Bishop John Broadhurst
Posted on 10/26/2009 3:22:02 PM PDT by NYer
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Members of the traditionalist Anglican group Forward in Faith recently concluded their annual gathering, which was dedicated to discussing Pope Benedict's overture to Anglicans. The general impression left by the conference was the “Anglican experiment is over,” a mood that was reinforced by Bishop John Hind officially announcing he is ready to become Catholic.
The 2009 National Assembly of Forward in Faith was held in the Emmanuel Centre, Westminster, London, October 23-24. The Assembly was originally scheduled before the Vatican announced its unprecedented move, but the issue dominated most of the discussion.
Speaking to the press during the event, the Right Reverend John Hind, Anglican Bishop of Chichester, announced he is considering becoming a Roman Catholic.
Hind, the most senior traditionalist in the Church of England, told “The Telegraph” that he is willing to sacrifice his salary and palace residence to join the Catholic Church.
“This is a remarkable new step from the Vatican,” he said. “At long last there are some choices for Catholics in the Church of England. I'd be happy to be re-ordained into the Catholic Church.”
The bishop said that he expects his previous ministry will be recognized in the Catholic Church, but stressed that the divisions in the Anglican Communion could make it impossible to stay. “How can the Church exist if bishops are not in full communion with each other?” he asked.
During the conference, the Right Reverend John Broadhurst, who is the Anglican Bishop of Fulham and the Primate of Forward in Faith, affirmed that “the Anglican experiment is over.”
Bishop Broadhurst said that Pope Benedict has made his offer in response to the pleas of Anglicans who despair at the disintegration of their Church. “Anglicanism has become a joke because it has singularly failed to deal with any of its contentious issues,” said the bishop.
“There is widespread dissent across the [Anglican] Communion. We are divided in major ways on major issues and the Communion has unraveled. I believed in the Church I joined, but it has been revealed to have no doctrine of its own. I personally think it has gone past the point of no return. The Anglican experiment is over.”
In an emotional closing speech on Saturday, Bishop Broadhurst used the metaphor of the frog and the boiling pot to describe the current Anglican status.
"The temperature at the pot has become intolerable, but the process of boiling started before the ordination of women… The truth is, the tragedy for us is the Church of England has presumed. It's presumed to know better than the tradition on many matters and it's presumed to know better than Jesus Christ about some matters,” he explained.
“And It is the presumption of our Church in this present period that has caused such pain and anguish to many of us.
“Oh yes, the ordination of women was the water being turned up; we knew that we were going to be cooked to death ...
“And what the general (Anglican) Synod did, was to say, ‘We will push the pot towards the edge of the gas, as long as you stay on this side of the pot, with a few ice cubes, it'll be all right,’” Bishop Broadhurst said.
Then he explained: “We've never claimed that Anglicanism is the Church of Jesus Christ, and we've always claimed and believed that there needs to be catholic unity.”
“This is about Anglicans in communion with Rome and not about Anglicans ceasing to be Roman Catholics,” he also said.
The Right Reverend Martyn Jarrett, Anglican Bishop of Beverley, also insisted on the fact that “there are questions over the church's survival,” explaining that the Church of England has changed too dramatically for some traditionalists.
“The offer from the Vatican is momentous and I felt a great sense of gratitude that the Roman Catholic Church is thinking about the position of traditionalist Anglicans,” he added.
Another participant at the “Forward in Faith” conference, Fr. Edward Tomlinson, Anglican Vicar of St. Barnabas, said that he would be following the lead of Bishop Hind.
“The ship of Anglicanism seems to be going down... We should be grateful that a lifeboat has been sent. I shall be seeking to move to Rome. To stay in the Church of England would be suicide,” Fr. Tomlinson said.
Forward in Faith is a worldwide association of close to 1,000 clergy and thousands of lay Anglicans founded in 1992 in opposition to the ordination of women as priests or as bishops, and most recently, to the ordination of active homosexuals. The association says that it finds such practices not only “contrary to the Scriptures as they have been consistently interpreted by the two thousand year tradition of the churches of both East and West,” but also as a “new and serious obstacle in the way of reconciliation and full visible unity between Anglicans and the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches.”
I believe you are referring to Fr. Bartholomew Leon, O.S.B. He is bi-ritual and a veritable dynamo. He probably won't remember me. At one time, he hosted a Maronite group before the invention of blogs. Fr. Dwight Longenecker did a post on him a few years ago, here.
Folk Masses were in vogue when I was a small child..still do not like them though I grew up with them.
Sad to say I do know remember anything about the Latin Tridentine Mass.
(I am 45 years old)
He’s the one! :)
That is a point that I have never understood as well. It is time for me to petition to be admitted to the Catholic Church as well. I have been procrastinating too long as it is.
No, I am not an Anglican. I am not much of anything.
What a shame! The Latin Mass is incredibly beautiful. http://www.latinmass.org/faq.html
http://web2.airmail.net/~carlsch/MaterDei/churches.htm#massachusetts
The second link states it is for MA, but it contains much more.
The Tridentine Mass can still be said, and it is very beautiful, especially High Mass.
I love how they do it on EWTN. (The daily masses the Brothers say...it’s a mix of both English and Latin)
The homo Bishops will be threatening to boil RC converts in hot KY over this one.
Naw, just ‘homophobes’. ;)
Short answer: No.
What he said!!!
Then they can jolly well mince over the Tiber in the other direction, and join the gay agnostics, neo-druids, happy-clappy holy rollers and crew-cut priestesses in the C of E.
This is wonderful news and we welcome our Anglican brethren into our wonderful Catholic Church..The bottom line is that we all have the same God, and Jesus and the Holy Spirit, and many of our religious practices are nearly the same...The world may be falling apart in some areas but this overture by Pope Benedict XVI must be very welcome in Heaven and on earth..Tensions will ease and Rome and England will be reconciled at long last..Thanks be to God !
>>>If it were up to me, guitars would be banned from Mass. :-)
As a compromise maybe you could keep the guitars but instead ban the Bob Dylan and Woodie Guthrie catalogs ?
This is almost certainly not going to be the case.
Why do you say that?
**They will be following the Anglican Use Rite.**
***This is almost certainly not going to be the case.***
Yes, it is. You are correct that the current “Book of Divine Worship” will probably not be used. But that is because a new missal is being worked on now and is supposed to be ready by Christmas. I heard about it at church on Sunday (St. Mary the Virgin Anglican Use Catholic). It will be influenced by the English Missal (Knott Missal), the American Missal, the Sarum Rite, and the Coverdale translation of the (Tridentine) Roman Canon, all very English and all very Catholic.
Interesting! I don’t see the BCP in your list of sources; is the new Anglican Use going to be essentially a Sarum/Tridentine sort of rite in dignified KJV English?
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