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Obama And The Four Horsemen Of the Apocalypse.

Posted on 12/15/2009 6:15:00 PM PST by Armaggedon

Seven seals are to be opened for the seven years of tribulation. The anti-Christ kingdom is heading for the crunch at time and times and half a time. The crisis comes at a half year into the time of the fourth horse, which is death. Let us observe what is described in Revelation, step by step.

Revelation 6:1-2.

AND I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying come and see.

And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering and to conquer."

The storm began when Obama was given the crown January 20, 2012 and he immediately began to make a mockery of the Constitution. The White House was now the white horse Obama used to break resistance and conquer the nation.

Revelation 6:3-4.

"And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword."

New horse same rider. Now it is Obama the red engaged in fight and flite. Adrenaline pumped and using the great sword given him through the crown to wreak havic and violance on his enemies. His cry is red or dead. This year begins January 20, 2010.

Revelations 6:5-6.

"And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see, And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barely for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil or wine."

After the violance of the year of the red horse comes the black times of hunger and rationing. The rider of the black horse is redistributing the wealth and what resources are left, but reserves the good oil and wine for himself. You can only buy and sell what Obama allows. Everyone will be marked and subject to the scale. This year begins January 20, 2011.

Revelation 6:7-8.

"And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with beasts of the earth."

In the fourth year at time and times and half a time the body of the anti-Christ hits the wall. They know the crunch is at hand and their kingdom doomed, so they lash out in one last effort to overcome those who love and serve the Lord. This describes the final battle of the body of the anti-Christ. This crisis is reached in the midst of the ride of the pale horse, death. That year begins January 20, 2012.

After the pale horse of death the remaining seals deal with major earth changes, revealing the kingdom of heaven on earth. Apocalypse means unveiling and only those in the Christ Body can pierce the veil beyond time and times and half a time.

Daniel 12:11-12.

"And from the time that the daily sarifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days."

The daily sacrifice was taken away when Obama got the crown in the White House on January 20, 2009.

Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh calls us to overcome and pass through the temple veil He opened for us two thousand years ago. Matthew 4:17.

"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say. Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

TOPICS: Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichrist; antichristendtimes; endtimes
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1 posted on 12/15/2009 6:15:00 PM PST by Armaggedon
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To: Armaggedon

Don’t know as I agree that there is a correlation between the four horsemen of the Apocalypse and Obama other than he is for sure a “road apple”

2 posted on 12/15/2009 6:22:08 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: Armaggedon; Admin Moderator
As a seminary student I had the privilege of studying the Book of Revelation under Dr. George R. of the world's foremost authorities on Eschatology in general and the Book of Revelation in particular (he also wrote a commentary on it).

I have no clue however why you are posting this piece of Scripture or what it has to do with ANYTHING.

3 posted on 12/15/2009 6:22:33 PM PST by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: Armaggedon
The storm began when Obama was given the crown January 20, 2012 and he immediately began to make a mockery of the Constitution

He started doing that after his bogus inauguration THIS year on January 20th.

Note: if 0bama were re-elected in November of 2012, he would not receive any 'crown' until January 20th of 2013.
4 posted on 12/15/2009 6:24:48 PM PST by mkjessup (Dec 15, 1941 - President Franklin D. 0bama signs our surrender on board the Battleship Yamato)
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To: Armaggedon
5 posted on 12/15/2009 6:26:57 PM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: mkjessup

Sorry that was a typo. Crown was given to Obama January 20, 2009.

6 posted on 12/15/2009 6:29:06 PM PST by Armaggedon
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To: Armaggedon

What you’re missing is the mountains falling on the earth, the scorpion like things that sting for months without killing and the two witnesses—all of whom come (among other things) before the antichrist. The two witnesses and who they are will be painfully obvious to everyone—it doesn’t read like a metaphor to me. When the antichrist kills the two witnesses, you will know the it is here.

So the Obama is the antichrist stuff is pretty much nonsense, imho.

7 posted on 12/15/2009 6:29:57 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

John described the anti-Christ made up of a body of many members. Obama is just part of that body and plays a key role.

I John 4:3.

“And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God and this is the spirit of anti-christ, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now slresdy is it in the world.”

8 posted on 12/15/2009 6:41:37 PM PST by Armaggedon
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To: Armaggedon
You were saying ...

The daily sacrifice was taken away when Obama got the crown in the White House on January 20, 2009.

Sorry, there is no daily sacrifice right now, as there is no Temple in Jerusalem right now.

