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Haiti-Judging, God's Judgments & Christian Love
The Curious Space Between Quix's ears Plus the New Testament | JAN 15 2010 | Quix

Posted on 01/15/2010 9:44:27 PM PST by Quix

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To: Quix; Joya

BTTT.


51 posted on 01/16/2010 2:42:29 PM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Joya

THX THX MUCH.


52 posted on 01/16/2010 4:21:52 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
"I fail to find or observe the least bit of evidence that you know the Mind of God on such matters, at all.

I recognize that you ASSUME that you do.

The Scriptural and historical evidence is on Robertson’s side."

Then you recognize wrong. I'm not the one presuming to know the mind of God. That would be Robertson. I also don't assume anything....least of all what God is thinking....but....it sure sounds like you're doing an awful lot of assuming here.

I'll say it again. Pat Robertson is a pompous @ss to have said what he said. If you actually think Robertson is a real Christian, this is where you and I shall forever disagree.

53 posted on 01/16/2010 7:18:03 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: Quix

Until tomorrow then. Have a blessed Sunday.


54 posted on 01/16/2010 9:05:20 PM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: XenaLee

I’ll say it again. Pat Robertson is a pompous @ss to have said what he said. If you actually think Robertson is a real Christian, this is where you and I shall forever disagree.

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Perhaps you could explain . . .

How on earth does a Christian

labeling Robertson as a pompous . . .

occur

WITHOUT ASSUMING

that God agrees with that label of Robertson????

Puzzling.

Or did God speak to you through a burning pointy finger?


55 posted on 01/16/2010 9:07:54 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Well...it (among other things) is real simple, Quix. I’ll try to draw you a verbal picture.

That is MY opinion of Robertson. You know....mine (hint: not God’s). You keep projecting here....and insinuating that I’m speaking for God when it sounds more like you (and Robertson) are the ones that claim that privilege.

Robertson gives Christians everywhere a bad name. Here’s a sample of just a few of the idiotic statements he’s made in the past: http://boortz.com/nuze/200601/01062006.html.

And here is info about his 700 Club: http://www.forgottenword.org/patrobertson.html

He’s a phony, a false prophet and more of a politician than a man of faith. I’m sad that you can’t, don’t or won’t recognize it....and instead insist on being so snarky. Robertson has made himself and his family extremely wealthy by using religion and professing (pretending) to speak for God.

And...while it’s really nice that you have so many fans on your threads that agree in lock-step with your every word (apparently).....

you really should “”gird your loins”” (hehe) and prepare yourself for the fact/reality that not everyone does or will agree with you 100% on every single subject, topic or issue. That’s why it’s called ......
discussion.


56 posted on 01/16/2010 10:13:11 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee

I gather my request for an explanation of how your earlier assertion could jive with facts

was too difficult a request to meet.

I think I’ll go on trusting what I perceive to be God’s perspective on Pat Robertson. Pat is, after all, God’s servant, not yours.


57 posted on 01/16/2010 10:19:42 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: XenaLee

Maybe I could paint a better word picture . . .

1. “A” says that “C” is a popous dork.

2. “A” says or implies that “A” either hears God better; or knows God’s perspective or attitude on such things better; or some such better than “C.”

3. Otherwise, “A” would logically construe reality that “C” had as much of a handle on God’s perspective of such things as “A” does.

4. Since “A” castigates “C’s” relationship with God as such a farce/horrible/a sham etc. then logically, “A” must think A” has a MUCH BETTER relationship with God; is much more in agreement with God on such matters.

5. Which, without a shred of evidence to offer otherwise, . . . leaves the impression that “A” is at least as arrogant, foolish and missing the boat on God’s sensibilities on such matters as they accuse “C” of being.

Seems pretty elementary to me. Sorry the task was so difficult.


58 posted on 01/16/2010 10:25:07 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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"I think I’ll go on trusting what I perceive to be God’s perspective on Pat Robertson. Pat is, after all, God’s servant, not yours."

You (and Pat) keep second guessing and speaking for God. Imagine your surprise on Judgement Day when you find out you were (gasp!) wrong. What a shock that'll be, eh?

If Pat were really God's servant and ergo, speaks for God.... you'd 'think' that he'd manage to be correct with his little prophesies...at least some of the time. Kinda makes it look like God is feeding Pat bad info. I think I'll go on believing in the bible where it warns about false prophets. You know....false prophets that keep making prophesies to make more money....and keep being WRONG.

59 posted on 01/16/2010 10:37:57 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: Quix
"I think I’ll go on trusting what I perceive to be God’s perspective on Pat Robertson. Pat is, after all, God’s servant, not yours."

You (and Pat) keep second guessing and speaking for God. Imagine your surprise on Judgement Day when you find out you were (gasp!) wrong. What a shock that'll be, eh?

