Posted on 10/25/2009 5:37:25 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
By the time BamaKennedy and his wrecking crew get finished with US most will welcome something out of this ‘earth’ to come and save US.
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There’s some deliberateness, premeditation in setting it up that way.
I have wondered how much the two translation might differ (if at all).
Can you comment on any differences between the two?
For anyone interested, here is a link to the online translation of Enoch I by Knibbs...
A Modern English Translation of the Ethiopian Book of Enoch
I gather you still think that UFO garbage you post is rational, Quix?
INDEED.
WOOP WOOP.
You might wait a long time.
Scripture is mostly silent. Arguing from silence, as Walter Martin asserted . . . is a foolish exercise.
On the other hand, Guy Malone’s research
available at
is quite scholarly and conclusive, imho . . . his panel’s analsysis of Genesis and other passages convinces me . . . somewhat reluctantly that all of them currently known for flitting about . . . are fallen angels.
Certainly that’s what they act like. They are NOT God’s angels. They ARE in cahoots with satan toward establishing the global government.
Given that last point, it does NOT MATTER if they are citizens of distant planets or fallen angels or a mixture.
After eliminating rational explanations for 95% or so of UFO reports, there remains residual UFOs (RUFOs). The challenge is to explain these.
Interstellar travel is shown to be practically impossible, thus eliminating extraterrestrial explanations.
RUFOs exhibit the ability to defy the laws of physics in various ways, which argues strongly for a demonic (fallen angel) explanation.
Additionally, the authors conclude that one's self-exposure to occult practices permits this access by demons.
as greys will . . .
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Ahhhhh Petronski, y’all do NOT REALLY NEED to display total ignorance about greys, TOOOOOOOOO!
INDEED.
Sounds like you NEED
to read up on the topic a GREAT DEAL MORE
before you run into one and get snookered.
Remember . . . Paul said that if any other creature came preaching any other Gospel, consider him accursed.
THEY DO.
Remember . . . we are exhorted to test the spirits and any critter that doesn’t admit, believe that Jesus came in the flesh . . . . etc.
is to be accursed.
THEY FAIL ON BOTH COUNTS.
AMEN!
Yeah,
a rash of the rabidly hostile naysaying cliques have been descending on such threads with their usual clueless ignorant derision, sounding as stupid as ever.
Somebody tell Louis Farrakhan to stay off Free Republic. The only fallen Angels on Earth will be revealed either tonight or tomorrow night in the Bronx.
The parallel traits, qualities, behaviors, features that Guy Malone’s group at
document are quite significant, imho.
WELL SAID.
Don’t you think you’ve spammed that commercial site on this thread enough for one day?
What’s your cut?
This is taken off the bottom of my home page.
She does not respect greatly, IIRC, the other versions of the Book of Enoch.
The links work there:
ALAMO-GIRL COMMENTARY ON 1 ENOCH:
To: RegulatorCountry; Quix
Thank you so much for your reply and your question!
How do you perceive 1 Enoch, in relation to God? I view it as a very useful means of gaining added understanding, regarding Biblical passages that have been rendered somewhat cryptic due to its exclusion, and find this approach valid due to the clear esteem in which this writing was held by numerous Biblical figures, including Apostles and Jesus Christ himself.
I pulled the following excerpt from this link a few years back. You can still see the article here.:
The Book of Enoch (also known as 1 Enoch) was once cherished by Jews and Christians alike, this book later fell into disfavor with powerful theologians-precisely because of its controversial statements on the nature and deeds of the fallen angels...
The theme of the Book of Enoch dealing with the nature and deeds of the fallen angels so infuriated the later Church fathers that one, Filastrius, actually condemned it openly as heresy (Filastrius, Liber de Haeresibus, no. 108). Nor did the rabbis deign to give credence to the book’s teaching about angels. Rabbi Simeon ben Jochai in the second century A.D. pronounced a curse upon those who believed it (Delitzsch, p. 223).
