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The Dispensational "Parenthesis" Theory Examined
The Seventy Weeks And The Great Tribulation - Chapter 7 ^ | 1921 | Philip Mauro

Posted on 10/05/2009 12:40:05 PM PDT by topcat54

Are The Seventy Weeks of Daniel Consecutive?

The idea which we have discussed in our last chapter, namely that Daniel 9:27 refers not to Christ but to antichrist is usually coupled with, another, also of a very radical sort, namely, that the 70th week of Gabriel's prophecy does not come where we would naturally expect to find it, that is, immediately after the 69th week, but that it is detached from the other 69, is separated from them by many centuries, is yet in the future, and will be found at the very end of this present age. The extent to which these ideas have found acceptance in our day makes it a matter of importance to inquire very carefully into the reasons that have been given in support thereof.

We do not know just when or how these ideas sprang up. That is not, of course, a reason for rejecting them; for God is pleased from time to time to give new light from His Word. But it is a reason for subjecting them to a rigid scrutiny. This we have sought to do, and the result is we have come to the conclusion that, not only are they destitute of support in the Word of God, but they are directly contrary thereto. This we shall endeavor to make clear.

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"Finally, it is clear beyond all dispute that the exposition we are discussing detaches the predicted events of verses 24 and 27 entirely from the prophetic seventy weeks, of which they constitute the very soul and essence, and leaves them to happen whenever they may. Indeed, it severs the predictions of verse 27 from Christ altogether, and transfers them to some future antichrist, though of that feature of the case we need not speak at present. It follows that, just as the Jews, having closed their eyes to the coming of Messiah the Prince at the predicted time, and to the complete fulfilment of this and other prophecies in His day (Acts 13:27) by His being "cut off," are vaguely looking for a fulfilment of their expectations at some indefinite time in the future, even so the expositors referred to, having closed their eyes to the complete fulfilment of verses 24 and 27 in the seventieth actual week from the given starting point, are looking vaguely and vainly for some other fulfilment, at an indefinite future time, in the imaginary doings of some antichrist, who they say (but without a word of Scripture to support them) will make a bargain with "many" Jews about renewing their temple-sacrifices, and will break that supposed bargain after three and a half years. The only difference is that, whereas the Jews have thrown the prophecy overboard completely, the expositors referred to are trying to show respect for it, and to make it agree with their interpretation, by the expedient of carrying the last week of the seventy all down the centuries of our era, purposing to find a place for it on the chart of time when their imaginary fulfilment shall come to pass -if ever."
1 posted on 10/05/2009 12:40:06 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; HarleyD; suzyjaruki; nobdysfool; jkl1122; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Dr. Eckleburg; ...
Reformed Eschatology Ping List (REPL)
Biblically Optimistic and Gospel-Based

"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Luke 21:22)

2 posted on 10/05/2009 12:41:19 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: topcat54; AZ .44 MAG; prairiebreeze; Beloved Levinite; TwelveOfTwenty; arderkrag; dixiebelle; ...

Baptist ping


3 posted on 10/05/2009 12:42:13 PM PDT by WKB (From "Handout" to "Bailout")
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To: topcat54; Amityschild; Blogger; boatbums; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
HEAR YE HEAR YE HEAR YE

Above is more

deadly, deceptivev, irrational, destructive

unmitigated hogwash from hell . . . prancing about in the usual

REPLACEMENTARIAN, A-MIL, POST-MIL, PRETERIST, RUN-OF-THE-MIL

trashy rags and stink.

Be gullible at your own spiritual risk.

4 posted on 10/05/2009 12:44:43 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
If you truly believe that God is in control of everything, INCLUDING the end times then you shouldn't feel as though you have a right to denigrate those that have a different perspective than you. Otherwise it has become nothing more than an exercise in pride, and you know where that leads.

Keep your mind open and you just might learn something.

5 posted on 10/05/2009 12:51:47 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

Mamma and The Lord

taught me that open minds equal to screen doors on submarines

were unwise.

Some things THE LORD has made abundantly clear.

I’d be THE IDIOT disbelieving HIM.

I’ll continue to derisively dinegrate junk from hell.


6 posted on 10/05/2009 12:57:03 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: P8riot

I take the role of

WATCHMAN ON THE WALL

VERY SERIOUSLY.

