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Lucifer - The Original Fascist
The Ignorant Fishermen Blog ^ | 12/22/09 | DJP I.F.

Posted on 12/22/2009 2:14:51 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman

"In light of the current fascist tactics that are being used by the Democratic Leftist Party on the National Health Care Legislation."

Liberal Fascism, a book by Jonah Goldberg, is a must read for all prophetic seekers of Christ's Second Coming! This book is officially endorsed by The Ignorant Fishermen blog. Liberal Fascism historically documents the outworking, mindset and strategic game plan of the ideological phenomenon of liberal socialistic fascism in both the past and present. This insight is absolutely key to understanding present moods and trends on both a national and global scale. As prophetic events are unfolding right before our eyes, we who know the Lord Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior understand that greater things are at work than the ambitions of power crazed politicians. The Bible - Almighty God's Word - states:

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"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places (Eph 6:12)."
1 posted on 12/22/2009 2:14:51 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
With so many souls volunteering to do evil, Lucifer does not need to be a Fascist.

But Fascism is evil.

2 posted on 12/22/2009 2:18:40 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: Mikey_1962

Well... He is one.. it’s making his job alot easier...


3 posted on 12/22/2009 2:27:13 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

(L)ucifer doesn’t exist. It is a mistranslation of “morning star” and wasn’t capitalized in the original.


4 posted on 12/22/2009 2:28:17 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Richard Wurmbrand's book Marx & Satan, presents a case that Marx was not an atheist, but a Satanist, based on his own writings.

It is impossible to understand what we are up against today without believing that verse (Eph.6:12). All the many flavors of socialism (social "democrats," Commies, Fascists, the hippieish New Left, etc.) are in a bizarre alliance with the primitive Dark Ages cult of Islam. All they have in common is hostility to Christianity. Satan uses this motley assortment of movements as his toolkit.

5 posted on 12/22/2009 2:32:43 PM PST by hellbender
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To: HospiceNurse; cardinal4

The Lakota Indians called George Armstrong Custer “Son of the Morning Star.” A coincidence?


6 posted on 12/22/2009 2:33:19 PM PST by Ax (Carpe Vinum.)
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To: HospiceNurse
(L)ucifer doesn’t exist. It is a mistranslation of “morning star” and wasn’t capitalized in the original.

Neither was "God" capitalized--because Ancient Hebrew didn't use capitalization, genius.
7 posted on 12/22/2009 2:46:18 PM PST by newguy357
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To: HospiceNurse
Light bearer - Latin - Lucifer - a noun - True..His name is derived from his position

but he is a person http://net.bible.org/strong.php?id=01966

8 posted on 12/22/2009 2:56:58 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: hellbender

agree! he has one goal though.. Worship! All roads will lead to this termanial. it is his main goal.


9 posted on 12/22/2009 2:58:58 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: newguy357

Thanks for that insight.


10 posted on 12/22/2009 3:00:18 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Light bearer - Latin - Lucifer - a noun - True..His name is derived from his position

Check newer versions of the Bible. Lucifer is not Satan

11 posted on 12/22/2009 3:43:50 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: Ax
The most common name for the “Morning Star” is Venus. It is not a “star” by modern definition, but a bright, shiny object in the eastern sky. Many primitive peoples had myths about Venus, including the myth of the goddess Venus rising from the sea. The morning star rises in the east. Calling someone “the son of the morning star” is synoymous to calling him a son of the east- which Custer was.
12 posted on 12/22/2009 4:09:14 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

http://www.universetoday.com/guide-to-space/venus/venus-the-morning-star/

When Venus is on the other side of the Sun, it leads the Sun as it travels across the sky. Venus will rise in the morning a few hours before the Sun. Then as the Sun rises, the sky brightens and Venus fades away in the daytime sky. This is Venus the Morning Star.

The ancient Greeks and Egyptians thought that Venus was actually two separate objects, a morning star and an evening star. The Greeks called the morning star Phosphoros, “the bringer of light”; and they called the evening star Hesperos, “the star of the evening”. A few hundred years later, the Hellenistic Greeks realized that Venus was actually a single object.


