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Natural and Unnatural (father of 5 shocks mother of 1)
cmr ^ | January 27, 2010 | matthew archbold

Posted on 01/27/2010 10:31:28 AM PST by NYer

I was over a friend's house picking up a buddy of mine this past weekend. He wasn't ready so I ended up hanging out for a few minutes with his wife and her friend. I'd met the other woman before but don't know her all that well. She was talking a mile a minute about how "natural" she lives and how great she feels. Of course, she was telling us that we should be living the same way. She lectured me about different herbs and how she's detoxing her body.

She's been "living naturally" since New Year's Day. (Her words)

She said she feels so much better ("fantabulous!!!" was her word) and she's been doing a lot of reading about all the "unnatural" chemicals people put in their bodies and how harmful it all is.

My buddy came into the room and rolled his eyes but I didn't know her well enough to joke about it since she seemed to take it all very seriously so I listened to her. Actually, I kind of pretended to listen by just nodding my head and occasionally grunting.

In the conversation my buddy joked about me "detoxing" my five children.

"What?!" gasped the woman. "Really? You really have five kids?"

One of the funny things about writing a Catholic blog is you sometimes forget that having five kids is a lot. But around the Catholic blogosphere I read about so many people who have that many children and many more that I forget how countercultural it is to have more than two children.

Then she asked me if I was crazy?

I responded I was. (I mean, how else do you respond to that?)

"My gosh," she said, slowing herself down for a moment. "I couldn't even imagine. One's enough for me. I'm not having anymore. My husband wants more but thank God for the Pill."

Ms. Natural Living is on the Pill?

I couldn't hold me tongue so I just threw it out there. "How does all this natural living coincide with all the chemicals you're putting in your body from the Pill?"

And then she said that she needs to be on the Pill because it allows her to live naturally. If she had more children then she wouldn't have the time to live the way she wanted to live, she said.

I held my tongue after that. Remember, I was the crazy one.

Erin Manning wrote:

What a horrific lie it is, to convince millions upon millions of healthy woman that their bodies' natural fertility is a terrible disease for which a decades-long prescription to a drug engineered to fight against it is not only necessary, but imperative!
It is rather an oddity that with all this focus on natural foods that many women still don't consider birth control in the same manner.


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To: varyouga
Food production in this country has become too industrialized, powerful and unregulated, IMO. There are too many shortcuts, chemicals and additives that are pressured for approval by the food lobby. I find it sad that it’s nearly impossible to eat now without ingesting man-made chemicals.

Actually I think you are mistaken about the cause of this. It is the vast number of silly government regulations that are the problem not a lack of regulation. My mom went on her firs mission trip to New Orleans after the hurricane and was told she was going to run a field kitchen for the SBC disaster relief unit. She went down to where the got the food and was loading up on bags of potatoes and vegetables when the administrator said they had to get all prepackaged stuff because they had passed all of the requirements for institutional cooking and the fresh stuff had not.

She had not made mashed potatoes from anything but potatoes since, well, ever and was not pleased about having to use the instant, potato like substance they made her use.

41 posted on 01/27/2010 12:00:28 PM PST by Gordon Pym
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To: varyouga; SnakeDoctor
Do either of you watch Anthony Bourdain's "No Reservations" on the Travel Channel? This week's segment took him to Bretagne in the northwest of France. He met with a chef who sold his restaurant and has now gone into limited, home-grown foods. He also raises "happy" pigs in a clean environment. He made an astute comment on animals raised in large production facilities where their movements are constrained. It produces fear in the animal and that releases toxins.

Ultimately, you are what you eat.

42 posted on 01/27/2010 12:13:58 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: SnakeDoctor
After marriage, knee-related birth-control is a tough sell.

I tried to convince my wife that were "natural alternatives" to knee-related birth control, but that turned out to be a tough sell too.

43 posted on 01/27/2010 12:21:25 PM PST by lafroste
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To: La Lydia

The original birth control pill is an aspirin - held firmly between the knees. ;-P


44 posted on 01/27/2010 12:22:50 PM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: NYer

One would think that most animals that end up being prey feel fear before the slaughter — whether they are slaughtered commercially, or after being chased. Not seeing a lot of predators dying due to excessive fear toxicity of their meals.

I’m not really buying into the evils of commercial farming. A farming system that raises more animals to maturity using less resources and less time can produce more food for more people. This is a good thing.

Reminds me a little of the liberal groups that raised hell that people in impoverished countries were being fed genetically modified crops. Apparently it is better to starve than to eat pest-resistant crops.

SnakeDoc


45 posted on 01/27/2010 12:28:28 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Life is tough; it's tougher if you're stupid. -- John Wayne)
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To: ravingnutter; Anoreth

Now that’s funny. A., see post #4 for a snicker.


46 posted on 01/27/2010 1:04:39 PM PST by Tax-chick (I haven't tried it, myself, but I'm told it's a delicacy in Japan.)
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To: NYer

We watch Anthony Bourdain on the Netflix beeber. He’s a goofball, but I’m totally loving his South America shows. I could *so* move to Chile and have another nine children!


47 posted on 01/27/2010 1:08:56 PM PST by Tax-chick (I haven't tried it, myself, but I'm told it's a delicacy in Japan.)
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To: La Lydia

There is natural birth control, but it involves one’s knees.

Has no one heard of condoms or pulling out? I know its high tech and all, but it works. There are other strategies I won’t go into. Shoosh.


48 posted on 01/27/2010 1:15:35 PM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Tax-chick
I could *so* move to Chile and have another nine children!


49 posted on 01/27/2010 1:48:17 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

Or Uruguay.


50 posted on 01/27/2010 1:53:45 PM PST by Tax-chick (I haven't tried it, myself, but I'm told it's a delicacy in Japan.)
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To: NYer
Funny thing.

Many now consider it unnatural to have any children. I am not joking.

Sadly, I suspect we won't be able to have that many kids, but when my bride and I talk of wanting more it makes a lot people annoyed.

51 posted on 01/27/2010 7:31:52 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: NYer
Grew up on a hog farm.

If those sows were afraid, they didn't show it. My Dad had a strain of war devil hogs that would charge bulls, and make the bull run.

The bigger danger of the large factory farms is that you are increasing the likelihood of a disease outbreak. To many concentrated in one spot.

52 posted on 01/27/2010 7:41:40 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: goodwithagun
As someone who has been charting for years, that doesn’t work as birth control either.

It does for women who ovulate at the same time every month, such as myself. I planned all four children that way and got pregnant whatever month I wanted to.

Works for some of us.

53 posted on 01/27/2010 7:46:37 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: redgolum
Grew up on a hog farm. If those sows were afraid, they didn't show it.

He was referring to the industrialized farms where the pigs are kept in a confined space and not allowed to move. They are fed through mechanized means and their waste matter removed on conveyor belts.

54 posted on 01/28/2010 9:58:51 AM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

pulling out? you’re joking of course or sadly mistaken.


55 posted on 01/31/2010 8:32:55 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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