I don’t want anyone else’s blood on my hands.


7 posted on 10/05/2009 12:57:53 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

Did you know that the Greek word for 'pearls' is "margarita"?

8 posted on 10/05/2009 12:59:13 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: topcat54

I'm sure it gets tiring to read so much prophecy in the Scriptures and still have to internally deny what it really means.

9 posted on 10/05/2009 1:01:32 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank; xzins

...yeah, but another 50 or so cut-n-pasties, and that ol’ conscience thingie should be dead and quiet.


10 posted on 10/05/2009 1:08:03 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: topcat54

If Temple sacrifices began in Jerusalem tomorrow, then just what would that do to your theology???


11 posted on 10/05/2009 1:09:22 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: fishtank; xzins

It all depends on what the definition of “Is... real” is.


12 posted on 10/05/2009 1:22:51 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: P8riot; topcat54; Quix
These type threads are arguments similar to what atheist use.

If you're firm in your belief that there is no God, (or that the ETs have already happened) then why argue about it. You're not going to convince others who are equally firm in their beliefs, so why create this tension.

I guess for the sake of discussion....

13 posted on 10/05/2009 1:29:53 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

Worthy point.

I just know that . . .

unless and until The Lord gives me a different script, mandate, role, . . .

I’ll not easily or often

allow docrtines of demons from hell about GOD’S FAITHFULNESS SUCH AS WITH HIS EVERLASTING PROMISES to Jacob, to Christians . . .

be trashed with a free pass.

LURKERS et al will at least know there is a forceful and Biblical alternative perspective to such deadly balderdash.


14 posted on 10/05/2009 1:44:33 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Uncle Chip

Great question.

AFter 10+ years of asking such REPLACEMENTARIANS SUCH QUESTIONS

without a single straight answer that I can recall . . .

I almost wonder if they are CAPABLE of a straight answer to such a reasonable question.


15 posted on 10/05/2009 1:45:34 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: BibChr

I thought such consciences were already frozen granite under the glaciers in Greenland.


16 posted on 10/05/2009 1:46:13 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: fishtank

I’m sure it gets tiring to read so much prophecy in the Scriptures and still have to internally deny what it really means.


INDEED.

Unless they have no synaptical connections that can apprehend/ contain such truths to begin with.


17 posted on 10/05/2009 1:47:21 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

“LURKERS et al will at least know there is a forceful and Biblical alternative perspective to such deadly balderdash.”

You’re right. I thought of this *after* I posted.

There are always the undecided/unsure flocks.


18 posted on 10/05/2009 1:48:34 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Quix

Nobody’s salvation is up to you. Not even your own.


19 posted on 10/05/2009 1:51:49 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: wolfcreek

Just happens to be my conviction.

Thanks for your kind reply.


20 posted on 10/05/2009 1:53:00 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: P8riot

The Lord Jesus The Christ is the author and finisher of my faith.

However, I’m not a Calvinist.

I thought you’d have known that.


21 posted on 10/05/2009 1:53:39 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Non-Calvinists don’t save themselves either :~)


22 posted on 10/05/2009 1:55:22 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

I’ve never said I saved myself.

Which part of

JESUS THE CHRIST IS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF MY FAITH

is unclear?


23 posted on 10/05/2009 1:58:37 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Uncle Chip; Quix

You don’t even have to go that far.

Go back to John Nelson Darby writings of about 120-150 years ago.

He was clearly expecting a future reestablishment of Israel as a nation, IN UNBELIEF, by the way, since that fits the Scripture.

What happened then in 1948? Israel of course.

Preterism was dealt a lethal blow, since most Christians then realized that God was working mightily.

So why is preterism so popular now?

Because the existence of Israel has LOST ITS NOVELTY.

A preterist preacher now has an audience that has no past history perspective............


24 posted on 10/05/2009 2:56:12 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

EXCELLENT POINTS, IMHO.

Thanks.


25 posted on 10/05/2009 3:38:34 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: fishtank
I'm sure it gets tiring to read so much prophecy in the Scriptures and still have to internally deny what it really means.

I do not have to deny anything, except the flawed interpretation of the dispensational system.

