needs company in that sin.

Humble, selfless in some measures; at the root of the soul — selfish.

I'm sorry--but are you reading what you write?

Being selfless is selfish?

It is like a siren call to join the group, to be subsumed into a group identity. That is also a form of selflessness.

Why do you want to join a group? Typically it's because it makes you feel better, or you get something out of it, or it improves your standing. In the end, it's all about you. Selfishness.

[SeekAndFind]

No one has to tolerate adultery or lewd behavior from their spouse.

The only problem with this is Jesus did not say "lewd behavior" or something similar in that verse. He said UNCHASTITY ( e.g. ADULTERY ) and nothing else.

I've always wondered what married men or women who take scripture seriously should do if their spouse are habitually abusive.

[goat granny]

Now that is funny......

[Vaduz]

“What are the top three causes of divorce?”
1. I can’t get along with her boy friends
2. When did she close the savings account
3. Mail from the abortion clinic

[eeevil conservative]

we know what God expects....

there is a WHOLE BOOK dedicated to it...

[stuartcr]

Right, except for those that are of a different faith.