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In The Beginning God, Not Darwin, Created
Post Scripts ^ | 10/11/09 | One Vike

Posted on 10/11/2009 6:56:59 AM PDT by OneVike

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To: dmz

What’s next...Do all apes go to heaven? :)


201 posted on 10/14/2009 5:09:56 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther

What’s next...Do all apes go to heaven? :)

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You wouldn’t want only the dogs there, to the exclusion of the rest of the animal kingdom, would you?. I have it on good authority that all dogs go to heaven.


202 posted on 10/15/2009 1:20:20 PM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

I don’t know about your dog, but I know my dog’s going to heaven! :)

Seriously, I think even our little hamster is going somewhere pretty cool.


203 posted on 10/15/2009 1:41:16 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther; OneVike
I never said you said He couldn't...I merely pointed out to you the possibility you failed to mention...

No...you used the words "something you don’t understand" and proceeded to describe the possibility of a world that God had made look different from what it was...which is exactly as I described, with God acting like Loki the Trickster and misleading Man.

And you also twisted my words about zygotes into them being gametes.

I fail to see where either you or OneVike have addressed that, and I am more and more curious as to whether you actually believe what you claimed about God not being wasteful, or what explanation you have for all of the evident waste in the world.

204 posted on 10/16/2009 3:06:16 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: dmz

Even that pit bull that terrorized the neighborhood out of pure meanness?


205 posted on 10/16/2009 3:07:45 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: rom

Honest question... The geological evidence points so overwhelmingly to much older age than that, so how do you reconcile it? Do you believe God made earth with a falsely old appearance?


206 posted on 10/16/2009 3:17:46 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

I said I’m an OEC, what’s your beef?

I said man < 100,000 years old.


207 posted on 10/16/2009 6:56:09 PM PDT by rom (Israel got Saul before they got David. Where's our David?)
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To: Gondring

That’s right and clearly you STILL don’t understand with comments like “Loki the Trickster and misleading man”.


208 posted on 10/16/2009 9:05:59 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: rom

Apologies...I didn’t read carefully enough and took that as “the earth,” not “man.”


209 posted on 10/16/2009 10:38:00 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: tpanther

Pretty clumsy evasion of my questions.


210 posted on 10/16/2009 10:39:15 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

clumsy post, clumsy questions...


211 posted on 10/18/2009 8:12:12 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther

So your only reply about zygotes is to misrepresent what I wrote, huh?


212 posted on 10/18/2009 8:17:43 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

If the pit bull repents, then it’s OK.


213 posted on 10/19/2009 8:19:02 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
If the pit bull repents, then it’s OK.

heh!

214 posted on 10/19/2009 3:49:12 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Didn’t really pay to much attention about your zygotes, as the rest of your post was so weird.


215 posted on 10/19/2009 6:54:34 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther

Sorry it was over your head.

I’m also sorry that my question about zygotes revealed you had no backing for your claim. I was hoping perhaps you knew something of which I was not aware.


216 posted on 10/20/2009 4:18:40 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Didn’t really pay to much attention about your zygotes, as the rest of your post was so weird.


217 posted on 10/20/2009 4:37:36 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther
Hurts to get caught, doesn't it? Now the whole world can go back upthread and read how you tried to pull a fast one.

To make it easier on folks, I'll copy "the rest of [my] post":

You've walked onto thin ice here.

I have pointed out on previous threads that Young Earth Creationism implies that Yahweh acts like Loki the Trickster. That is, the overwhelming evidence of the earth's old age is either real, or God is misleading us.
The only "weird" part of my post was that extraneous last comma.

And then, to remind about the part that mentioned zygotes, which you tried to turn into gametes and evade when caught:

Secondly, if God "doesn't do wasteful," then life can't begin at conception--since many millions of zygotes are created but discarded from the womb before the mother even knows a conception has occurred.
(Hint: Here's the part of the script where you have the epiphany that honesty is the best policy, and, therefore, decide to face reality.)
218 posted on 10/20/2009 9:45:34 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

If anyone’s evading anything, that would be you with your weird “Loki the Trickster” comment.

I could care less about your misunderstandings about wasteful gametes, zygotes or whatever...but you’re welcome to keep hyperventilating about them. Knock yourself out.

Just because you misunderstand God’s creation doesn’t mean everyone else is obligated to. What might be wasteful to you may not be to others.

What’s a Loki anyway?


219 posted on 10/23/2009 1:56:45 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther

ROTFLOL!


220 posted on 10/23/2009 5:16:29 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: OneVike

[Today, my battle is with those who profess a belief in Christianity, but give deference to Darwin’s theory of evolution instead of God through Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit for Creation.]

The answer to how a Christian can follow the Bible and the creation account in Genesis and still accept the validity of the theory of evolution is quite simple; the creation account serves its purpose metaphorically, rather than literally. The idea that religious meaning can be gained from a metaphorical story in the Bible is widely held by a great many religious people including some who are accomplished scientists.


221 posted on 10/28/2009 5:51:47 PM PDT by spinestein (The answer is 42.)
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