26 posted on 10/05/2009 5:33:33 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: BibChr; tank; xzins
...yeah, but another 50 or so cut-n-pasties, and that ol’ conscience thingie should be dead and quiet.

I'm honored to have a preeminent defender of a fundamentally non-Reformed system comment here.

27 posted on 10/05/2009 5:40:31 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: topcat54; BibChr; tank
I'm honored to have a preeminent defender of a fundamentally non-Reformed system comment here.

Which makes it all the more necessary for to give BibChr's words a second look.

26 After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Are you saying that the Messiah sets up an abomination that causes desolation? It's the same "he" in verse 27. The "Annointed One" is "cut off" way back in verse 26.

28 posted on 10/05/2009 5:56:06 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
"fundamentally non-Reformed"

Ah yes. Stupid Reason #3.

29 posted on 10/05/2009 6:20:02 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr; fishtank; xzins; topcat54
When you see these types of statements at the beginning of a polemic you can be sure what follows is a thin argument, “full of sound and fury etc.”

“But it is a reason for subjecting them to a rigid scrutiny. This we have sought to do, and the result is we have come to the conclusion that, not only are they destitute of support in the Word of God, but they are directly contrary thereto. This we shall endeavor to make clear.”

“For we are bound to reject any and every interpretation which is not supported by the Scriptures.”

“The interpretation we are discussing has no basis whatever in the Scriptures. It is entirely a work of the imagination, resting upon nothing but unprovable assumptions”

The writer then sets out his rule governing his interpretation of the importance of sequential time periods.

“Where periods of time are given beforehand in the prophecies of the Bible they always mean that the time-units composing the period named are continuous. This must be so, else the prediction would serve only to deceive those who believed it. We have no other way of describing and limiting a period of time than by stating the number of time-units (hours, days, months, or years) contained therein. It is therefore a necessary law of language that the time- units be understood as being connected together without a break”.

However during the course of his polemic he recognizes he has a major problem that could destroy his whole argument so he separates the destruction of Jerusalem:

“The words "for the overspreading of abominations" are very obscure, and many suggestions as to their meaning have been offered. We shall not discuss these, for the reason that the Septuagint translation gives a clear rendering, and our Lord's adoption of it puts the authoritative stamp of His approval upon it. According to that version "the abomination of desolation" was to be upon (or to come against) the temple, that is, for its destruction. In other words there was to come an agency or force (which God terms an "abomination", which was to make the place a "desolation."

“The Lord Jesus Christ used the same expression when, in warning His disciples of the approaching destruction of Jerusalem by the armies of Titus, He said: "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand), then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountain, " etc,”

from the crucifixion by two pages in his manuscript hoping, I suppose, the reader has a short term memory problem or is not really focused after wading through the previous nonsense:

“At this point in our exposition it appears desirable to notice a question which has arisen in the minds of some in regard to the fraction of the seventieth week remaining after the death, resurrection and ascension of Christ, whereby the predictions of verse 24 (of Daniel 9), as well as those of the first half of verse 27, were fulfilled. To some it seems that our exposition leaves three and a half years not accounted for if, however, we give attention to the terms of the prophecy we will clearly see that it affords no warrant for such a question. Those who ask it have evidently failed to take into consideration the fact that, in this prophecy, the unit of the time measure is a heptad, not a year. If we think of the Seventieth "Week" as a period of seven years, then it would indeed appear as if there were three years and over which were not accounted for by the exposition. But if, on the other hand, we take the prophecy as it is given, that is to say, in heptads, not years, then it will be clearly seen that all the seventy heptads are accounted for. For our exposition simply follows the terms of the prophecy, which are quite plain and which locate certain events "in the midst of" the last heptad, but do not locate any events at the end thereof. If, therefore, any part of the determined period is unaccounted for, it is the prophecy itself, and not this writer's exposition thereof, that is chargeable. But the fact is that the prophecy accounts first for sixty-nine heptads (which reached "unto the Messiah") and then it accounts specifically for the one remaining heptad, and for the whole of it, by telling what was to happen in the midst thereof. Thus the prophecy (and the exposition which simply follows it) leaves no part of tile prophetic period unaccounted for.”

