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Harrisburg ELCA Congregation Gives Building to Coptic Orthodox Church
ELCA News Service ^ | 31 December AD 2009 | Barbara Myers

Posted on 01/01/2010 6:38:22 PM PST by lightman

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Memorial Lutheran, Harrisburg, PA, soon to become St. Mark's Coptic Orthodox Church:


1 posted on 01/01/2010 6:38:24 PM PST by lightman
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Lutheran Ping!

Christ is Born, Glorify Him!

2 posted on 01/01/2010 6:40:11 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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Ping.


3 posted on 01/01/2010 6:41:35 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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Orthodox ping


4 posted on 01/01/2010 6:42:24 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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Ecumenical ping!

(also architectural irony ping, but that’s a really small list)


5 posted on 01/01/2010 6:49:03 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Sticks and stones may break my bones, but lawyer jokes are actionable.)
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To: lightman

That photo reminds me so much of my home congregation in Detroit.


6 posted on 01/01/2010 6:49:03 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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St. Al’s in Dearborn?


7 posted on 01/01/2010 6:50:52 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: lightman
I realize that this situation has nothing to do with the CWA last August, BUT,
Since it takes a two-thirds majority for a congregation to leave the ELCA, I suspect many individuals will leave on their own, causing even more ELCA congregations to have more real estate than they can afford. We may see more of this in the not-too-distant future.

8 posted on 01/01/2010 6:52:13 PM PST by SmithL (SARCHASM: The gulf between the maker of sarcastic wit and the person who just doesn't get it.)
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To: lightman

My hat is off to the Harrisburg church. Thank you for making a light shine in the midst of darkness. Thank you for the truly unselfish gift. May God have mercy and His Blessing upon you in this and in every upcoming year.


9 posted on 01/01/2010 6:53:36 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: lightman

btt


10 posted on 01/01/2010 6:56:43 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: MarkBsnr

Holy Cross on Grand River near Greenfield.


11 posted on 01/01/2010 7:02:06 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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That photo reminds me so much of my home congregation in Detroit.

Is this it?

12 posted on 01/01/2010 7:12:44 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: lightman
Memorial Lutheran Church, founded 1872, from the ELCA website: Membership listed at 206. Average Sunday attendance 35. Contributing members, 80. Running in deficit since 2002. Looks like they may have been living on savings +/or endowments, which now are exhausted. Church buildings valued at over 4 million dollars but no other assets. No youth confirmed this year or several years prior.

Probably not so much fallout from CWA as just a congregation which has aged, no longer matches the neiughborhood, and has more or less run its course.

Divesting an old building, costly to maintain and likely in need of major improvements, is a way of buying one last lease on life.

13 posted on 01/01/2010 7:20:00 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: stayathomemom

My wife’s home parish was St. Al’s. Similar, but it’s been a few years since I’ve been there. Thanks.


14 posted on 01/01/2010 7:23:42 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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There will be babies in the nursery, children in the Sunday school rooms, women and men in the social hall and kitchen, loving and sharing in the communion of fellowship and hospitality in the church where so many of the lives of faithful Lutherans began

Yes. Thank you, Pastor, and God bless you.




15 posted on 01/01/2010 7:30:34 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: lightman

This happened here too. Now it is a vibrant Coptic Christian Community-—God Bless Saint Mark.


16 posted on 01/01/2010 7:39:40 PM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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“no longer matches the neighborhood,”

The nail has definitely been hit on the head. Any similarity between the church members and the people who reside in the surrounding neighborhood is purely coincidental.


17 posted on 01/01/2010 7:39:55 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: lightman

I like stories like this.

I hate to see old churches fall into disrepair. Christ will be proclaimed there still.

I do wonder what type of renovations they will have to do to make things conform to the Orthodox way of doing things.


18 posted on 01/01/2010 7:47:44 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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St. Stephen the First Martyr in Sacramento used to be a Lutheran Church. It is now Tridentine Mass Catholic, standing room only.


19 posted on 01/01/2010 7:52:36 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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20 posted on 01/01/2010 7:53:34 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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