13 posted on 12/22/2009 4:12:01 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: HospiceNurse
Check newer versions of the Bible. Lucifer is not Satan

I think that I'll stick with the dull old boring Bible in which Lucifer in his fall becomes satan; also called the dragon and the devil. I know of a bunch of Gaia worshipping Wiccan lesbian nuns who are looking for bright new recruits. Shall I give them your screen name?

14 posted on 12/22/2009 4:17:33 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

“Lucifer,” the light-bringer, is the Latin equivalent of the Greek word “Phosphoros,” which is used as a title of Christ in II Pet. 1:19 and corresponds to the name “radiant and brilliant Morning Star” in Rev. 22:16, a name Jesus called Himself. This passage here in Isa. 14:13 clearly applies to the king of Babylon.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+14%3A12-14&version=AMP


15 posted on 12/22/2009 4:32:27 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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I have found a friend in Jesus, He's everything to me, He's the fairest of ten thousand to my soul; The Lily of the Valley, in Him alone I see All I need to cleanse and make me fully whole. In sorrow He's my comfort, in trouble He's my stay; He tells me every care on Him to roll. He's the Lily of the Valley, the Bright and Morning Star, He's the fairest of ten thousand to my soul.

He all my grief has taken, and all my sorrows borne; In temptation He's my strong and mighty tower; I have all for Him forsaken, and all my idols torn From my heart and now He keeps me by His power. Though all the world forsake me, and Satan tempt me sore, Through Jesus I shall safely reach the goal.

He's the Lily of the Valley, the Bright and Morning Star, He's the fairest of ten thousand to my soul.

He will never, never leave me, nor yet forsake me here, While I live by faith and do His blessèd will; A wall of fire about me, I've nothing now to fear, From His manna He my hungry soul shall fill. Then sweeping up to glory to see His blessèd face, Where the rivers of delight shall ever roll.

He's the Lily of the Valley, the Bright and Morning Star, He's the fairest of ten thousand to my soul.

16 posted on 12/22/2009 4:36:33 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: HospiceNurse
NewAdvent.com has this:

Lucifer (Hebrew helel; Septuagint heosphoros, Vulgate lucifer)

The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance. The Vulgate employs the word also for "the light of the morning" (Job 11:17), "the signs of the zodiac" (Job 38:32), and "the aurora" (Psalm 109:3). Metaphorically, the word is applied to the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:12) as preeminent among the princes of his time; to the high priest Simon son of Onias (Ecclesiasticus 50:6), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven (Apocalypse 2:28), by reason of its excellency; finally to Jesus Christ himself (2 Peter 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life.

The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew noun helel from the verb yalal, "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1.14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star. In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen (Petavius, De Angelis, III, iii, 4).

So it does seem that you are partially correct.

17 posted on 12/22/2009 4:42:54 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
So it does seem that you are partially correct. I am totally correct unless you are a devout Catholic after the third century A.D. and you rely on St. Jerome as an authority. If you are, God bless you and Merry Christmas. You cannot argue faith.

The Bible is infallible, but St. J was only a man.

18 posted on 12/22/2009 4:46:48 PM PST by HospiceNurse
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To: HospiceNurse
I am totally correct unless you are a devout Catholic after the third century A.D. and you rely on St. Jerome as an authority. If you are, God bless you and Merry Christmas. You cannot argue faith.

No, but you can discuss it. St. Jerome was a Church Father; the Magisterium has decided somewhat different - that Lucifer is a state or description, rather than an individual. I suppose that it would be equivalent to a title or description such as Son of God (David, the giants in Genesis et al).

The Bible is infallible

However, an individual interpretation of Scripture is.

19 posted on 12/22/2009 4:55:26 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
The Bible is infallible

However, an individual interpretation of Scripture is.

Meant to say that individual interpretation of Scripture is very fallible.

20 posted on 12/22/2009 4:58:24 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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