If Pat were really God's servant and ergo, speaks for God.... you'd 'think' that he'd manage to be correct with his little prophesies...at least some of the time. Kinda makes it look like God is feeding Pat bad info. I think I'll go on believing in the bible where it warns about false prophets. You know....false prophets that keep making prophesies to make more money....and keep being WRONG.

60 posted on 01/16/2010 10:37:58 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: Quix

What is really elementary is your mismanagement of the alphabet and your abuse of logic.

Three little words.....

yada, yada, yada (and a yawn)


61 posted on 01/16/2010 10:41:21 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee

I’m confident God is much better at apportioning out right and wrong

than you or I.

I remain underwhelmed at folks projecting all kinds of stuff onto Pat.


62 posted on 01/16/2010 10:50:07 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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You should be underwhelmed at his track record re: being wrong about so many predictions (supposedly coming from God through Pat).

You should, as a Christian, at the very least be open-minded re: questioning his motives and his integrity, when professing to speak for God. Failure to do so might be construed as hero worship..or even (dare I say it? I dare...I dare!)...falling for anything.

As blind and in denial as you are to Robertson’s BS, I shudder to think what you’ll do when the AC shows up.


63 posted on 01/16/2010 11:00:22 PM PST by XenaLee
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I suspect I’m a few dozen times more informed about the AC than you seem to be.

I’ve considered Pat’s flaws.

I think he’s in better shape than you seem to be.


64 posted on 01/16/2010 11:04:22 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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"I think he’s in better shape than you seem to be."

Oh definitely. At least....financially speaking.

I wonder how many more millions in donations Pat received after making THIS false prediction:

Link to Fake Prophet

65 posted on 01/16/2010 11:14:39 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee

Evidently . . . the thought is that eventually God’s mind about Pat might be changed.

LOLOLOL


66 posted on 01/17/2010 7:28:15 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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What exactly is the basis for the strong objection to Pat Robertson’s statement, Biblically grounded and grounded in historical fact as it so obviously is?

It appears to me, that nominal Christians, and non-Christians purporting to be Christian, who do not understand the Bible at all, are reacting out of fear that it sounds too “judgmental.” Never mind that God clearly does raise up leaders of the nations, even nations themselves, and just as surely casts them down. They also do not understand that the rain falls on the just and unjust alike, as it surely did there and will here as well, soon enough.

And, never mind that the “patriotic” founding lore of Haiti cites this voodoo ceremony, this pact, wherein a spirit was conjured and a blood sacrifice offered, to aid them in killing their French overlords. This is “patriotic” to them, just as much as our Founding Fathers, Godly men all, are to us.

There’s an element of defensiveness among those who think the whole, ugly occult truth makes a certain church look bad, too, for having tolerated it for centuries, as well. I do know the vodouisants hate the “shouter” churches, and regard them as invaders. That tells me something, that the 10% or 20%, or whatever percentage one cares to cite, of Haitians who are not practitioners of vodou, are “shouters.” Charismatics. Evangelicals. Converts, in other words. So, there is at least some hope among the ruins. There is also hope that the error of allowing occult within the walls of the majority church has been made clear, and that that will be rejected and cast out.

Pat Robertson has his peculiarities, his strengths and his weaknesses, as do we all, and I do not agree with him even close to all the time. I’m really not that wild about him, frankly. But, he spoke truth and was attacked for it, just as he spoke truth about Chavez in Venezuela and was attacked for it.

I’ll speak out for Pat Robertson when he speaks truth. He is being very unfairly denigrated in this instance, which is just the latest of many. He seems to have a certain gift of clarity, when dealing with that particular region of the world, imho. He also has a way of speaking polemically, that fosters great debate and hopefully better understanding.

That’s not to say he has the same gift elsewhere. His political instincts on the domestic front appear rather skewed.

That’s just my little old two cents on the matter, offered free of charge. Take it for what it’s worth, lol.


67 posted on 01/17/2010 7:59:03 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

EXCELLENT POST.

THANKS TONS.

I agree wholesale.

I don’t know that he’s my favorite Charismatic.

However, I respect him a lot.

I certainly respect that CBN has been raising up Christian atnys and media personnel . . . certainly front line troops in greatly pervasive enemy territory.

And I think his OPERATION BLESSING aid org is tops up there with Samaritan’s Purse.

Yeah, he says some startling things that sometimes I wish were said differently.

However, I think God may have a different perspective. Christ said a lot of startling things that the RELIGIOUS of His earthly pathed days wanted not said at all or said very differently.

God seems to use such startling pointed statements in His own way. I’m not about to fuss with that. He does happen to be GOD, after all!

And Pat is HIS servant, not mine.


68 posted on 01/17/2010 8:18:59 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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