Posted on 12/29/2009 12:58:07 PM PST by NYer
In an interview with Newsweek's Eleanor Clift, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi criticized the Church for its position on abortion and gays rights and stated that her Bishop has "tried to change my mind"
Pelosi responds to questions about abortion in the health-care bill and her insistence that the original pre-Stupak bill did not fund abortion and says of the Bishops "they are not willing to accept facts."
It was reported that you were negotiating with the conference of bishops.Pelosi goes on to criticize the Church for its position on abortion and gay marriage while still claiming to be a "practicing" Catholic
I talked to one of the cardinals. I said to him that I believe that what we are doing honors the principles we talked about: we want to pass a health-care bill, we want it to be abortion neutral, and we want it to [have] no federal funding [for abortion], which is the law. And we believe that our language does that. They said, "We believe that it does not." I said, let's sit down at the table and our lawyers can compare language. That's what the meeting was about—to make our case. Clearly, the people at that table were not willing to accept what we know to be a fact.
I think you have had some brushes with [church] hierarchy.And finally admits that her Bishop has tried to change her mind on the subject, but she is not listening.
I have some concerns about the church's position respecting a woman's right to choose. I have some concerns about the church's position on gay rights. I am a practicing Catholic, although they're probably not too happy about that. But it is my faith. I practically mourn this difference of opinion because I feel what I was raised to believe is consistent with what I profess, and that is that we are all endowed with a free will and a responsibility to answer for our actions. And that women should have that opportunity to exercise their free will.
Is it difficult for you to reconcile your faith with the role you have in public life?What we know is that Nancy Pelosi continues to publicly represent herself as a faithful and practicing Catholic while continuing to to publicly oppose the Church on grave moral matters. We also know that her Bishop has apparently contacted her privately to try and change her mind, to which she has responded publicly by saying she will not be swayed. This is a text-book definition of scandal and should, at this point, be dealt with in a direct and public way lest no one else think that you can hold these positions and consider yourself a "practicing" Catholic.
You know, I had five children in six years. The day I brought my fifth baby home, that week my daughter turned 6. So I appreciate and value all that they want to talk about in terms of family and the rest. When I speak to my archbishop in San Francisco and his role is to try to change my mind on the subject, well then he is exercising his pastoral duty to me as one of his flock. When they call me on the phone here to talk about, or come to see me about an issue, that's a different story. Then they are advocates, and I am a public official, and I have a different responsibility.
Lol ... sounds like both our dogs enjoy the same podium.
Hard to change something that’s not only closed, but cemented shut.
HO HO HO!
The old Pelegius arguments come home to roost.
It’s sad this comman woman, Pelosi, thinks she is above God.
I’m glad her Bishop has tried to change her mind. I hope God will hold her to very strict account on her judgment day.
I think the Bishops need to speak out clearly and regularly that the politicians who say they’re Catholic but support abortion are not really Catholic. They need to educate Catholic voters better about their culpability in voting for the faux Catholics.
The church is slow but hopefully sure on this one. Pelosi had a closed-door audience with Pope Benedict months ago, and the Pope denied her the coveted photo-op. She made false claims about how the conversation went, and is pushing this way too far. She is a heretic, an embarrasment, and I pray will soon be excommunicated. As a praticing Catholic I can tell you the she is putting a chill in the church. Our leaders often let us down, but God will not be mocked. This will not end well for the heretic.
Too sadly true!
Never. It takes a miracle.
Sounds pretty Anglican to me.
She is a lot dumber than I thought.
That's another thing, isn't it?
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