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Joel Osteen blesses Houston's new (gay) mayor Annise Parker
The Aquila Report ^ | 07 January 2010 | Cathy Lynn Grossman

Posted on 01/07/2010 1:41:13 PM PST by Gamecock

Annise Parker, the newly-elected happens-to-be-lesbian mayor of Houston was sworn in Monday and the opening prayer was given by ... Rev. Joel Osteen. Is your head spinning? Osteen heads the nation's most mega of evangelical non-denominational megachurches, Lakewood Church in Houston where about 45,000 people cycle through a revamped sports stadium for services every weekend.

Osteen has been all over telling folks (Larry King, Whoopi Goldberg) for years that homosexuality is not "God's best." I presume he means "God's best choice" because otherwise I'm lost in the dropped or implied rest of the sentence. But "God's best" is phrase Osteen never finishes so I'm just guessing.

Yet, Osteen hasn't joined the more strident wing of the religious right in damning gays. Indeed, Osteen takes heat from other evangelicals who condemn him for not laying down a line of fire about sin of any kind. That's not his style, says the preacher known for his broad smile and sermons that God wants you to be happy. Osteen's best seller was titled, Your Best Life Now.

Now writer Timothy Kincaid suggests to his gay readership that they look at Osteen more fully and fairly.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: anniseparker; heretic; heretics; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; houston; lesbonazimayor; mayor; megachurch; osteen; pastor; religiousleft; ybpdln

1 posted on 01/07/2010 1:41:17 PM PST by Gamecock
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Not surprised. After all he is not a Christian minister.

“How can you say that Gamecock!?!”

Because he denied the Gospel on national TV. Christian ministers don’t do that.

He is a priest of self-esteem.


2 posted on 01/07/2010 1:43:48 PM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: Gamecock
O RLY?

3 posted on 01/07/2010 1:44:13 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: Gamecock

Osteen isn’t a hell fire & brimstone type. That’s Hagee’s job.


4 posted on 01/07/2010 1:44:22 PM PST by DogBarkTree
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To: DocRock; del4hope; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; Ottofire; fishtank; ...

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5 posted on 01/07/2010 1:45:18 PM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: Gamecock

A wolf


6 posted on 01/07/2010 1:47:04 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: DogBarkTree

Problem is, he doen’t even know what he is.

Watch him on TV interviews. Every other phrase is “I don’t know.”


7 posted on 01/07/2010 1:47:52 PM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: Gamecock

If those 45,000 attendees had an ounce of intelligence they would never have joined his “Church” to begin with. That few if any will choose to leave shows how moronic much of what Christian Evangelicals have become.


8 posted on 01/07/2010 1:48:39 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Gamecock

Well said. I agree 100%.


9 posted on 01/07/2010 1:49:10 PM PST by Above My Pay Grade ("I don't have a whole lot of mercy for the bad guys, I'm on the good guys' side." -Sarah Palin)
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To: Gamecock
Osteen is a prosperity theologist.

I don't know where he gets his values, but it ain't the gospels.

10 posted on 01/07/2010 1:53:50 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Gamecock

What he preaches is a soft touchy-feely prosperity gospel. No “Onward Christian Soldiers” no standing up for God, for Jesus, for morality. Only soft, squishy, vague answers. He is going to pay unless he repents. Yeah, I’m judging, and I am using the Bible to judge.


11 posted on 01/07/2010 1:56:58 PM PST by vpintheak (How can love of God, Family and Country make me an extremist?)
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To: Gamecock

What’s the difference between “gay and liberal” and just plain “liberal?”


12 posted on 01/07/2010 1:58:36 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Gamecock
The article appears suggesting that it's inappropriate for a minister to bless a mayor's term in office.

That's stupid.

13 posted on 01/07/2010 1:59:12 PM PST by r9etb
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Osteen’s book, with the title, Your Best Life Now should tell anyone with a bit of spiritual discernment that he doesn’t preach the Gospel message. I’m looking forward to eternity with the King of kings and Lord of lords! My best life will never be on this earth.


14 posted on 01/07/2010 2:05:15 PM PST by Britt0n
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To: Gamecock

Why should this surprise anyone? Osteen is not a Christian, he is just another feel good speaker who’s silver tongue messages mask the evil he truly is.


15 posted on 01/07/2010 2:16:41 PM PST by Tom Hawks
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To: Gamecock

BTTT


16 posted on 01/07/2010 2:18:54 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Gamecock

I wonder if Osteen is even aware of the passage in the book of James warning of a Pastor receiving a “stricter” judgment for false preaching. Beware.


17 posted on 01/07/2010 2:20:51 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Brilliant

Going by mutated troglodytes like Michelle O, Hillary Clinton, Sonia Sotomayor, Janet Napolitano, Nancy Pelosi, and Janet Reno, I’d say “not much.”


18 posted on 01/07/2010 2:21:04 PM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: Gamecock
Rev. Joel Osteen. Is your head spinning?

No.

Years back I predicted something like this, though even with all my powers of google-fu I cannot pull it up.

19 posted on 01/07/2010 2:24:57 PM PST by Lee N. Field (And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD)
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To: skeeter

Osteen is a prosperity theologist.

I like that term. Nailed it.


20 posted on 01/07/2010 2:26:25 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Gamecock
Because he denied the Gospel on national TV. Christian ministers don’t do that. He is a priest of self-esteem.

Good call Gamecock. When ever I see a thread that has in the title, "Joel Osteen Devotional Moment", I want to puke because they set it up so you cannot debate the poster because they are under the illusion that he is a man of God. Fact it the only god he servers is Satan and the world. Osteen is just another bum with a lot of money, preaching a lie to the confused, liberal, socialized Houston masses.

