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Revelation 13:18, “Here is wisdom.....
Vanity | October 4th, 2009 | TaraP

Posted on 10/04/2009 8:05:40 PM PDT by TaraP

Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”

He rules a member country that is part of a world body believed to be the New Roman Empire (future kingdom of the antichrist-Daniel 2; 8:25).

He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

As Christians of *Today* do we have the wisdom to truly identify who the Antichrist truly is?


TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: antichrist; apocalypseofstjohn; endofdays; misc; religion; vanity
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1 posted on 10/04/2009 8:05:40 PM PDT by TaraP
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To: TaraP

THANKS.

You can ping the list . . . maybe at a level 2 or 3?


2 posted on 10/04/2009 8:11:33 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP

I have been called either the “Pale Horse” or the “anti-Christ” for various reasons.


3 posted on 10/04/2009 8:12:25 PM PDT by sonofstrangelove ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: TaraP
“As Christians of *Today* do we have the wisdom to truly identify who the Antichrist truly is?”

Mindless network television?

4 posted on 10/04/2009 8:14:02 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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To: TaraP
Had I been alive in 1939-44, I would have said Hitler.

Our job is to lead others to Christ, not anti-Christ.

5 posted on 10/04/2009 8:14:22 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Quix

Will do Quix..Thanks!


6 posted on 10/04/2009 8:14:51 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; airborne; Amityschild; AngieGal; aragorn; auggy; autumnraine; backhoe; bearsgirl90; ...

Ping friends...


7 posted on 10/04/2009 8:15:53 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: TaraP
"...do we have the wisdom to truly identify who the Antichrist truly is?"

Given Pres'ent DUh-bama's close circle of friends, there are many candidates but we can have a pretty good guess....


8 posted on 10/04/2009 8:17:50 PM PDT by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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To: knarf

I agree...However if people think the Antichrist is the *One* and not the only begotten Son of GOD Jesus the Christ then I think, they also should know about the deception as the ANtichrist.


9 posted on 10/04/2009 8:18:17 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: TaraP

True Believers in Jesus Christ will not be here to know. If you are here then you missed the boat...have no fear though.. God’s two witnesses (Moses/Elijah) from Israel will pick up the torch and evangelize the world for 3/12 years Rev 11 and the 144,000 Jewish men will evangelize the world till Christ/Messiah’s glorious return to establish His kingdom.

The key passage is (2 Thes. 2:5-14, Rev 4:1)

http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2008/07/sets-in-west-and-rises-in-east.html

http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2008/09/seven-years-to-day-part-1.html

http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2008/10/in-6000-years-of-mans-history-pinnacle.html


10 posted on 10/04/2009 8:19:46 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Thanks! Yes I know that we (And hopefully me too) will be caught up in the Rapture, but I do know many close to me like my mother..:( who will proably be here to witness the power of the Antichrist....

My mom believes in GOD but not the bible only bits and peices and she does not believe the rapture....Maybe she will before it happens..I hope so.


11 posted on 10/04/2009 8:23:35 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: TaraP
As Christians of *Today* do we have the wisdom to truly identify who the Antichrist truly is?

I have a couple candidates:


12 posted on 10/04/2009 8:23:56 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: ElectronVolt

Yikes! Looks like the Antichrist’s first family!


13 posted on 10/04/2009 8:24:55 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: TaraP

Not until he confirms a 7 year treaty between Israel and many nations.


14 posted on 10/04/2009 8:25:01 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: knarf
Had I been alive in 1939-44, I would have said Hitler. Our job is to lead others to Christ, not anti-Christ.

Good answer! The question should have been:

As Christians of *Today* do we have the wisdom to truly identify who the AnticChrist truly is?

15 posted on 10/04/2009 8:29:24 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (...We never faced anything like this...we only fought humans.)
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To: tang-soo

Which if any person in Politics right now was able to do that..

CNN and Fox News to Broadcast Mr. so and so has just accomplished a 7 year Peace treaty with Israel and all it’s neighbors the next News Flash would be:

BREAKING NEWS! The Antichrist has been identified! so it cannot be done this way....


16 posted on 10/04/2009 8:31:10 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: TaraP

bookmark


17 posted on 10/04/2009 8:31:40 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: TaraP
If zero is ant-Christ, our time is short and we must increase our efforts to lead the lost to Jesus.

I used to see a devil behind every tree shortly after I was saved in 1981 .. and for some years after. I discovered "Coast to Coast" around that time and found myself ridiculing what I heard.

Then I realized I was the same weird.

It changed the way I view the Book of Revelation and also the anti-Christ things I had been thinking/seeing.

Good data, but not an operating platform.

imo

18 posted on 10/04/2009 8:32:38 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: TaraP

If you and your mother know Jesus as your Savior your going up even if you are not sure. May God help you to see this clear biblical truth of this reality if you are unsure. I’ll be praying for you to that end

God bless!
David I.F.