So the book was denounced, banned, cursed, no doubt burned and shredded-and last but not least, lost (and conveniently forgotten) for a thousand years. But with an uncanny persistence, the Book of Enoch found its way back into circulation two centuries ago.
In 1773, rumors of a surviving copy of the book drew Scottish explorer James Bruce to distant Ethiopia. True to hearsay, the Book of Enoch had been preserved by the Ethiopic church, which put it right alongside the other books of the Bible...
Though it was once believed to be post-Christian (the similarities to Christian terminology and teaching are striking), recent discoveries of copies of the book among the Dead Sea Scrolls found at Qumran prove that the book was in existence before the time of Jesus Christ. But the date of the original writing upon which the second century B.C. Qumran copies were based is shrouded in obscurity. It is, in a word, old...
There is abundant proof that Christ approved of the Book of Enoch. Over a hundred phrases in the New Testament find precedents in the Book of Enoch.
Another remarkable bit of evidence for the early Christians’ acceptance of the Book of Enoch was for many years buried under the King James Bible’s mistranslation of Luke 9:35, describing the transfiguration of Christ: “And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, ‘This is my beloved Son: hear him.” Apparently the translator here wished to make this verse agree with a similar verse in Matthew and Mark. But Luke’s verse in the original Greek reads: “This is my Son, the Elect One (from the Greek ho eklelegmenos, lit., “the elect one”): hear him.”
The “Elect One” is a most significant term (found fourteen times) in the Book of Enoch. If the book was indeed known to the apostles of Christ, with its abundant descriptions of the Elect One who should “sit upon the throne of glory” and the Elect One who should “dwell in the midst of them,” then the great scriptural authenticity is accorded to the Book of Enoch when the “voice out of the cloud” tells the apostles, “This is my Son, the Elect One”-the one promised in the Book of Enoch.
The Book of Jude tells us in vs. 14 that “Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied...” Jude also, in vs. 15, makes a direct reference to the Book of Enoch (2:1), where he writes, “to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly...” ...
Many of the early church fathers also supported the Enochian writings. Justin Martyr ascribed all evil to demons whom he alleged to be the offspring of the angels who fell through lust for women (from the Ibid.)-directly referencing the Enochian writings.
Athenagoras, writing in his work called Legatio in about 170 A.D., regards Enoch as a true prophet. He describes the angels which “violated both their own nature and their office.” In his writings, he goes into detail about the nature of fallen angels and the cause of their fall, which comes directly from the Enochian writings.
Many other church fathers: Tatian (110-172); Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons (115-185); Clement of Alexandria (150-220); Tertullian (160-230); Origen (186-255); Lactantius (260-330); in addition to: Methodius of Philippi, Minucius Felix, Commodianus, and Ambrose of Milanalso-also approved of and supported the Enochian writings...
One by one the arguments against the Book of Enoch fade away. The day may soon arrive when the final complaints about the Book of Enoch’s lack of historicity and “late date” are also silenced by new evidence of the book’s real antiquity.
When I read Scripture, God brings the words alive within me. His words are spirit and life. The words of men are neither spirit nor life.
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. – John 6:63
This does not happen (yet) when I read I Enoch and therefore I do not consider it Scripture even though I am drawn in the Spirit to read it.
In a nutshell, I know it is important if only for background on Genesis 6 and prophecy.
Oh, and I do not recall the crevo thread. I’ve been around since ‘98 and have been on many of them. But if I run into it again, I’ll let you know.
55 posted on Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:52:42 PM by Alamo-Girl
You are poorly informed on the topic.
Abductees as a group tend to be:
1. slightly but significantly above average in IQ
2. from all walks of life . . . including Dr’s, Lawyers, engineers, military officers and enlisted, government officials, UN officials, authors, commercial pilots, . . .
3. They are also slightly but significantly above average in terms of general level of sanity and lack of neuroticism.
4. They do have a slightly elevated Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome score . . . AS ONE WOULD EXPECT, DOH!
5. There may be a greater percentage with more creativity and “Emotional IQ” than the average population.
INDEED.
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