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Pastor Rick Warren Asks Faithful For Nearly $1 Million -- And Fast!
Radar Online ^ | Dec 31, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 12/31/2009 1:22:01 PM PST by PilotDave

"I have thrilling news to share with you below but first some seriously bad news: With 10% of our church family out of work due to the recession, our expenses in caring for our community in 2009 rose dramatically while our income stagnated. Still, with wise management, we've stayed close to our budget all year. Then... this last weekend the bottom dropped out.

"On the last weekend of 2009, our total offerings were less than half of what we normally receive - leaving us $900,000 in the red for the year, unless you help make up the difference today and tomorrow."

(Excerpt) Read more at radaronline.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: fundraising; rickwarren; saddleback
Sounds like he's trying to atrack his share of year end charitable giving for tax purposes?
1 posted on 12/31/2009 1:22:06 PM PST by PilotDave
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To: PilotDave

Given how much of Barry’s scam stimulus is not spent, check with Barry for a bailout, Rick, kkthx.....idiot.


2 posted on 12/31/2009 1:25:42 PM PST by cranked
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To: PilotDave
This guy is a carnie-huckster.
3 posted on 12/31/2009 1:27:31 PM PST by Mengerian
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To: PilotDave

Maybe he should try Oral Roberts’ line a few years back... “Gimme da money or God’s gonna rub me out!”

You could call it kipnapped and held for ransom by God.

Hmmm???? (But I was always taught Jesus WAS the ransom(!) and
didn’t Pator Rick he become a jillionare with his books?)
Go figure??? Happy 2010!


4 posted on 12/31/2009 1:28:11 PM PST by FiddlePig (truth is hard... lies are easy - http://redneckoblogger.blogspot.com)
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To: PilotDave

Maybe Rick can ask the good people of the Syrian government to help out.

Or cut spending.


5 posted on 12/31/2009 1:29:20 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Mengerian

Kind of surprising they didn’t have a bit of “padding” in their budget.


6 posted on 12/31/2009 1:29:42 PM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Lockbar

Perhaps he could offer some bonds for sale to the Chinese? They seem to have a insatiable lust for IOU’s.


7 posted on 12/31/2009 1:31:44 PM PST by PilotDave (America; nice while it lasted... I miss it already.)
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To: PilotDave

or God will call him home??

we can hope??


8 posted on 12/31/2009 1:34:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: PilotDave

Well..., he ain’t gonna get it from me... that’s for sure... LOL...


9 posted on 12/31/2009 1:39:53 PM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: PilotDave

..sorry, but after your Prop 8 180 degree turn and cozying up to Obama, I have little pity for your post-modern empire’s little financial woes...


10 posted on 12/31/2009 1:53:51 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Star Traveler

I have rec’d $23 million from Nigeria. If Rick will make a small security deposit of just $500K, I will release it to him.


11 posted on 12/31/2009 1:55:18 PM PST by GnuHere
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To: PilotDave

Maybe he’s being blackmailed, or has a gambling debt. At any rate we see he learned well from his mentor Obiwanabama


12 posted on 12/31/2009 1:55:32 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: PilotDave

him bad me no like me read here he bad man and write bad book make people bad no like when make people bad him bad no like him


13 posted on 12/31/2009 1:59:42 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Skooz

why dont people like pastor rick? i thought he was a good guy? am i wrong?


14 posted on 12/31/2009 2:36:26 PM PST by remaxagnt (`)
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To: remaxagnt
Post 14 why dont people like pastor rick? i thought he was a good guy? am i wrong?

Post 10 ..sorry, but after your Prop 8 180 degree turn and cozying up to Obama, I have little pity for your post-modern empire’s little financial woes...

It seems to me as though he was taking donations (that come from faith) for granted. The lesson is not to take what God gives you for granted you you may be Rick Rolled.

15 posted on 12/31/2009 3:00:27 PM PST by ActrFshr
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To: PilotDave

“What profits a preacher if he gains the riches of this world and loses the Kingdom of Heaven?”” I’m always suspect when a ‘’man of God’’ starts running around with his hand out looking for a big fat money ‘’donation’’.


16 posted on 12/31/2009 3:30:48 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: PilotDave

It has been reported that 22,000 people attend each week. 900k is about 40 per person, hardly an undue burden or extraordinary request.


17 posted on 12/31/2009 3:42:55 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: PilotDave
"I have thrilling news to share with you below..."

So what was the thrilling news...?

18 posted on 12/31/2009 3:45:29 PM PST by frankenMonkey ("Natural Born Citizen" - US Constitution, 1787; "Words have meaning" - Barack Obama, 2009)
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To: PilotDave

Wednesday Evening Update:

Dear Saddleback Family,

It has been both inspiring and humbling to hear the reports of your instant and overwhelming response to this week’s News & Views. Thanks so much for all your encouraging notes and emails! Here’s just one:

Sent: Wed. Dec.30, 2009 5:07 PM
To: Rick Warren
I was just standing above the Ministry Center entrance with tears in my eyes watching people walk up and drop giving envelopes in the door box. I received your email at home at 2:50 pm and it’s just amazing watching people come up and drop off giving envelopes so soon after. We have such amazing members in our church! I am so blessed to be a member of Saddleback, and even more privileged and blessed to serve on the staff of such a church as this.