19 posted on 10/04/2009 8:36:40 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: TaraP

THX THX


20 posted on 10/04/2009 8:38:27 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Tara; All

Interesting .... but the Anti-Christ will not be revealed until after the rapture of the church.

So .... we don’t even have any reason to be looking for him/her at this point.

However, people who reject Christ as their Savior, can certainly exhibit some of the same characteristics.

Let’s make it a habit to “rightly divide the Word of Truth”.


21 posted on 10/04/2009 8:41:43 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: TaraP

Thanks for the ping!


22 posted on 10/04/2009 8:43:31 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Thank you my friend!

God Bless!


23 posted on 10/04/2009 8:46:47 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
"Mindless network television? "

I rather think of the current MSM as the false prophet.

24 posted on 10/04/2009 8:53:36 PM PDT by strongbow
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To: knarf

Best damn retort to the Antichrist watchers I’ve heard. Brevity is the soul of wit.


25 posted on 10/04/2009 8:55:38 PM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: TaraP

My question is when does Jesus come and get His believers? Is it after the anti christ makes his move? Is it after he’s in power but before it’s announced? Will it ever be announced?

If people all over the world are seen floating up into the clouds to meet Jesus I’d think those who didn’t get to go would certainly start believing. Or does the anti christ brain wash the masses so they don’t see?

I’m trying to find a preacher who will answer the questions: How will we know who the anti christ is if we miss the rapture? And will church leaders tell us who he is before the rapture?

Rambling over.


26 posted on 10/04/2009 9:00:36 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I hate all politicians, including republicans.)
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To: TaraP; Quix; The Ignorant Fisherman

Can you guys add me to your respective ping lists? I don’t post very often but I do enjoy reading what you guys do when I come across it. Thanks!


27 posted on 10/04/2009 9:03:24 PM PDT by creeping death
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To: creeping death; Quix

Yes Yes...Will do!


28 posted on 10/04/2009 9:08:43 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: TaraP

Thank you very much!


29 posted on 10/04/2009 9:10:02 PM PDT by creeping death
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To: Terry Mross; The Ignorant Fisherman

Ignorant Fisherman can you help with this question?

Post #26


30 posted on 10/04/2009 9:12:02 PM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: TaraP

My sister sent me an audio of some speaker saying Jesus may have revealed the name of the anti christ. I have no idea who the guy is or if he’s legit. Bottom line he says the true translation of Aramaic says O is the a.c. and his name is actually spolen by Jesus.

I don’t know how to send it but if you will give me an email address by private message I can email it to you. It’s pretty convincing.


31 posted on 10/04/2009 9:19:55 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I hate all politicians, including republicans.)
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To: Terry Mross

Subject: Did Jesus name the anti-christ? INTERESTING. Ron

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=63933

......hmmmmm


32 posted on 10/04/2009 9:29:13 PM PDT by sbark
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To: TaraP

33 posted on 10/04/2009 9:34:07 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Terry Mross

The Bible tells us the anti-Christ will not be revealed until after the church has left.

But .. you can imagine how panic stricken the world will be after the rapture .. voila! Enter the anti-Christ who will promise everything to everybody, and even perform wonders and miracles. People being in that scary frame of mind can easily be manipulated.

However, there will be thousands who will become believers during the tribulation.

Actually, it’s better to receive Christ NOW! and then you don’t have to ever worry about who the anti-Christ is or isn’t.


34 posted on 10/04/2009 11:07:41 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: Terry Mross

Read Revelation starting with the seals (CH 6-7), you will find that the seals are not judgments, they are setting up the world to accept the beast. He will be hidden from most people and operate in the background, he will be fully reveled at the middle point of the tribulation. If you are left behind, when the two witnesses appear in Israel(CH 11:1-14), that is the start of the tribulation time for their ministry lasts 3 1/2 years. And they will be allowed to strike the earth/nations with any plague they wish.

The first judgments are the tumpets (CH 8-9), GOD warning those left behind that worse is to come and to repent. Most people left behind will think that things are going along pretty much the same and will not be convinced that they need to repent. The first judgements will wake some up to what is happening, but most will think the disasters are caused by global climate change, and Israel being stubborn and not embraceing the new world order.

The doodoo will hit the fan when at the 3 1/2 year point the beast kills the two witnesses and then enters the HOLY of HOLIES in the Temple in Israel(Dan 9:27, Matt 24:15-22) and claim that he is god, then some will know for sure who he is, most will think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. That starts the last 3 1/2 years of the tribulation, called the great tribulation and Jacob’s trouble. The judgements here are the bowls(CH 15-16), and the earth and those living on it will be devistated almost completely by the time everything is done. It will take JESUS return to earth and specifically to Israel to stop the maddness and slaughter and bring REAL peace to the earth and Israel.