When the Third Temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem, and the sacrifices are started up again -- then the one mentioned in Daniel will put a stop to the daily sacrifices, at the mid-point of the Tribulation time.

At this point in time, we're not even in the Tribulation time the last seven years, which were allocated to Israel -- just before the return of the Messiah of Israel to set up the Kingdom on this earth.

The Tribulation has not started, the one spoken about in Daniel is not here, and the sacrifices have not started yet, as there is no Third Temple yet and thus, the sacrifices have not been "stopped" yet, either... :-)

The Bible and its prophecies don't have to do with the United States, they have to do with Israel. I would be looking over in Israel for the fulfillment of these prophecies, not to the President of the United States or even the country of the United States.

9 posted on 12/15/2009 6:48:01 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Armaggedon
It was suggested years and years ago that when the Disciple John saw the Revelatory visions of which he wrote, that THIS image might have been one of the ones he saw:
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Of course, the USS Hawkbill (SSN-666) was decommissioned in 2000 after 30+ years of service, but a person nearly 2000 years ago who had never heard of or imagined a 'submarine' might well have thought this looked like a 'Beast rising from the sea', FWIW.
10 posted on 12/15/2009 6:52:19 PM PST by mkjessup (Dec 15, 1941 - President Franklin D. 0bama signs our surrender on board the Battleship Yamato)
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To: Towed_Jumper

This is a very nice example of U.S. Centric end times rubbish...

11 posted on 12/15/2009 6:56:15 PM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: massmike

The four jackasses of the Apocalypse?

12 posted on 12/15/2009 6:59:04 PM PST by Flag_This (ACORN delenda est)
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To: mkjessup
...but a person nearly 2000 years ago who had never heard of or imagined a ‘submarine’ might well have thought this looked like a ‘Beast rising from the sea’...”

Maybe this will Apocalyptic literature “the sea” is usually a metaphor for “people”. Thus, a Beast (the Antichrist, etc), rising out of the sea should be construed as a person coming forth out of a nation or people.

Do I think Obama is evil? Yes, as a matter of fact I do. However, one needs to be careful not to interpret Scripture using the daily newspaper (or internet), headlines.

There have been many evil men “rise up out of the sea” throughout history. Obama isn't the first and won't be the last. submarine.

13 posted on 12/15/2009 7:03:47 PM PST by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: Armaggedon

14 posted on 12/15/2009 7:13:15 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Star Traveler
Jesus said the time was at hand when worship would not be in the temple at Jerusalem. John 4:21.

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.”

15 posted on 12/15/2009 7:17:00 PM PST by Armaggedon
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To: Armaggedon

I have been waiting for Obama fatigue to set in. Because I am fatigued by this ass clown.

On the tube/radio every damned day. He just can’t STFU.

16 posted on 12/15/2009 7:21:38 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: Armaggedon

A great deal depends on one’s interpretation of
Revelation and one’s eschatological view. Many view the reference to Israel as literal while others view it as a reference to Believers only rather than a particular nation. Likewise the Temple is interpreted as either literal or not. Those who take a more historical approach - or preterist approach see certain events as having already occurred. Don’t see the Zero as THE anti-Christ myself at this point, but the mania which swept this nation was a taste of things to come most likely. Frightening!

17 posted on 12/15/2009 7:35:49 PM PST by JLLH
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To: Armaggedon

The only problem with that is that the same Bible also describes that the sacrifices are stopped at the mid-point of the Tribulation, in a Temple that is also described as being there...

So, when this same Bible tells us that the sacrifices are going to be stopped at the mid-point of the Tribulation — it’s obvious that to be “stopped” they had to be “started again” prior to that point of being stopped.... :-)

And neither of those things has happened yet, so we’re still waiting for this time to come...

As a side-note here, what is described in Revelation is something future to the time it was written. And it was written around 95 A.D. So, what is being described is future to 95 A.D. We’re still waiting for it to happen (and it will, but it has not yet happened).

18 posted on 12/15/2009 7:37:49 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Armaggedon

Is It Time for The Temple?

by Thomas Ice

The current situation in Israel is one of constant tension and turmoil. Yet in the midst of Arab aggression and opposition, it appears that Jewish interest in rebuilding their Temple continues to grow. In the last few months there have been a number of events that have taken place that appears to be ratcheting up the interest level of the Temple movement in Israel among Jews. One of the more interesting developments has been the reestablishment of the Sanhedrin after 1600 years of absence.

