Wicca’s Invitation

Institute on Religion & Democracy ^ | January 14, 2010 | Jeff Walton

[AnAmericanMother]

An older parishioner at St. Alban’s Church, Helma Lanyi arrived from the Roman Catholic Church ten years ago after taking issue with Catholicism’s hierarchy and patriarchy.

Thank heavens. Now take "Sister" Joan Chittester, "Sister" Donna 'Abortionist' Quinn, and all the rest of the way-out sisterhood with you.

The more of those idiots we can persuade to leave the Church, the better for all of us. They can do pretty much whatever the heck they want over at Whacko Wiccan Central, a/k/a The Episcopal Church.

[AnAmericanMother]

Actually, the article distinguishes between pagan practices, in the first part, and more traditional Christian efforts to minister to women who feel "unappreciated", in the second part. That's where Falls Church is mentioned, and the pastor interviewed makes clear that faithful Christians' prayers are Jesus-focussed, and that the problem with magic and paganism is that it is "me-focussed" and tries to make higher powers DO things.

Sometimes it does succeed, btw, but there's always a price to be paid. Far better not to mess with that stuff. It's real, and it's dangerous. Too many of these foolish women are just playing around and don't really believe in any of it.

[AnAmericanMother]

Because they don't believe in it.

Most of the anti-religion crowd DO believe in the Lord, but are alternately attacking Him and running from Him just as hard as they can.

[lightman]

I remember reading about this several years ago on "The Unofficial Confessing Movement Page" http://ucmpage.org operated by conservative United Methodists.

If I recall correctly the article mentioned that a female UMC Bishop had been "Croned" in such a ceremony.

Kyrie Eleison.

[lightman]

Found the web page on the Confessing UM site which alleges that UMC Bishop Susan Morrison participated in a "Croning Ceremony":

http://ucmpage.org/news/wicca_story6.html

[cothrige]

Sensing a need for women who had experienced losses through miscarriage, abortion, stillbirth, or early childhood death, the 275-year-old parish began the service in 2008.

Which of these things is not like the others?

Actually, just to be slavishly accurate, abortion is simply the expulsion of the foetus from the womb before it is viable. This may be either spontaneous or induced, but in either case it is still an abortion. Lately it has become common to call spontaneous abortions miscarriages, but I am not sure how accurate this really is. At one time a miscarriage was the expulsion of the embryo, and abortion of a foetus, and so they were not really synonymous. But, in any case, it really is possible for a woman to suffer from an abortion and have done nothing to cause it to happen.

[Constitutionalist Conservative]

Everything you said may be true, but I’m fairly confident that they weren’t talking about ‘spontaneous’ abortions.

[cothrige]

Everything you said may be true, but I’m fairly confident that they weren’t talking about ‘spontaneous’ abortions.

Yep, I am afraid you are right about that.

[dog breath]

If a person finds a spiritual connection to the universe they can find it in a religion created out of earlier religions. Many people follow Christianity which is part Judaism, part Mithraism with a dash of the cult of Isis and other things thrown in. Others follow Islam which was started by a lunatic. As long as Wiccans arn’t flying planes into buildings, they can worship freely in America.