There is nothing about Osteen and his teachings that even remotely resemble a Christian minister that would be ordained by the Holy Spirit.
21 posted on 01/07/2010 2:34:21 PM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Gamecock

Careful what you say. There are some on here who think he’s God.

Osteen’s “flock” is anyone who can donate and buy his books. And he doesn’t want to offend any of his “flock”.


22 posted on 01/07/2010 2:34:48 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a "Second Sons of Liberty".)
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To: Gamecock
Any Joel Osteen thread needs to include the Joel Osteen Heresy Gauge, just to be safe.
23 posted on 01/07/2010 2:42:09 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

That was cool, and I agree 100%.


24 posted on 01/07/2010 2:44:27 PM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: vpintheak

>Yeah, I’m judging, and I am using the Bible to judge.

No need for apology.

“For the time [is come] that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if [it] first [begin] at us, what shall the end [be] of them that obey not the gospel of God? “
1 Peter 4:17

If Osteen is IN the house of God, he is a fair target for judgment FROM the house of God.


25 posted on 01/07/2010 2:47:44 PM PST by ROTB (Public Option vs. Insurance: Armed men at my door demanding payment vs a "bill")
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To: OneVike

I had the same problem when I dared to ask a sincere question about Sarah Palin. Some icons cannot be even remotely questioned. Those who back Osteen should have tried to convince you of their side rather than flame you.


26 posted on 01/07/2010 2:55:32 PM PST by discomatic
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To: Alex Murphy

LOL!


27 posted on 01/07/2010 2:58:28 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: discomatic

They’ll do more than flame. They will never respond to your statements but they will tell you how much they know about the Bible and how much you don’t know. I guess they think that makes them right to worship Joy Boy. That’s a good name for Osteen. He preaches JOY JOY JOY!


28 posted on 01/07/2010 3:06:29 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a "Second Sons of Liberty".)
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To: Britt0n
I’m looking forward to eternity with the King of kings and Lord of lords! My best life will never be on this earth.

Amen and amen to that!

29 posted on 01/07/2010 3:16:53 PM PST by lupie
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To: Gamecock

I don’t trust anyone who smiles a lot, and this guy is ALL TEETH.


30 posted on 01/07/2010 6:46:01 PM PST by BobL (When Democrats start to love this country more than they hate Republicans, good things might happen.)
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To: Britt0n
Now should tell anyone with a bit of spiritual discernment that he doesn’t preach the Gospel message.

Anyone without blindeds would hear that is eaxtly what he talks about.

Oh? What about this little gem?

And he certainly doesn't preach that Christ is the only way. You do know that he denied Christ on national TV, right?

31 posted on 01/07/2010 11:41:33 PM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: Gamecock
CAN WE FINALLY BAN THOSE OSTEEN "DEVOTIONALS" ON FR?
32 posted on 01/08/2010 9:05:35 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

I am against banning anything on FR, as much as I detest Osteen.

My objection is granting them devotional status.


33 posted on 01/09/2010 1:03:34 AM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: lupie

What is wrong with preaching joy and prosperity? The intimation there is that you don’t believe that God wants that for us. There is ZERO Biblical evidence of that. I don’t know anything about Osteen, but a pastor that preaches nothing but hellfire and brimstone isn’t going to get very far, plus there is more to the Bible than that.

Sometimes people need to hear about the rewards rather than just the punishment.


34 posted on 01/09/2010 1:12:27 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater
HE DENIED CHRIST!!!

Sorry for screaming.

There is ZERO Biblical evidence of that.

Why does God promise that Christians will suffer for their beliefs?

35 posted on 01/09/2010 1:34:13 AM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: Gamecock
HE DENIED CHRIST!!!

OK, but if another pastor that didn't deny Christ preached joy and prosperity, he would STILL be reviled on these threads. Why? Probably for the same reason some on FR think that if your church has any instrument other than a pipe organ for the praise/worship, then you're going to hell.

Are Christianity and prosperity mutually exclusive?

Why does God promise that Christians will suffer for their beliefs?

Because some have and more will. Not every one of them has, not every one will. But if you try to sell Christianity to someone with the promise of earthly poverty and guaranteed misery, you're not going to have much luck and will be forced to omit large sections of the Bible. There is a religion that thinks like that--Islam. I refuse to live solely for the afterlife like those murdering cavemen. We are to make our lives here better as well.

36 posted on 01/09/2010 2:34:40 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Jesus wants you to have a good life and help those that need it. He likes to talk with you. It isn’t a huge mystery.
I have conflicts that come and go but prayer will put them at ease and resolve them. No prayer, No resolve.


37 posted on 01/09/2010 3:04:39 AM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Because some have and more will.

Bingo.

Osteen doesn't teach that.

38 posted on 01/09/2010 3:44:39 AM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: Gamecock

OK. Still, I’d like to know why so many here believe that Christianity and success are mutually exclusive.


39 posted on 01/09/2010 4:11:31 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Because worldly success is mutually exclusive with Wordly success. The Bible says we will suffer for our faith. Over and over. God is not Santa Claus.

Osteen knows the Truth. That is why it makes him squirm when he is pushed towards it. Hoe knows the truth will cost him money


40 posted on 01/09/2010 4:18:53 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Gamecock

And what’s the how/where/why of his denial of Christ? I keep seeing that being referred to, but I have no idea what anyone’s talking about.


41 posted on 01/09/2010 4:40:19 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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