Let’s see now, if Messiah is cut off in the middle of the 70th “heptad” (30 A.D.) and Jerusalem is destroyed sometime during the 70th “heptad” (70 A.D.) that would mean that this writer’s “heptad” has an unaccounted for gap or it means anything he wants it to mean or its Daniel’s fault.

30 posted on 10/05/2009 6:36:15 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

It is customary and proper to give credit to your quotations, unless they are your own work of course, which is probably not the case here, since I doubt you are that old.


31 posted on 10/06/2009 2:36:21 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot; blue-duncan

Never-mind I see that it is part of the original text. My bad.


32 posted on 10/06/2009 2:38:05 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Quix
The Lord Jesus The Christ is the author and finisher of my faith.

However, I’m not a Calvinist.

So somewhere in that salvation equation you are inserting your self?

Perhaps The Lord Jesus The Christ is the author and finisher of my faith but I was smart enough to tag along?

33 posted on 10/06/2009 3:00:39 AM PDT by Gamecock ("...Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles" and both to Americans.)
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To: Gamecock

I understand your argument.

There are mysteries involved.

I don’t buy your argument.

Scripture is on both sides of the issue.

Calvinists only cling to one side of such sets of Scriptures. I don’t buy that.

I insist on the whole counsel of God in Scripture.

Nice try.

I hope you and family are well.

Is there any sense where you are in any of the Christian circles you brush up against . . . or . . . co-worker circles . . . of looming anythings of a dramatic nature?

There MUST be . . . amongst your network there . . . but knowing who and what they know or sense might be tricky to ferret out without delicate . . . communications.


34 posted on 10/06/2009 4:10:08 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: blue-duncan

LOL.

GOOD POINTS.


35 posted on 10/06/2009 4:11:28 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

It is good to see you are still arounf my FRiend.

I am safe and secure in Germany. There does seem to be a spiritual fog among the locals that matches the one outside my window.


36 posted on 10/06/2009 4:17:54 AM PDT by Gamecock ("...Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles" and both to Americans.)
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To: Gamecock

No comments about the Jihadi public assertions that they are going to attack Germany on a Sunday in Oct???


37 posted on 10/06/2009 4:37:15 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Things are quiet where we are.


38 posted on 10/06/2009 4:43:05 AM PDT by Gamecock ("...Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles" and both to Americans.)
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To: blue-duncan
Where periods of time are given beforehand in the prophecies of the Bible they always mean that the time-units composing the period named are continuous.

Let’s see now, if Messiah is cut off in the middle of the 70th “heptad” (30 A.D.) and Jerusalem is destroyed sometime during the 70th “heptad” (70 A.D.)

In adddition to making that "heptad" meaningless, it also says that he's off the mark with his "continuous time" theory.

39 posted on 10/06/2009 6:44:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

” it also says that he’s off the mark with his “continuous time” theory”

“Parenthesis” can really mess up your tight eschatology almost as bad as “they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”


40 posted on 10/06/2009 6:50:41 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan
“they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”

The canonical books of Flavius Josephus record the fulfillment of that prophecy prior to 70 AD.

Unfortunately, none of the early church had a clue: (1) that it happened, (2) that Josephus was canonical.

41 posted on 10/06/2009 7:00:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

THOSE UNRUBBERIZED SCRIPTURES

can be soooooooooooooo pesky

for the rubber minded.


42 posted on 10/06/2009 9:37:34 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: blue-duncan; Alamo-Girl; airborne; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; ..
“Parenthesis” can really mess up your tight eschatology almost as bad as
“they shall see"
the Son of man
coming
in the clouds
of heaven
with power
and great glory.”

THAT ONE SENTENCE
!!!!ALONE!!!! [like so many]

UTTERLY SHREDS
the
REPLACEMENTARIAN et al
HOUSE OF
RUBBER CARDS
'THEOLOGY.'

Evidently, most of their minds are Spandex stretched to the depths of and in and out of so many rabbit holes . . . it's hard to get sufficient synapses in the same corner of ONE rabbit hole long enough to come to such a realization.

