Skip to comments.Mormons and Gays Find Common Ground in Utah
Posted on 11/13/2009 4:39:22 AM PST by Colofornian
(RNS) With the passage Tuesday (Nov. 10) of nondiscrimination laws in Salt Lake City that expand gay rights, Mormon officials and gay activists have found a patch of common ground.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and gay organizations both advocated for the laws, which prevent discrimination in housing and employment.
The Sutherland Institute, a Salt Lake City-based conservative think tank, expressed disappointment in the church's action.
"As a public relations opportunity, the LDS church's statement before the Salt Lake City Council may assuage the minds and soften the hearts of advocates of 'gay rights' in Utah," the institute said. "As a policy statement, it is problematic. The approved ordinances before the Salt Lake City Council are unsound in principle, clarity, and effect."
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Et tu, Brute?
I'm kidding, Mormons! :)
I think the LDS church made a HUGE error here ... they probably think the Qs will call off the harassment now ... fat chance they are only emboldened.
Indeed, the most viewed article in the past 12 hours at the Salt Lake City Tribune is article headlined, "LDS apostle: SLC gay-rights measures could work for state"
An excerpt from that article makes me wonder if the LDS church is going to take its P.R. dog & pony show on the road & try to influence similar legislation & ordinances around the country:
The LDS Church's unexpected endorsement of two Salt Lake City gay-rights measures has many observers wondering if another surprise could follow: a friendlier reception in the 2010 Legislature for such protections statewide. Even an LDS apostle -- continuing the string of stunners --thinks Salt Lake City's ordinances could be a model. "Anything good is shareable," Elder Jeffrey R. Holland said in an interview Wednesday, referring to Salt Lake City's new policy aimed at protecting gay and transgender residents from discrimination.
Because if homosexuals can have "normal" rights, so can the polygamists.
Homosexuals rode on the backs of slaves to get their agenda passed. Mormons can ride the backs of homosexuals to get their agenda passed as well.
There can't be favoritism in the law for one sexual dysfunction over another. If homosexuals can marry or have civil unions, why can't polygamists have more than one wife or receive civil union benefits for all those they choose to live with, too?
As far as polygamy is concerned, this is a smart move for a Mormon church in Utah. Now the homosexuals can pay them back when it's their turn to go to court for their rights.
I don't approve of either personally. I don't want either anywhere near me or my family. I think they're all insane perverts.
Honestly, ldsers have caved on many important issues (according to their own tenants).
I am honored to have a God that Who is the same yesterday today and will be tomorrow.
I don’t think it’s especially controversial that gays should be treated with respect. Where the controversy comes in is when they demand special treatment - (eg. changing the ages old definition of marriage).
are mormans courthing gays now.....i thought this was fed law?
Respect? Why? What have they done to earn respect? Did I miss something?
Utah is well known for it's Mormon polygamy. They have a lot in common with homos and their quest to redefine marriage.
Not all Mormons are on this quest, but there are still as many polygamists out there as there are homosexuals - probably many more.
I think you respect people by default. Until they do something to lose it. Not the other way around.
At least you didn’t change the headline this time. I see where that spanking you got from the Admin Moderator for altering facts to fit your agenda must have worked.
Wrong. That's the liberal view. Courtesy is given by default, but respect is earned. The Mormon Church has just given its stamp of approval to homos, thereby reaping the condemnation of Romans 1:32
". . . the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them."
Ahh, the Magical Mormon Revelation Machine is once again in operation.
Though sometimes it works for good....
Polygamy is good. No, wait, we have had a revelation that it’s bad. [Translation: We want to be a state]
Blacks are cursed. No wait, we had a revelation that they are not bad. [Translation: We don’t want to be seen as rascist]
Gays are evil. No, wait, we had a revelation that they are really OK! [Translation: we don’t want to be seen as homophobes]
They did do something to lose it. They acted out on their perverted thoughts and then tried to force the rest of us to accept and respect them. Even worse, they're teaching their "indiscretions" to Americas children.
I don't respect rapists, either, or those who do animals. Something just isn't right with these people. They need to seek help rather than warm objects, and no way do they deserve "respect."
Give me a break!
The comments of Utahns in other websites are interesting...
1. There’s an embarassing movie about Prop 8 that will be shown at Sundance (that should be January I think)
2. Paving the way for polygamy coming out of the closet..
3. What will the Morg do now that gays can buy those over priced over looking condos downtown ???
4. Did the Morg even think about that possibilty..
5. General dismay and questions of possible apostacy of the Morg leaders...
You speak in total ignorance. But since you won't give it up, I typed in the exact headline I saw. (No changes). On both news threads. I did absolutely nothing different than I haven't done on any other thread-posting. Did I double-check to see if I inserted a typo? (No) You keep insisting that some deep-dark change was inserted into the text. It wasn't.
The lesson learned? The AM said I should have cut&pasted. And he's right. If you want to avoid even being off by a letter, cut & paste. Since I didn't keep up what I posted to go back & check where I was off-base, I can't even tell you. But based upon my record of accuracy & removal of a harmless thread yesterday removed for no apparent reason, I can conscientiously say I still don't think I was in error on anything; but since I'm human, I'm not going to fall upon a sword by claiming perfection.
You, on the other hand stand by your mistakes. You've said twice in the last 6 days on these threads that you want your open bigotry toward Muslims to become law of the land & want all Muslims kicked out of the American military. Is this something you recommend for all European military forces as well?
Then you have the gall to highlight three times that I made some typo. Take the Muslim beam of bigotry out of your own eye before you try to correct my sliver typos.
Wonder when we will see...
Women are slaves. No wait, we had a revelation that they are not slaves. They are equal with men. [Translation: We dont want to be seen as sexist. We want the tithe money from all those single Moms]