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The Perils of Celibacy: Clerical Celibacy and Marriage in Early Protestant Perspective
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| John Witte Jr
Posted on 12/14/2009 11:06:25 AM PST by the_conscience
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To: Poe White Trash; T Minus Four; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD
This is a great article that shows the root problem with Romanism, that is, the pagan notion of a heirarchy of being that informs all Romanist theology as shown through the specfic problem of clerical celibacy.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:09:25 AM PST
by
the_conscience
(I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
To: the_conscience
Let's summarize: "Clerical celibacy is wrong because men are beasts who can't control themselves. We have the word of a noted 16th century clerical horndog for that."
Teenage celibacy is wrong, too. Christians should encourage hooking up. /s
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:13:46 AM PST
by
Campion
("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
To: Campion
Did you even read the article?
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:14:52 AM PST
by
the_conscience
(I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
To: the_conscience
That old canard is raised once again - that somehow if Catholic Priests were “married” that those few that sexually abused children (really homosexuals abusing boys) would somehow have been avoided. Nonsense.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:16:33 AM PST
by
PGR88
To: PGR88
Are you going to give an argument or just make an assertion?
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:17:57 AM PST
by
the_conscience
(I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
To: PGR88
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:18:15 AM PST
by
Chunga
(Any IDIOT who says Obama would be better for the country than McCain is a disgrace - Mark Levin)
To: the_conscience
Did you even read the article? What? Did he read the article? What kind of a question is that? How insulting! How dare you ask him a question like that! Did he read the article???
Er, well, no, actually he probably didn't.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:20:39 AM PST
by
Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
(Conservatives unite behind conservative Republicans in the primaries!)
To: the_conscience
They should let married men be priests; they’re reliable, stable, and for the most part, celibate.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:21:17 AM PST
by
Spok
To: Spok
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:22:46 AM PST
by
the_conscience
(I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
To: the_conscience
Yes, and I repeat Campion’s comments.
This is a poorly framed argument with little objective basis to support it.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:22:48 AM PST
by
Notwithstanding
(Wer glaubt ist nie allein. Who believes is never alone.)
To: the_conscience
Yes, I did. I'm sorry I wasted my time.
The "men can't be expected to live this way; let's bend the rules" argument is the same one made by the early Mormons on behalf of polygamy.
Check out the numbers on adultery among Protestant clergy. It ain't pretty.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:23:26 AM PST
by
Campion
("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
To: the_conscience
Thank God you’re not describing the Catholic Church.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:23:55 AM PST
by
Petronski
(In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
To: Notwithstanding
Nice assertion. Anything more?
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:24:07 AM PST
by
the_conscience
(I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
To: Spok
They should let married men be priests; they’re reliable, stable, and for the most part, celibate. LOL.
I'm okay with ordaining married men. I'm only not okay with the idea that sexual continence is not something that ought to be expected of Christians, which is what this article amounts to.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:25:28 AM PST
by
Campion
("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
To: the_conscience
Lifelong celibacy is impractical,unnatural and,ultimately,harmful to the Church.Periodic celibacy,as practiced in Eastern Rite Churches seems good...a symbolic acknowledgment that,before God,there's a time and place for everything.
Anything more than that is a recipe for disaster,IMO.
To: Spok
Protestant clergy are at least as guilty of sexual improprieties as are priests.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:26:26 AM PST
by
Notwithstanding
(Wer glaubt ist nie allein. Who believes is never alone.)
To: the_conscience
Check out the numbers on adultery among Protestant clergy. It ain’t pretty.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:27:27 AM PST
by
Notwithstanding
(Wer glaubt ist nie allein. Who believes is never alone.)
To: the_conscience
BTW, Martin Luther managed to see his way clear to performing at least polygamous marriage. Look it up.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:27:40 AM PST
by
Campion
("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
To: Petronski
Thank God you’re not describing the Catholic Church.Indeed! I don't believe we would find any catholic Christian in any Christian denomination that would hold to this heresy.
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posted on
12/14/2009 11:27:55 AM PST
by
the_conscience
(I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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