Ping!
An excellent of what we were discussing.
Ya know, I am new to the Catholic Church, but I am already tired to hindsight judgement on Catholic missteps, i.e this issue, and then there is the Notre Dame speech by Dear Leader, the Church needs to stand on principles BEFORE the fact and action, not after. Just a good way to lose membership.....IMHO
it’s much easier to slouch after a test than to stand tall during it.
The Priest remained firm and said, unless you make a complete confession, repent and make restitution, you will NOT have a funeral mass and you will not be buried in sanctified ground. I was young and had not converted at that point, so I can't remember how it turned out. I do know the Priest lived and the Mobster died.
What I cannot recall is anyone receiving a large charitable donation or that the Deviant in question made a good confession. I would have to assume no Priest had enough time to hear the laundry list of offenses. It could have taken months and there's a shortage of priests, you know.
For some reason, all I can think of is that cheer we used for a basket in high school basketball:
Burke! Burke!
He's our man!
If he can't do it,
No one can!
:)
I’m sorry RCC, the time to confront this man was while he was alive.
Cowards.
If the church were being honest, they would prove it by kicking out the rest of the homopromo abortion loving Democrats from the church.
Unconditional forgiveness serves neither the Church not God. The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches us in number 1864 that the only “limit” to His mercy is the hardness of heart of the offender: “Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin." (Mark 3:29, Matthew 12:32, Luke 12:10) There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit. Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss.” Forgiveness requires contrition and, on his greatest sin, Kennedy was neither contrite or repentant.
By his own admission Edward Kennedy was a flawed human being. Had his flaws and transgressions been limited to his failed marriage, the events leading up to and immediately following the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, and the rape charges brought against young men under influence, public forgiveness by the Church would be understandable. None of these represent a grave sin.
The church teaches that abortion is a grave sin and that there is a “grave and clear obligation to oppose” civil laws and judicial decisions that “authorize or promote” these acts. While there may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, there is none with regard to abortion. When a person’s formal cooperation becomes manifest, which in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion, that person is guilty of a grave sin. Let us not forget that Kennedy:
▪ Was rated 100% by NARAL for his pro-choice voting record
▪ Voted NO on banning human cloning.
▪ Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions.
▪ Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.
▪ Voted NO on criminal penalties for harming an unborn child during the commission of another crime.
▪ Voted NO on maintaining the ban on military base abortions.
Even if his claims to I have done his best to "champion the rights of the poor, and open doors of economic opportunity, to have worked to welcome the immigrant, to fight discrimination and expand access to health care and education, opposed the death penalty and fought to end war", this does not balance his nearly life long support for the grave evil that is abortion or excuse his complicity in the deaths of millions of innocents.
Someone better pull this archbishop back in line real fast. The funeral had to have been correct because it was permitted to occur within a Catholic church. The Church would not have made a mistake like this.
Burke’s comments are absolutely outrageous and his actions uncanonical. To intrude into the affairs of the Archdiocese of Boston and of the Cardinal, however veiled his comments were, is beyond the pale no matter what one thinks of Kennedy.
The reason Burke was removed from St. Louis was his refusal to abode by the canons prohibiting crossing into the jurisdictions of other hierarchs. Apparently exiling him to a court which spends its time dealing with annulments and laicizations hasn’t been effective to persuade him to conform to the canons,stay out of America and avoid embarrassing the Vatican. Burke, like that character Martino, will “retire” soon; probably for “health reasons”.
Burke’s comments are absolutely outrageous and his actions uncanonical. To intrude into the affairs of the Archdiocese of Boston and of the Cardinal, however veiled his comments were, is beyond the pale no matter what one thinks of Kennedy.
The reason Burke was removed from St. Louis was his refusal to abide by the canons prohibiting crossing into the jurisdictions of other hierarchs. Apparently exiling him to a court which spends its time dealing with annulments and laicizations hasn’t been effective to persuade him to conform to the canons,stay out of America and avoid embarrassing the Vatican. Burke, like that character Martino, will “retire” soon; probably for “health reasons”.
It’s not about giving succor in an hour of need, as O’Malley is saying, but about promoting and encouraging and condoning these “Catholic” pols in their time of power and influence yielding. I can’t recall a time when O’Malley blasted Kennedy in his lifetime, or Kerry, or any of them. So let’s not try to turn it into a story about a grieving family.
How timely and how unified.