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"As Christians we're called to love our enemies, even praying for those who seek to do us harm," Mansholt said.

Aye, there is no disputing the words of Christ from the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew's Gospel.

Yet, in these days after Epiphany we cannot forget that Matthew is the only Evangelist to tell us of the murderous action of Herod against the Innocents of Bethlehem.

I have yet to find it in my heart to love or forgive that tyrant king.

1 posted on 01/09/2010 8:18:06 PM PST by lightman
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Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Christ is Born, Glorify Him!

2 posted on 01/09/2010 8:19:05 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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If the parishioners of Reformation had spent a few years showing love and compassion for the newborns Tiller was killing daily in their own town, and ministered to him to stop his evil, perhaps this unfortunate turn of events could have been avoided. But I suppose they just didn't want to get involved in something so yucky, and anyway, he probably was a generous contributor to the church.
4 posted on 01/09/2010 8:32:29 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Wasn’t the BTK murderer also a member of ELCA in Kansas?


6 posted on 01/09/2010 8:44:33 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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I have no sympathy for George Tiller. The man was proud to be performing obviously evil acts on the most helpless and unprotected people alive. Government sanctioned him doing so, a Governor was happy for him to do so in her state. The “church” he belonged to was happy to have him as a member. The guy is a sicko and all of society around him patted him on the back and told him what a great public service he does killing third trimester babies.

I’m not all for everyone just going out and killing whoever they think deserves to die. In this particular case of this man having decades of murdering babies before they’ve been born, I do not feel bad at all for him dying the way he did. He died a much less painful and more merciful death than those he butchered himself.


8 posted on 01/09/2010 9:02:04 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: lightman

His former LCMS congregation excommunicated him.

This was meant for his repentance, his healing from sin, and his salvation.

He refused this Godly medicine, and joined a “tolerant’ (sin-tolerant, really) ELCA parish.

Everything else that happened was a result of Tiller’s refusal.

Gospodi pomiluj!!!!


9 posted on 01/10/2010 1:00:38 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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We are instructed to forgive those who harm us individually. We are not instructed to forgive those who harm others. This is a grave misunderstanding. We can only forgive people who have harmed ourselves.


11 posted on 01/11/2010 12:17:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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Pinged from Terri Dailies


12 posted on 01/17/2010 10:26:28 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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