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Help me find the Truth. (Personal question)
Urroner

Posted on 12/28/2009 11:26:45 AM PST by urroner

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To: AmericanArchConservative

I agree


381 posted on 12/29/2009 10:51:11 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Obamacare: Old folks don't deserve healthcare. They use up too many carbon credits just breathing.)
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To: urroner
Wow, can't believe how you have attracted just a huge response, why do we care? But you mustn’t pride yourself on thinking that the huge response means that you are in the truth. I could say many things about the Mormon faith, but because you do not want any remarks or backlash I won't. Your seeking the truth? Yes you must be because you are restless, that is obvious. Humility is necessary. There is a truth, the pure recipe, the core of where the Holy Spirit moves in truth. Much prayer is needed on your part, for your journey in seeking truth. Jesus Christ is the truth, you are a believer in Him I presume....but where has deposit of truth been given in this big world? I could tell you, but you must seek it out on your own, and when you find it you will not be restless anymore, you will be free. The road is rocky and narrow, and the enemy is lying in wait, always ready to push you off the path...but Jesus answers the desires of our heart. Be persistant in your search, He who sees all hearts will guide you. It may take a little time, there is a reason for that, but you will know and you will be at peace. I will pray for you urroner.
382 posted on 12/29/2009 11:03:14 AM PST by Ottlia
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To: AmericanArchConservative
I pretty much see all LDS post as simple entertainment value, though I may play serious for the fun of it.

But that's just me...

;-)

383 posted on 12/29/2009 11:15:23 AM PST by ejonesie22
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To: Texas Songwriter

You win.


384 posted on 12/29/2009 11:19:12 AM PST by ejonesie22
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To: greyfoxx39

Heyyyyy!

Just in case nobody noticed, yesterday was my five year FReep-versary.

Wooo-hooo!

Gonna keep on FReepin’

A.A.C.


385 posted on 12/29/2009 11:29:23 AM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: ejonesie22

you’re number 1!


386 posted on 12/29/2009 12:04:10 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: AmericanArchConservative

Happy Freep Day!


387 posted on 12/29/2009 12:05:07 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: svcw

PH


388 posted on 12/29/2009 1:20:21 PM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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To: AmericanArchConservative
Just in case nobody noticed, yesterday was my five year FReep-versary.

Dang!

Now I have to look up MINE!

389 posted on 12/29/2009 1:34:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

placemarker


390 posted on 12/29/2009 1:48:55 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Vendome

Better than being number 2...


391 posted on 12/29/2009 1:50:04 PM PST by ejonesie22
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To: urroner

When man is involved in religion all logic and consistency can be left out unless their life is lived in the right way for the right reason! Since most people live their life for themselves this does not hold true to base them as an example. The best example is Jesus and they hung him on the cross.


392 posted on 12/29/2009 2:46:27 PM PST by handy old one (If you play in nature be prepared to be played with by nature!)
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To: mrreaganaut
Atheists are, by definition, materialist naturalists. Materialism cannot account for immaterial things...ie...abstract concepts, rationality, reason, logic, love, mercy, conciousness, sentience. Therefore their worldview must borrow these very concepts from the theistic universe.The atheistic worldveiw, in essence, provides the evidence for proof of the existence of God from the impossibility of the contrary. The transendental proof for God's existence is that witout Him it is impossible to prove anything. The atheists worldview is irrational and cannot consistently provide the preconditions of intelligible experience, science, logic, or morality. The athesists worldview cannot allow for the laws of logic, the uniformity of nature, the ability for the mind to understand the world, and moral absolutes. Without the existence of God it is impossible to prove anything. That is because in the atheistic world you cannot justify, you cannot account for human life, from the fact that it is more than electrochemical complexes in depth, and the fact that it is more than an accident. That is to say, in the atheists conception of the world, there is really no reason to believe anything....because in the athistic worldview everything is conventional. All laws are simply conventional...the laws of logic are determinined in the athistis world by agreement, not by logic, but by simply something which occurs in the brain as a neurotransmittor. As laws come down to being materialistic entities, then they no longer have their law-like character. If they are only social conventions, then of course, what we might do to limit any discussion is just to define a new set of laws which make us feel better.

Yet noone is satisfied without a rational procedure to follow. The laws of logic can not be avoided, the laws of logic cannot be accounted for in a materialistic universe. Therefore the laws of Logic are one of the many evidences that without God you cannot prove anthing at all. The denial of the Christian God and a Christian Theistic Universe leads inexorably to the denial of rationality.

The Bible says 'the fool hath said in his heart there is no God.' That is not name calling, but is a description of someone who is imbued with the knowledge that God is. Paul says in I Cornithians chapter 1 that God has made foolish the wisdom of this world. He says, "Where are the wise? Where is the debater of this age? Romans, chapter 1:18-following, says God is making Himself known continually and persuasively to all men, so that men do not have an excuse for their rejection of the existence of the Christian God. Some continue their fools errands and rationalizations of why they refuse belief in Him. People can know the truth and yet work very hard to rationalize the evidence, as Paul says, "suppress the truth in unrighteousness" in order to convince themselves that there is no God.

Finally, people are not made into theists by miracles. People must change their world view.

393 posted on 12/29/2009 3:40:31 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: mrreaganaut

Country music, some pop, a little southern rock, country Christian.


394 posted on 12/29/2009 3:49:05 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Texas Songwriter

Finally, people are not made into theists by miracles. People must change their world view.
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Too true! An atheist witness to a miracle would simply explain it away as something ‘science hasn’t explained yet.’ As I’ve said before, they have just as much stubborn faith as anybody else, but don’t know it.


395 posted on 12/29/2009 4:30:10 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Sticks and stones may break my bones, but lawyer jokes are actionable.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
ROFLOL!!
396 posted on 12/29/2009 6:13:09 PM PST by Osage Orange (“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It”)
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To: svcw

ph


397 posted on 12/29/2009 6:45:31 PM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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