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To: mlizzy
If all faiths came Home to the Living Eucharist, then to love, honor, and adore Mary wouldn't be out of place for anyone.

My denomination is not a faith...We have no faith in our church...All our faith is in our risen Savior...

We have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ...There is nothing we could get out of putting a cracker in our mouths that would increase that personal relationship...

We have the same Spirit (part of the Trinity) within us that your popes claim to have guiding them and the same Spirit that raised Jesus to Heaven...

What's the point in a wafer that goes into and through your system in 20 minutes??? How does Jesus get from your intestines to your soul???

Well more than half of all Catholics don't believe that your wine and bread turns into the flesh and blood of Jesus...I'd guess many of you guys are Catholics because you were born into it and many more are Catholics because of the sense of the religious surroundings, ie, the priests with the robes, the beautiful building, paintings, chants, etc...

Our faith in Jesus is a simple faith...It is us, and Jesus...Can you have a relationship with Jesus without all that 'religion'???

37 posted on 12/13/2009 11:09:24 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
Well more than half of all Catholics don't believe that your wine and bread turns into the flesh and blood of Jesus...I'd guess many of you guys are Catholics because you were born into it and many more are Catholics because of the sense of the religious surroundings, ie, the priests with the robes, the beautiful building, paintings, chants, etc...

So? Because some people don't believe something therefore it's not true? Because many are called, but few chosen, there is something wrong with the call or the chosen ones? Because there are bad Catholics, there are no good Catholics? What does the immature or even absent faith of some, even of many, have to do with anything? Clearly a great number of Americans do not believe the founding ideas of the Constitution or the Declaration. That's a reflection on them, not on the founding documents.

Besides, have you SEEN any of the buildings lately? The average modern catholic church is a monstrosity!

And, you know what. I don't believe it when Protestants ask, "How does Jesus get from your intestines to your soul???" If they really wanted to know, they could find out pretty easily. I mean the thinking is not exactly a no-brainer, but we don't hide it either. The question has been asked more than once in the past couple of millennia.

And, as to simple faith and all that, it is no where required to understand the thinking realted to Eucharistic doctrine. It is enough to believe, to take Jesus at His word.

You may recall He did NOT say, "This is a representation, a symbol, the virtual presence, a reminder, a sign of my body."

He is reported to have said, τουτο εστιν το σομα μου. Yes, I know he probably spoke Aramaic, but the Bible being inspired and our faith being simple and all, we're not going to try to reconstruct the Aramaic. We'll accept what is given, an that is, simply, This is my body.

And, simply, because He said: "τουτο ποιειτε εις την εμην αναμνησιν," we do it.

We are too simple to claim that NOT doing it is obedient to the Lord whose commands we trust. We are too simple to claim that when He says it "is" a thing, our scholars and thinkers can tell us it isn't really what He said it is, and He didn't say what the Bible says he said.

39 posted on 12/13/2009 12:56:59 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Iscool
What's the point in a wafer that goes into and through your system in 20 minutes??? How does Jesus get from your intestines to your soul???

We didn't invent it. Why do you suppose Jesus came up with such a strange ritual?

Your idea, that he was prescribing that we eat a cracker to remember him by, is no less odd. Why eat a cracker? Why should a cracker remind me of Jesus? Why not a steak, or a slice of apple? Why eat anything at all?

Stop second-guessing God, and go with what he gave you.

56 posted on 12/13/2009 10:13:44 PM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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