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Dawkins Refuses to Debate Intelligent Design Scholars
The Christian Post ^ | Oct. 13 2009 | Eric Young

Posted on 10/14/2009 8:47:36 AM PDT by bogusname

Atheist author Richard Dawkins has made it loud and clear that he believes faith has no place in science and that a public debate between him and a creationist – of any type – is out of the question. “The objection to having debates with people like that (creationists) is that it gives them a kind of respectability,” Dawkins said during a recent appearance on the Michael Medved show. “If a real scientist goes onto a debating platform with a creationist, it gives them a respectability, which I do not think your people have earned,” he told Discovery Institute President Bruce Chapman, whose organization is best known for its advocacy of Intelligent Design. Following that same logic, Dawkins insisted in another media appearance that only “evidence” can lay the groundwork for science, not “superstition, authority, holy books or revelation.”

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TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: creatonists; dawkins; debate; scientism
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To: bogusname

There is no such thing as an “ID Scholar.” IDers have a belief, not knowledge.

Debating them about scientific principles would be tantamount to debating a shrubbery.


21 posted on 10/14/2009 10:24:31 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: bogusname

I found it now but could not get the video to run. I saw it last year. It is quite long.


22 posted on 10/14/2009 10:26:03 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: bogusname

I used to get a kick out of these debates. People believe one way or the other. That won’t change. I now think these debates are little more than intellectual masturbation.


23 posted on 10/14/2009 10:27:49 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: CalvaryJohn

Have you been reading Sigmund Freud?


25 posted on 10/14/2009 10:41:52 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname
One of my favorite books on the opposing views was published in in 1978: "God and the Astronomers" by the renowned astrophysicist , Robert Jastrow.

It was soon after the scientific community recognized that the earth/universe did, indeed, start with a Big Bang.

He writes: The dazzling brilliance of the radiation in this dense, hot Universe must have been beyond description. The picture suggests the explosion of a cosmic hydrogen bomb. The instant in which the cosmic bomb exploded marked the birth of the Universe.

and in calculating the age of the Universe, using scientific data, he says: When did the Universe explode into being?...the birth of the Universe must have occurred very recently.

and in conclusion, he summed it up: that the Scientist who lives by faith in the power of reason the story will end like a bad dream. He will climb the mountains of ignorance, and conquer the highest peak, and is greeted, as he pulls himself over the last rock, by a group of theologians who have been there all along..

Indeed.

But the atheists still insist on teaching the "THEORY" of Darwin, a naturalist, who wrote to friends: "'My theology is a simple muddle"

Again, Indeed.

26 posted on 10/14/2009 11:07:09 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: Filo

27 posted on 10/14/2009 11:09:48 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7

1 Corinthians 3:19-”For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.”


28 posted on 10/14/2009 11:19:29 AM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname
The broad statements you made have been scientifically proven to be the products of an immature and undeveloped mind. Studies have shown that individuals that make such posts have IQs that average 50 points below the general population.

Really? Could you cite said studies?

And how is it that you are willing to accept that science while denying other scientific evidence that proves evolution?

Especially considering that creationism has exactly zero proof?

I'll happily put my IQ up to yours (or any IDer's) any day. Odds are very slim that you'll be able to beat me.
29 posted on 10/14/2009 11:32:11 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: bogusname
Dawkins believes that space men from another planet are the origin of life on earth. Does he have proof for this? No. All he “knows” is that God did not create the universe. Yet, he claims to be objective and scientific, but creationist are delusional. Go figure.
30 posted on 10/14/2009 11:43:46 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Filo

Those findings are in a study done by a Richard Dawkins.
It’s titled, “How I took advantage of the less gifted and easily fooled.” Dawkins found that the lower a person’s IQ is the more likely he is to accept atheism. He boldly stated that he had conceived a method of extracting money from the most ignorant portion of society. Since these poor folks without sense could so easily be convinced that there is no God, Dawkins wrote a book wherein he pretended to support this foolish notion.
It worked! All of his studies of “stupid people” if you will, paid off. Dawkins is now a very rich man with a large following of dedicated fools. Dawkins is indeed a scientific genius.


31 posted on 10/14/2009 12:01:57 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: Nosterrex

Yes Dawkins did indicate that he believed that was a possibility. I saw that in “Expelled.” To Dawkins, intelligent design is possible...but if it’s true it was done by aliens and not by God.
Dawkins is a nut case.


32 posted on 10/14/2009 12:07:46 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname
"The objection to having debates with people like that (creationists) is that it gives them a kind of respectability,"

Actually I would think that such a debate would actually give Dawkins some respectability.

33 posted on 10/14/2009 12:09:04 PM PDT by Between the Lines (For their sins of 50 million abortions God gave them over to be an ObamaNation {Romans 1:24-32})
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To: Between the Lines

Yes but then again you have good sense.


34 posted on 10/14/2009 12:11:16 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname
Those findings are in a study done by a Richard Dawkins. It’s titled, “How I took advantage of the less gifted and easily fooled.”

Ahh, I should have known.

As with your ability to refute evolution, you've got nothin' but stupidity to offer.

Yay you!

Now, back on the short bus!
35 posted on 10/14/2009 12:20:11 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: Filo

Friend, my point is, the scientific evidence supporting evolution is nothing “but stupidity.” You should have known. Read it again. Romans 1:20 - For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

You are without evidence or excuse.


36 posted on 10/14/2009 12:37:04 PM PDT by bogusname (Banish All Lliberals)
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To: bogusname
Friend, my point is, the scientific evidence supporting evolution is nothing “but stupidity.” You should have known. Read it again. Romans 1:20 - For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

You are without evidence or excuse.


ROFL.

Quoting fictional works is no way to win an argument or prove a point.
37 posted on 10/14/2009 2:17:22 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: HerrBlucher
Based on that evidence Dawkins postulated that the life was planted on earth by aliens

Sorry, but you are wrong. He allowed for the possibility, but discounted it as laughable

38 posted on 10/14/2009 2:41:32 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: HospiceNurse

And so thats his debate answer, and it makes him look silly. And that is the reason he won’t debate ID.


39 posted on 10/14/2009 3:03:25 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Obamanos!)
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To: HerrBlucher

ID has NO scientific basis. It cannot be debated scientifically. It is an opinion. One religion’s creation story is no better that anyone else’s from a scientific standpoint. You cannot debate taste or opinion.


40 posted on 10/14/2009 4:13:41 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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