I’ll give you a full report this weekend but want to mention two things now:

BACKGROUND: The cause of our financial shortfall was NOT a management issue but simply by the way Christmas occurred in this year’s calendar. After 10 packed Christmas services, and with Christmas Day on Friday, many people were out of town or too tired to come back for weekend services, so the unusually low attendance created an unusually low offering. That is understandable.

MEDIA: Because our church attracts a lot of attention, the media will undoubtedly report my letter- but only partially, not telling the whole story. It is likely that none of the positive end-of-the-year reports of your service to the community and none of your amazing accomplishments as a church family in 2009 will be reported. They may get some facts wrong or even misjudge our motivations. I know this is frustrating, but don’t let it bother you.

See you this weekend!
Pastor Rick

http://www.saddleback.com/blogs/newsandviews/index.html


19 posted on 12/31/2009 3:47:01 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

I bet Rick will never put one of those letters out again no matter how much debt the church is in.


20 posted on 12/31/2009 3:51:52 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: PilotDave

Other FR posts on Rick Warren today:

Megachurch Pastor Asks For Urgent Donations [Demand by MegaMillionaire Rick Warren!]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2418510/posts

OBAMA PAL REV RICK WARREN BOTTOMS OUT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2418455/posts

Rick Warren Asks for Urgent Donations
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2418205/posts

Pastor Rick Warren urgently asks faithful for $900,000 (Ask Your Boy Obama For It)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2418151/posts


21 posted on 12/31/2009 3:56:17 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: PilotDave

Sounds like a job for Dave Ramsey...


22 posted on 12/31/2009 3:56:17 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: PilotDave

Seems like our parish priest should have the same problem, but I haven’t heard a peep from him.


23 posted on 12/31/2009 3:56:25 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: PilotDave
Nothing like yucking it up with the most vile man who has ever been President of the United States in our lifetime:


24 posted on 12/31/2009 3:59:13 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife

I think it is good for a church to be challenged and asked to give more. We all get complacent in our giving.


25 posted on 12/31/2009 4:01:15 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
I totally agree with you if it was anyone but Rick Warren. I think the most troubling thing about this request from his church is this guy has made millions on his Purpose Driven materials and has lured 300,000 pastors to participate in his “church growth” conferences to show how to grow their churches and make their churches bring in more money. He has changed so many churches in what they do these days by creating a watered down, lukewarm church. This has not just affected his church and congregation but congregations all over the world. The Church of Laodicea front and center spreading it to many churches. The impact that the church has had in this nation has been minimal at best these past 10 years and it has a lot to do with Warren’s social gospel he has been spreading.

See The purpose driven and emergent hijacking of Christianity

26 posted on 12/31/2009 4:06:16 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: All

The wife and I attend Saddleback & are members of the church. Its a round trip of 250 miles every Saturday to attend the service.
Rick gives 90% of his income to the church, he has not taken a salary for the last 8 years.

Do you give 90% of your income to your church?

With unemployment running at about 20% in orange county the tithing has dropped off. I see that at the service I attend.

Rick drives a 1999 ford truck and has lived in the same house for the last twenty years.

When we lived in Newport Bech it was a twenty minutes or so drive.

We have attended churches locally but I didnt get the same insperational teaching as we get at Saddleback.

The work that Saddleback does locally and thur out the world is whywe choose to drive 250 miles to worship.

I invite anyone within driving distance to come worship with us at Saddleback, or watch a service online.

Saddleback members give so much to the local commuinity.

If someone needs a car donated cars are given at NO cost to them. Need food just ask the food panty.

Toy’s for kids for Christmas how about several 18 wheelers full.

Mrs McClure has a bit to say:

I’m glad that Rick was honest enough to tell us of the financial situation and give us a chance and challenge to give to the Lord. I challenge all of you to go on to the Saddleback website in Lake Forest California and look at all of the ministry’s that this church has. It truly reaches the entire world and it takes an enormous amount of money to run all of these programs.

After all if you don’t give away anything God wants you to give, you don’t own it. . . it owns you.

Pastor Rick did not kiss Obama’s butt. He held a fair forum and he asked questions and let them answer each one.


27 posted on 12/31/2009 5:28:30 PM PST by troy McClure
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To: Nightshift

gnip...


28 posted on 12/31/2009 5:31:20 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: remaxagnt
why dont people like pastor rick? i thought he was a good guy? am i wrong?

I don't have a problem with him, but we have a cadre of virulently anti-Warren folks here who pounce on every thread in which he is mentioned. I was kind of (good naturedly, of course) mocking them.

29 posted on 12/31/2009 6:58:20 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: PilotDave

Is the Lord gonna, “Take him home” al la Oral Roberts if he doesn’t come up with the dough?


30 posted on 12/31/2009 9:45:31 PM PST by onedoug
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To: troy McClure

An adept defense.


31 posted on 01/02/2010 11:51:14 AM PST by Dr. North
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