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Helen Radkey and Salt Lake Tribune strike again
Mormon Times ^ | Oct. 17, 2009 | Joel Campbell

Posted on 10/21/2009 5:22:02 PM PDT by Colofornian

It happened again this week. Call it the Helen Radkey Game. Radkey, a vocal critic of the LDS Church's proxy baptism, finds the infamous or famous in the vast genealogical database of the church.

SNIP

Just read some of Radkey's quotes:


* "It's blatantly wrong to seal a person who took a vow of celibacy as a Catholic priest and is so revered in his Catholic religion," said Radkey, a former Catholic. "It's insulting to perform such an action posthumously. It's very disrespectful..."

Radkey tends to heap blame on the institutional church, when most of the blame rests with misguided and overzealous members.

SNIP

...a response from Terry Orme, Tribune managing editor for news...:

"Our decisions on whether or not to report on LDS Church proxy baptisms are handled the same way we handle all news decisions. We ask: Is this news?...Is this something our readers should know?

"You answer the first question when you say the story makes its way around the world. And as a prominent source of LDS Church news, it is safe to say a proxy baptism and sealing of a Catholic saint to a wife is a story Salt Lake Tribune readers would want to read. If we were to choose to not report it, I would have to ask: Are we fulfilling our commitment to readers?

SNIP

About using Radkey as a source for stories: "...Sen. Orrin Hatch is a critic of the Obama administration. Should we stop quoting him?"

SNIP

"The bottom line is that many people of many faiths take offense at the practice of proxy baptisms. And what made this even more troubling to many of them is the sealing of a canonized Catholic priest to a wife…

(Excerpt) Read more at mormontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: antimormonthread; baptismfordead; lds; mormon; priest
From the opinion column: "It's blatantly wrong to seal a person who took a vow of celibacy as a Catholic priest and is so revered in his Catholic religion," said Radkey, a former Catholic.

Why is the Lds church playing "matchmaker" post-death with single RC priests? Answer: Lds say single people are shut out of the highest degree of glory in heaven. Therefore, if Father Damien was going to get there, they had to find a way to marry him off -- in the nether world!

From the opinion column: Furthermore, in the most recent article about Father Damien, several key questions appeared unasked. Is it possible that Father Damien did have relatives that did submit his name for temple work? The Tribune never explains what a task it might be to police the LDS Church's honor system. How often does the system fail? How many names are submitted a year? How many names are there in the system? Have violators been disciplined? What has the church done to improve the system? The church may not answer many of these questions...

This is truly hilarious. It's not The Trib's job to "explain what a task it might be to police the LDS Church's honor system." That's the job of the Lds church, which owns the paper this journalist writes for!

He then asks a series of Q:
How often does the system fail?
How many names are submitted a year?
How many names are there in the system?
Have violators been disciplined?
What has the church done to improve the system?

As if the Lds church would give this supposed "sacred" info to a Gentitle newspaper! (What gall!)

But then, realizing that his own ultimate bosses are to blame for the Trib not readily having that info available, Campbell concedes: The church may not answer many of these questions...

Furthermore, if Campbell wants to see those Q addressed in print, why doesn't he ask his ultimate bosses himself? He'd stand a better chance of securing the answers to his Q than a "Gentile" newspaper!

1 posted on 10/21/2009 5:22:03 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Truly creepy. The idea of “manipulating” other people’s souls, as if they didn’t have any say over themselves. In fact, as creepy as it gets.


2 posted on 10/21/2009 5:25:25 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
Truly creepy. The idea of “manipulating” other people’s souls, as if they didn’t have any say over themselves. In fact, as creepy as it gets.

It would be "creepy" if you believed they had that power. I believe they are deluded people wasting their time. Surely God knows the truth. Let them conjure and create spells. It is a fool's errand. My father and mother are in heaven praying for these fools' souls.

3 posted on 10/21/2009 5:47:09 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: Colofornian

Since the LDS “religion” is a house of flimsy cards, built on a very strange sorcerer’s revelations while using magic stones and having hallucinations, who really cares what they do. It’s all gobbledygook anyway.

Not worth getting upset about. It’s very much like giving the Nobel Peace Prize to that Kenyan-born, anti-American, illegal alien in the White House.

Who cares? I don’t!


4 posted on 10/21/2009 6:07:40 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: HospiceNurse

Perhaps I didn’t make myself clear. What I find creepy is that they think they can do that. I agree with you.


5 posted on 10/21/2009 6:58:10 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Their (lds) hubris knows no bounds.

Much like there founder j.smith

“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet”

History of the Church Page 408-409


6 posted on 10/21/2009 7:06:44 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Colofornian

What a cruel, foul thing for the leadership of the mormons to allow...

To marry a man in a mock ceremony to a strange woman..

A good man who had consecrated his life to God and chasity, and had given his life to help the kind of people that Munson wont help...

When was the last time Munson ever put his arms around a leper ???


7 posted on 10/21/2009 10:07:41 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian
Lds say single people are shut out of the highest degree of glory in heaven.

And they CLAIM to be 'christian' now???



 
Matthew 19:11-12
 11.  Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given.
 12.  For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage  because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."
 
1 Corinthians 7:1-2
 1.  Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry.
 2.  But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.
 
1 Corinthians 7:8-9
 8.  Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am.
 9.  But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
 
 
 1 Corinthians 7:27-29
 27.  Are you married? Do not seek a divorce. Are you unmarried? Do not look for a wife.
 28.  But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.

8 posted on 10/22/2009 4:22:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...

Ping


9 posted on 10/22/2009 11:16:23 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObaMugabe is turning this country into another Zimbabwe as fast as he can with MEDIA'S help.)
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To: Colofornian
""You answer the first question when you say the story makes its way around the world. And as a prominent source of LDS Church news, it is safe to say a proxy baptism and sealing of a Catholic saint to a wife is a story Salt Lake Tribune readers would want to read. If we were to choose to not report it, I would have to ask: Are we fulfilling our commitment to readers?"

Gee, it sounds like the Tribune has become the mormon church's Fox News, doesn't it?

....Hearing the same kinds of complaints that Fox is hearing from Obama.

"But then, realizing that his own ultimate bosses are to blame for the Trib not readily having that info available, Campbell concedes: The church may not answer many of these questions"...

Uh-uh, sounds like the Obama administration....

10 posted on 10/22/2009 11:28:14 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObaMugabe is turning this country into another Zimbabwe as fast as he can with MEDIA'S help.)
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To: greyfoxx39
The church may not answer many of these questions"...

DUH8 sideways!

11 posted on 10/22/2009 12:09:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39

The church may not answer many of these questions”...
___________________________________________

Well the leaders of the mormon religion wont...

But the REAL church of Jesus Christ have been told by God to ALWAYS answer...

But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asks you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: 1 Peter 3:15


12 posted on 10/22/2009 12:47:26 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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