Skip to comments.Did Neanderthals Have Sex with Modern Humans?
Posted on 11/13/2009 5:05:13 PM PST by HarleyD
We are currently the only human species alive, but as recently as 24,000 years ago another one walked the earth the Neanderthals.
These extinct humans were the closest relatives we had, and tantalizing new hints from researchers suggest that we might have been intimately close indeed. The mystery of whether Neanderthals and us had sex might be solved if the entire Neanderthal genome is reported soon as expected. The matter of why they died and we succeeded, however, remains an open question.
Maybe not nasty and brutish, but still short
Why did Neanderthals go extinct?
Roughly 30,000 years ago, the Neanderthals disappeared, although pockets might have survived until as recently as 24,000 years ago. Since they vanished just as modern humans were emerging there, scientists have long speculated that we might have driven their extinction.
"I think we did away with our competition," asserted paleoanthropologist Ian Tattersall at the American Museum of Natural History in New York. "We either did it indirectly by out-competing them over resources or directly by conflict. Homo sapiens is completely different from any other hominid that ever existed we process information about the world in a different way."
Other scientists have suggested that Neanderthals weren't destroyed so much as absorbed by modern humans. "Maybe they were wiped out by disease or by conquerors, but maybe they did leave important genes into our gene pool," said paleoanthropologist Milford Wolpoff at the University of Michigan.
Paleoanthropologist Tim Weaver at the University of California at Davis also noted that our species apparently could live at higher population densities than Neanderthals. As a result, this slight difference, with or without interbreeding, would have led to us replacing them.
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The questions in these passages is 1) where did these other people come from for Cain to marry, and 2) what is meant by the sons of God versus the women of men? Could these be the Neanderthals-another race of creatures but not on the same level and God-breathed beings?
Of course they did. Remember Bill and Monica?
No doubt. Ted Kennedy and various human waitresses...
LOL!!! One was a neanderthal. One was an intern.
Had beer been invented yet?
There is an interesting Christian fiction series on Nephilum. Very distracting stuff tho, like the end times, easy to lose focus of your primary mission.
Cue photo of Helen Thomas.
See the thread posted a little earlier “The Greatest Friday night mugshot I’ve ever seen on ‘The Smoking Gun’”
There you will see the child born of this loving union.
“Roughly 30,000 years ago, the Neanderthals disappeared, although pockets might have survived until as recently as 24,000 years ago. Since they vanished just as modern humans were emerging there, scientists have long speculated that we might have driven their extinction.”
“driven their extinction”/ What run over by a SUV?
Now that doesn't mean the stories themselves don't have a very early ~ even Ice Age ~ origin, but there are few such tales. (Lot, his wife and the visit to the area of Sodom may be such a story).
Eventually some smart guys somewhere will figure out the references to this one.
Democrats are Exhibit A.
My wife, a “Modern Human”, says her Neanderthal does.
Stop the insulting of neanderthals!
They are people too.
They sell insurance Geico insurance..
According to my wife the answer is “Yes”. And as recently as days ago.
And I still do as often as she wants me to.
don’t forget Paris Hilton...
Yes, but only after drinking too much.
You really have to make that photo morph into a neanderthal. I mean it’s already so close...
Perfect way to explain Bozo and his “wookie” stinking up the White House!
Is that how we got ‘Me-shell’? Just wonderin’.
Hey, I never touched one. Honest. Well, maybe that time during my teen years, but I had too much to drink.
Ever look at a snowboarder?
Red Hair is a Neanderthal trait.
Anyone who carries the HLA-B27 genetic defect (Ankylosing Spondylitis) is also a descendant of a Neanderthal.
I'm lucky, I got both.
The Noords were also descendants of the Neanderthals, and I remind you all on this thread that the Noord's raped, pillaged and plundered most of modern day Europe, so if you have European descent in your bloodline, you're all a bunch of Neanderthals too!
USC - A proud knuckle-dragging, cromagnum Neanderthal descendant.
