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To: Terry Mross
I haven’t heard brother Joel say anything about charity.

Typically churches don't talk a lot about giving to other charities because usually, as with Lakewood, the church itself is involved in a a lot of charitable works. And He does teach and write about the value of giving in general. So you've got a false premise and a false witness here.

If he told his followers to give to charity they wouldn’t have anything left to give him.

Sorry to see you taking the Pharisee road of accusation and condemnation. Have you never read what the Lord says about passing sentence on another brother?

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Romans 2:1 Therefore thou are inexcusable, O man, whosoever you are that judges: for wherein you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you that judge do the same things.
Romans 2:3 And do you think this, O man, that judges them which do such things, and does the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaks evil of his brother, and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law, and judges the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

179 posted on 12/22/2009 6:44:52 AM PST by Jim 0216
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To: Jim 0216

You tell me not to judge and right after tell me I serve a weak God. I serve Jesus Christ-WHO WAS AND IS GOD.

You came very close to calling Joel Osteen a profit.

Sorry, but I see no difference in the Osteen cult club members than the Obama cult club members. They both start with an “O” and the members follow blindly on words they think they here.

My mother supported Jim Bakker when she could barely buy food. I tried to tell her he was a phony. She lived to see what he was. The same with Jimmy Swaggert. He could cry when he needed to. They taught the plan of salvation and it was still all about the money.

If you want to hear a real man of God listen to Pastor Johnny Hunt from the Woodstock Baptist Church in Woodstock, Georgia. He’s also president of the SBC. He’s been offered T.V. and radio shows and he’s turned them down. He has nothing to do with the money collected at the church. In fact he will tell you the only check he sees is his own. He preaches the plan of salvation and tells you when you’re wrong. And he has stated that Olsteen is not from God. (I’m paraphrasing but I was there when he said it.) With Joel Osteen you can never do wrong. If he told you that you did wrong you’d stop buying his books. He doesn’t want to offend anyone. And that “world” he stands behind is his marketing area.

And again, what about those eyes blinking 80 times a minute? He’s a liar.

I pray someday you will find a real church.


181 posted on 12/22/2009 7:35:02 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a "Second Sons of Liberty".)
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