The Sanhedrin

The Sanhedrin was a council of 71 rabbis that governed Israel under Roman rule during the time of Christ near the Temple and continued to function outside of Jerusalem (primarily in Tiberias) until around a.d. 400. The reinstitution of the Sanhedrin is seen as a harbinger for the rebuilding of the Temple and the coming of Messiah. Orthodox Jews believe that a body like the Sanhedrin is needed today to oversee the rebuilding of the Temple and to identify Messiah should he appear on the scene.

The body met for the first time in October 2004 in Tiberias (the place where they last gathered) but now meet monthly in Jerusalem in order to issue rulings on matters related to Israeli Judaism. Their goal is to eventually become the governing body for the modern nation of Israel, which would replace their current social democracy. Orthodox sects are known for following their specific leaders as opposed to valuing unity between themselves. This is why the founding of the Sanhedrin is viewed by many within the Orthodox community as miraculous that causes them to believe that great things are on the horizon for the Jewish people of Israel.

Arnold Fruchtenbaum, a Hebrew Christian scholar has noted the following:

The significance of Israel' s reinstituting the Sanhedrin may be another event that leaves in place the possibility of how the Lord will work out His will with His people. Almost sixty years after a 1900 year absence, the nation of Israel came into existence. Jewish people from the four corners of the world have made aliyah to live in the Land. The Temple Institute in Jerusalem has reconstructed the instruments for Jewish Temple worship; Jewish men determined to be descendants of Aaron, known as the Kohanim, are being trained in ritual practices to serve as Temple priests; and now we have the establishment of an authoritative body to speak to the nation of Israel on matters of Jewish religion. This is significant in light of such passages as Zechariah 12:10 and Hosea 5:15, which speak of a time when the people of Israel will be led into the acceptance of Jesus as their Messiah. The existence of a religious authority for the entire nation will facilitate the multitudes coming to faith.[1]

It is important to note that as a result of the June 2005 meeting of the Sanhedrin, they have issued a call for specific plans to rebuild the Temple. " The Israeli rabbinical council involved with re-establishing the Sanhedrin, is calling upon all groups involved in Temple Mount research to prepare detailed architectural plans for the reconstruction of the Jewish Holy Temple." [2] This demonstrates that increasingly the new Sanhedrin believes that it is taking steps to prepare the modern state of Israel for a new Temple and the coming of Messiah. These stage-setting steps are things that are in concert with the end time events that will take place during a future era known as the tribulation.

In order to specifically carry out the Sanhedrin' s call to prepare architectural plans for rebuilding the Temple, " the group will establish a forum of architects and engineers to begin plans for rebuilding the Temple- a move fraught with religious and political volatility." [3] The Sanhedrin is also " calling on the Jewish people to contribute toward the acquisition of materials for the purpose of rebuilding the Temple- including the gathering and preparation of prefabricated, disassembled portions to be stored and ready for rapid assembly, ' in the manner of King David.' " [4]

Ready To Rebuild

In 1992 Randall Price and I wrote a book about current efforts in Israel to rebuild Israel' s Third Temple called Ready to Rebuild.[5] Frankly, this book was the first in the American Evangelical world to introduce many to the growing Temple movement in Israel. Now, 13 years later, there are even more organizations and Israeli Jews working toward this goal. I recall during a trip to Israel a few years ago our visit to the Temple Institute in West Jerusalem. (This is the group of orthodox Jews who have already reconstructed all of the implements that will be needed for the Third Temple.) The young lady who led our tour of their Institute was questioned by our group as to whether they really believed that a new Temple would actually be built upon the Temple Mount where the Arab Dome of the Rock now stands. She stated very clearly and repeatedly that they were 100% sure that a Jewish Temple would one day be reconstructed upon that Mount. When ask how she thought this would happen, she said that she had no idea but knew that the Lord would bring it to pass in order for the end of days to unfold.

The main problem facing those who would rebuild the Temple is political in nature. Israel recaptured the Old City of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount in the Six-Day War (1967) and then Moshe Diane returned day-to-day control of the Temple Mount to the Muslims. Until Israel comes to the point where they are willing to exercise political control over the Temple Mount, they will not be able to restore the Temple. Increasingly, there are new organizations that arise among the orthodox Jews seeking to regain hegemony over their most holy place.