Cue her? Hell, just ASK her! She was probably around back then.
OK, now for the redhead photos. Isn’t Kucinich’s wife Lizabeth a redhead?
That explains the Kennedy clan...
Biblical scholars seem to agree that Cain married a sister, and that marriages between brothers and sisters were common early on.
It wasn’t forbidden until Leviticus.
It is ghastly for us to think about, but as caveats, remember that people were living hundreds of years then; so brothers and sisters were not necessarily raised together. Also, presumably the progressive genetic damage we are all inheriting was not yet present, so genetic problems were not as likely at all.
I never left the Phi Sigma Sigma house without a chick, as long as I brought along raw mutton.
That's not a neanderthal, that's a damn' alien!!!
It may well be that some biblical scholars agree but it does not add up to what we are told about what Cain did. And have you noticed how closely the names of Cain's genealogy are to those of the Adam's genealogy?
Notice what is written in Genesis 4:14 "..... Behold, Thou has driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from Thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that everyone that findeth me shall slay me."
Why would Cain be worried about 'everyone' and not his immediate family if only his immediate family were the only peoples on this earth? No other children are recorded by Adam and Eve until after Cain left the area. And I agree we do not know how many other children Adam and Eve had, only the genealogy listed in chapter 5 leading up to Noah.
It’s not all bad; I recall reading that Neanderthals actually had larger brains than modern humans. Interbreeding might explain the glorious European schnozzola.
Just a theory, don't hate on me.
Did Neanderthals Have Sex with Modern Humans?
I am not convinced that those Neanderthal genes are extinct at all. Over the years as I went to work, from time to time I would observe some men—oddly enough, it was never women—on the subway who had a distinct resemblance to the drawings of cavemen that I have seen. Sometimes I would see one who complemented the facial looks with mass amounts of dark hair emanating from his shirt cuffs.
No, they still walk among us.
It is understood by many exegetes that the sons of God were the lineage of Seth, and the daughter of men were from the lineage of Cain. The descendants of Adam and Eve married their siblings. The Neanderthal DNA was too different from Cro-Magnon DNA for them to have produced viable offspring.
I think I might have dated a few during my single days!
Interesting observation. One might wander among the hills of Tennessee or Afghanistan and see folks that, shall we say, differ more in appearance than the average? Am I agreeing with the Neanderthal theory? Not quite. But there are many unknowns.
Re: Bawney Fwanks - could be that’s why the species died out? No reproduction, no continuation of the species.
Very interesting. God, that Bible....
From a brief article from Answers In Genesis:
“Since the Bible describes all human beings as sinners, and we are all related (And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, Acts 17:26), the gospel makes sense only on the basis that all humans alive and all that have ever lived (except for the first woman6 ) are descendants of the first man Adam. If this were not so, then the gospel could not be explained or defended.
Thus, there was only one man at the beginningmade from the dust of the earth (Genesis 2:7).
This also means that Cains wife was a descendant of Adam. She couldnt have come from another race of people and must be accounted for from Adams descendants.”
for the full article, reasonably succinct - here is a link:
They make the very solid theological point that only sons of Adam can be saved. There is only a plan of salvation for those who fell, who were Adam’s posterity.
I would, of course, agree with you. There is only ONE descendant from Adam. The point being, at least according to this article, is that homo sapiens were completely different, and processed information differently (perhaps divinely), than the neanderthals. It could be safely argued that those descendants, the descendants of Adam, made it through the Great Flood. The rest would have perished. And there wouldn't be a conflict with the text as the scriptures may be abscribing "the race of men" to homo sapiens.
Interesting observation. One might wander among the hills of Tennessee or Afghanistan and see folks that, shall we say, differ more in appearance than the average? Am I agreeing with the Neanderthal theory? ... many unknowns.
The word ‘blood’ was added in Acts 17:26. And there are two different days of flesh beings created/formed in Genesis 1 and 2.
Of course they had sex together. The question is whether they had children as a result.