“they shall see"

NOT 'they shall fantasize.'
RATHER, they shall see
--with open eyes--
AT that future time
TANGIBLY,
NOT ETHERIALLY!
AS THE HOLY ANGELS SAID
AT THE ASCENSION

"IN LIKE MANNER"
to His going away
in the tangible clouds
HE WILL RETURN!

the Son of man

NOT a 3D holographic
HOLLYWEED/FALLEN ANGEL
projected image
NOT a new age
ET cloned imposter
NOT a spiritualized
figment of a 2,000
year old REPLACEMENTARIAN’s
wild haired imagination
!!!!NO!!!!
--INSTEAD--
OUR RISEN LORD!
CHRIST JESUS!
KING OF KINGS
And
LORD OF LORDS
COMING IN
!!!!GREAT!!!!
POWER AND GLORY!
[accept NO substitutes!]

coming

REALLY COMING!
NOT sitting at the
Right Hand of
THE FATHER THEN!
REALLY COMING!
NOT going!
COMING!
COMING AGAIN!
THE RETURN
OF
!!!!THE!!!!
!!!!KING!!!!

in the clouds

Hmmmmm
IN the visible
Tangible
CLOUDS
IN THE AIR
IN LIKE MANNER
As He was seen
To go away!
NOT in a helicopter!
NOT on a huge eagle!
IN CLOUDS!

of heaven

As He went away,
They were left staring
at EMPTY SKY.
THAT
Layer of ‘heaven.’

with power

!!!!NOT!!!!
a laser light show!
!!!!NOT!!!!
A wave-length/
Scalar wave projection
A la mass mind control
Into viewers brains
By technology!
!!!!NOT!!!!
A New Age
Demonically orchestrated
MASS DELUSION FROM HELL

!!!!NOT!!!!
Some Goa’uld projection
From a System Lord
Ha’tak pyramid mothership!
!!!!!!!NO!!!!!!!
!THE REAL DEAL!
!!!!!NOT!!!!!
With borrowed
power!
HIS OWN
CREATE-ALL-THAT-IS-
LEVEL of HIS
PERSONAL KING OF KINGS
AND LORD OF LORDS POWER!

and GREAT GLORY.”

!!!!!!!NOT!!!!!!!
Some rationalized,
Neuterized,
Homogenized,
Sanitized,
Spiritualized,
REPLACEMENTARIAN,
!!!!!FICTION!!!!!
THE VERY TANGIBLY REAL
RETURN OF THE VERY
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS
TO OUR ERA,
TO EARTH,
TO US!
We have been born for
SUCH A TIME AS THIS!
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD!
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD!
BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD!
BLESSED BE THE WILL OF THE LORD!

43 posted on 10/06/2009 11:06:55 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Gamecock

Is there no talk of the Jihadi’s assertion that they will attack Germany some Sunday in Oct?


44 posted on 10/06/2009 11:08:14 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: xzins
Unfortunately, none of the early church had a clue: (1) that it happened, (2) that Josephus was canonical.

!!!!GREAT RESPONSE!!!!
though most
REPLACEMENTARIANS et al
seem to be a rather
humorless lot.
EVEN THEIR 'HUMOR'
is a 'COLD PRICKLY!'

CHEERS!

45 posted on 10/06/2009 11:12:40 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
I’m not a Calvinist.

yet.

46 posted on 10/06/2009 12:13:52 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (2)How many things are necessary for thee to know,..? the first, how great my sins and miseries are;)
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To: Quix
a rather humorless lot.

If one's idea of humor is pratfalls and grade school poop jokes, it may appear so.

47 posted on 10/06/2009 12:20:20 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ( Gnosticism and anti-trinitarian heresy, like beans and cabbage, makes for a powerful combo.)
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To: Quix
You said RUBBER …. The Quixomatic RUBBER Meter® is at 3 for the day.

Contestant Q

Thank you for playing. A new game will begin tomorrow.

48 posted on 10/06/2009 2:28:19 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: blue-duncan
Let’s see now, if Messiah is cut off in the middle of the 70th “heptad” (30 A.D.) and Jerusalem is destroyed sometime during the 70th “heptad” (70 A.D.) that would mean that this writer’s “heptad” has an unaccounted for gap or it means anything he wants it to mean or its Daniel’s fault.

You need to read more carefully, my FRiend. Nowhere does it say that Jerusalem is destroyed within the timeframe of the 70th “heptad”.

49 posted on 10/06/2009 2:35:41 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: Quix
jesus picture
50 posted on 10/06/2009 2:56:54 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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