One of the newer organizations that have recently arisen to join older ones like the Temple Mount Faithful and the Ateret Cohanim is the group called " Revava," led by David Ha' ivri. The goal of Revava is to restore Jewish sovereignty over the Temple Mount. Their tactics include an effort every month to take a group of 10,000 Jews or more up to the Temple Mount.[6] The 35-acre Temple Mount platform is the most volatile real estate upon planet earth. The mere (unsuccessful) attempt by Revava to take 10,000 Jews up to the Temple Mount in order to pray resulted in over 100,000 Muslims in Indonesia rallying " for continued Islamic dominance over the Mount." [7] The police prevented the Jews from ascending to the most holy place in all of Judaism, so they carried on a demonstration near the Temple Mount. " Demonstrators sang songs and danced, and chanted slogans about reclaiming the Mount for Jewish worship. Several Israeli Knesset members delivered speeches about the importance of the Temple Mount to Jewish tradition." [8]

The point that needs to be made is that Israeli Jews are increasingly interested in rebuilding their Temple. It appears that the more the Islamic militants increase their terrorist pressure upon the Jewish nation, the more religious Jews step up their efforts to focus upon rebuilding the Third Temple. " Islamic Jihad issued a press release claiming Jews were planning to ' attack' the Mount, which they would explode the entire region and open an unprecedented confrontation with the ' Zionist entity.' " [9] In fact, on June 6, 2005, when Israel was celebrating the 38th anniversary of Jerusalem' s liberation a number of Jews were allowed to go upon the Temple Mount. This resulted in about 300 Palestinians throwing stones at the Jews. " They came from Al Aqsa, took off their belts, and ran through the Jewish Israeli group to evict them while trying to throw stones," noted a Jewish police spokesman.[10]


In spite of contemporary turmoil, Israel' s Third Temple will one day be rebuild as Dr. Price and I demonstrated in Ready To Rebuild from Daniel 9:24-27; Matthew 24:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:4; Revelation 11:1-2; 13:14- 15. Few observers of world events ever thought Israel would become a nation again, but it did occur in 1948. Yet, there will be a rebuilt temple by the middle of the seven-year tribulation in order to facilitate the fulfillment of Bible prophecy.

I have often taught that the long-awaited permission for the Jews to rebuild their Temple will likely be part of the covenant between Antichrist and Israel that starts the seven-year tribulation after the rapture. It appears to me that the Temple will be rebuilt and supervised supernaturally by the two witnesses during the first half of the tribulation. Since one of the two witnesses will most likely be Elijah, this would mean that the ministry of Elijah should tell us more about the ministry of the two witnesses. Malachi 4:4-5 says, " Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord. An he will restore the hearts of the fathers to their children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the land with a curse." Perhaps the ministry of Elijah, where he will help the Jewish people " get right with God," before the return of the Lord will involve their Third Temple, until commandeered by Antichrist.

Regardless of how the Lord works out the details, His plan will be brought to pass. In the meantime, many of the current events now taking place in and around Jerusalem and the Temple Mount are setting the stage for what will be a string of events that will usher in the second coming of Christ. Meanwhile, the church is looking for the rapture, where Christ will take us in an instance to be with Himself for all eternity. Maranatha!


[1] Arnold Fruchtenbaum, Ariel Ministries Newsletter (Fall 2004/Winter 2005), p. 4.

[2] " New ' Sanhedrin' plans Rebuilding of Temple: Israeli rabbinical body calls for architectural blueprint," (June 8, 2005).

[3] " New ' Sanhedrin.' "

[4] " New ' Sanhedrin.' "

[5] Thomas Ice and Randall Price, Ready To Rebuild: The Imminent Plan to Rebuild the Last Days Temple (Eugene, Org.: Harvest House, 1992).

[6] Aaron Klein, " Temple Mount leaders vow Jewish sovereignty: Group seeking to reclaim Israeli control of site threatens monthly protests" (April 18, 2005).

[7] Klein, " Temple Mount leaders."

[8] Klein, " Temple Mount leaders."

[9] Klein, " Temple Mount leaders

[10] Aaron Klein, " Teens stone Jews at Temple Mount: Hundreds of Palestinians emerge from Al Aqsa mosque to attack" (June 6, 2005).

19 posted on 12/15/2009 7:50:31 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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The crown of dominion of America, the most powerful nation on earth has been handed to Obama a Marxist. America which was founded on divine inspiration under God has been usurped by the progressive humanist cult. The United States of America is not Fiji. Events here are being shaped that will rock the world. Congress is undone and the damage will not be fixed. Once these Obama programs are set in stone they will not go away.

America and Israel are joined in spirit and America as we thought we knew her is being undone. This is a great opportunity to love, serve and praise God. I am not so concerned about the anti-Christ body. It will fail. My concern is to participate in the Body of Christ on earth. We are being blessed by these challenges to grow strong in Christ.

20 posted on 12/15/2009 7:54:20 PM PST by Armaggedon
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