As for the Rapture, those caught up to be with the LORD will just disappear in the twinkeling of an eye (about 1/1000th of a second, maybe faster), no one will be seen raising up in the air. Just here then gone, just like that (1 Cor 15:51-52, 1 Thes 4:15-18). The world will be changed at that time, some nations will be permanently crippled, others will hardly a notice a change in their population, but all nations will be affected.

Jesus will come for the church before the start of the tribulation to take his bride out of this wicked earth. It may be some time before the start of the tribulation(Rev 3:10, Luke 21:36), a year, maybe more. Look how fast we got a skin after 9/11, (hardened heart if you ask me, though not everyone, and this pushed by the media.)

Read your bible and pray for discernment and understanding, the HOLY SPIRIT will help you understand what is written and lead you into the truth. He is our guide and teacher and will tell us what Jesus has said and done(John 16:5-15).


35 posted on 10/05/2009 12:25:02 AM PDT by coincheck (My son is home, safe. My brother is in Afghanistan, My brother-in-law is in Iraq Pray for them all.)
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To: TaraP

Here’s a clue that the end times are near:

China and Japan begin talks on building alliance
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2355014/posts

Revelation 16:12

12The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.


36 posted on 10/05/2009 12:36:59 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kevmo
Thank you for posting that!! I had not seen it.

That bit of news is indeed extremely significant in the ongoing, daily fulfillment of Bible prophecy.

It's awe-inspiring to me how each and every bit of what God said would occur on the earth right before His return is happening right before our eyes.

"When you see these things happen, look up, lift up your heads, for your redemption grows near". We're going home soon!

37 posted on 10/05/2009 1:16:52 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: creeping death

Sure.

Here’s the list sections/levels. Please let me know where you want on it. Each level of a higher number includes all the levels below it—e.g. 2 includes 1; 3 includes 2 & 1 etc.

TaraP; Joya; & LibertyRocks kindly help me with backup when I can’t get to it for some reason.

Thanks for your interest.


38 posted on 10/05/2009 4:12:23 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: coincheck

That’s the sequence and explanation that persistently makes the most sense to me.

Thx.


39 posted on 10/05/2009 4:14:31 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Kevmo

Dimitru Duduman saw in his dreams and visions from The Lord . . . Japan joining with China in attacking the USA . . . and receiving Hawaii as payment/thanks.


40 posted on 10/05/2009 4:15:29 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

INDEED.

Only the willfully blind, the willfully ignorant, those who idolize mangled rubberized ‘scriptures’ . . .

seem to be cluelessly unaware.


41 posted on 10/05/2009 4:16:35 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Terry Mross

He will demand to be worshiped as God.

He will demand his mark/computer chip ID in every hand or forehead.

He will seduce Israel into a 7 year peace agreement that he will break at the 3.5 year mark—which will also be when he sets up his image in the rebuilt Jewish Temple—and the Israeli’s realize they’ve been snookered—and start fleeing from the Temple courtyard outward as they are slaughtered by the thousands.

I don’t think OThuga is more than the current designated destroyer and way preparer; dry run tester of brainwashing systems etc. imho, The AC will be much slicker and have a more lily white reputation when he first springs on the scene.


42 posted on 10/05/2009 4:20:02 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: knarf

CERTAINLY.

THOUGH . . . CHRIST HIMSELF

INSTRUCTED HIS FOLLOWERS

TO WATCH, WAIT, BE READY, LAMPS FULL OF OIL . . .

And HE excoriated the pharisees for being able to tell the weather but not the signs of the times.

So, are you encouraing folks to be so clueless about the signs of the times that Jesus would rebuke them, too?


43 posted on 10/05/2009 4:22:01 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Thanks.


44 posted on 10/05/2009 4:23:13 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP

God have mercy.

All we can do is pray and give them information.


45 posted on 10/05/2009 4:23:36 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alex Murphy

Uhhhhhhhhh . . .

asked by a “Christian????”

Holy Spirit is in the department of drawing folks to Christ.

I thought Calvinists believed that!??


46 posted on 10/05/2009 4:25:27 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: knarf

The Great Commission is an abiding mandate.

God has allowed me to use prophetic/END TIMES STUFF to help lead a number of folks to Christ.


47 posted on 10/05/2009 4:27:01 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: CalvaryJohn

Is it reasonable to assume that you and those around you are as ready to meet The Lord as possible?


48 posted on 10/05/2009 4:28:30 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Terry Mross

He’s already in control behind the scenes. Has evidently been so for at least a decade or 3.


49 posted on 10/05/2009 4:29:14 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Don't get so upset ... Jesus' admonition was to those that already knew the signs
50 posted on 10/05/2009 4:35:18 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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