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Trusting Dems, any Dems, to be moral is a huge mistake.

There is no trust here. On the contrary, this has turned into a vise around Mme. Pelosi. As Hudson notes in the closing paragraph:

As for the person who started this ball rolling, Pelosi finds herself in a box of her own making. She can't weaken the amendment language without losing a good number of Democratic House votes, as well as that of the lone Republican, Rep. Joseph Cao (R-LA). And the U.S. bishops would consider it a betrayal of the highest order if the health-care bill, containing their much-desired public option, is defeated by a Catholic speaker trying to make good on her promises to the abortion lobby.

Caught between a rock and a hard place.

4 posted on 11/12/2009 3:28:43 PM PST by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
Caught between a rock and a hard place.

I wish that were true, but its more like a rock and a wide open field. The Dems will vote for it no matter what, whether the amendment is there or isn't there.

The worst case for them is that they won't get to kill extra babies. But the most likely scenario is that it will pass with restrictions that will then be pulled out or overturned by SCOTUS.

7 posted on 11/12/2009 6:11:40 PM PST by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: NYer
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8 posted on 11/12/2009 9:02:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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