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Oprah 'Bristles' at Bristol Palin's Abstinence Pledge
NC Register ^ | January 27, 2010 | Danielle Bean

Posted on 01/27/2010 12:19:12 PM PST by NYer

NYmag.com

Oprah Winfrey, the daytime television guru who encourages viewers daily by telling them they have the power to achieve any goal they might set for themselves, questioned Bristol Palin’s goal of abstaining from sex until marriage in a recent interview:

“In a Jan. 22 interview, Oprah criticized Bristol Palin, the teen daughter of former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, for recently telling In Touch Weekly that she was pledging abstinence until marriage. ‘I kind of bristled,’ Oprah began, ‘when I saw this—where you said, ‘I’m not going to have sex until I’m married. I can guarantee it’ ... I’m just wondering if that is a realistic goal. I think teaching responsibility, teaching, ya know, a sense of judgment about it, but is that a realistic position?’”

Bristol was unmoved by Oprah’s questioning, saying that abstinence until marriage was a good goal for all young women to have.

“But when you make the statement ... you don’t think you’re setting yourself up? Is that a realistic position?” Oprah pressed.

Bristol answered, “It’s a realistic goal for myself.”

I find Oprah’s “realism” here so old and tired. I wonder if there are any other goals a young woman could set for herself that would elicit this kind of “bristling” and “realism” from Oprah?

Going to college? Becoming president? Curing cancer? Go for it! But don’t kid yourself into believing you might be capable of doing something as difficult as abstaining from sex until you are married.

I’ll bet Bristol had big plans and dreams for her life that did not include becoming a mother at the age of 19. Seeing premarital sex as risky behavior with potentially devastating consequences shows maturity, not naïveté. Every one of us should applaud and encourage a young woman like Bristol Palin who dares to put chastity and life-long goals ahead of her hormones.

Apparently, though, the advice anti-abstinence types would offer young women like her is: Dream big! As long as those dreams don’t include anything unrealistic like waiting until you are married to have sex.

They can keep their advice and realism. I’d rather my kids put their faith in a different kind of “public figure” anyway:

“I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.”—Philippians 4:13


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abstinence; bristolpalin; opray; pain

1 posted on 01/27/2010 12:19:14 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...

With fame and fortune comes the false belief that one’s own statements are more eloquent than those of “lesser nobility”.


2 posted on 01/27/2010 12:21:15 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

“abstinence until marriage” - back in the ‘hood, we nevah heard of such a thang...


3 posted on 01/27/2010 12:22:21 PM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: NYer

If teaching abstinence is pointless because “kids will have sex anyway,” then one might also ask why teaching about birth control is any less pointless. Won’t kids just ignore that advice too, especially if they are told about the failure rates of all birth control methods other than abstinence?

And who knows whether Bristol Palin used birth control or not anyway? What would be the difference if she used it and it failed? She’d still be a Republican politician’s daughter, and therefore a punching bag.


4 posted on 01/27/2010 12:22:59 PM PST by cvq3842 (A fool and his liberty are soon parted.)
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To: NYer

Guess Oprah believes she should same as many copulatory organs as possible before making a selection. I was going to say “permanent”, but then corrected myself. In Oprah’s world, permanance in a sexual relationship is probably as quaint as absentence.

Funny how times change.

In the world I was raised in, “slut” was the term for people who thought like that.

Guess I should be more open-minded (sarcasm.)


5 posted on 01/27/2010 12:24:49 PM PST by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: NYer
A Christian recognizes the human tendency to sin, makes an effort not to sin, and repents of those occasions where they did sin.
Oprah recognizes the human tendency to sin, says "What the heck!" and revels in the world.
6 posted on 01/27/2010 12:25:21 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: NYer

‘With fame and fortune comes the false belief that one’s own statements are more eloquent than those of “lesser nobility”.’

So true.


8 posted on 01/27/2010 12:27:20 PM PST by aimee5291
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To: choctaw man

or what a father is for that matter, other than a baby daddy. Truly sad.


9 posted on 01/27/2010 12:27:52 PM PST by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: NYer
Oprah has forgotten her roots.....
10 posted on 01/27/2010 12:28:34 PM PST by cranked
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To: NYer
Why is abstinence so bad?

We took/take our children to church and also try to teach them how to do the right thing and we make every attempt to follow those teachings ourselves.

Our daughter made it through college and got married last year. She said waiting until marriage was more than worth it. God bless her.

11 posted on 01/27/2010 12:28:51 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: NYer
I’m just wondering if that is a realistic goal. I think teaching responsibility, teaching, ya know, a sense of judgment about it, but is that a realistic position?

Because abstinence, waiting until marriage before engaging in sexual intercourse isn't *responsible*, a good *sense of judgment*??

It seems to only be unrealistic to anyone who can't envision being able to control one's impulses, no matter it be eating, rage, sex, talking in a movie theater, etc., etc., etc.

12 posted on 01/27/2010 12:30:16 PM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: NYer
Oprah is a positive spiritual danger.

(Apropos of nothing much, I also think that of Guideposts magazine. And Weirdnetdaily.)

13 posted on 01/27/2010 12:31:46 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: cvq3842
If teaching abstinence is pointless because “kids will have sex anyway,” ... Then providing food and medical care to the poor is pointless because they're just going to die anyway.

great example of sophistry and the left's high "moral" ground is built upon them

14 posted on 01/27/2010 12:32:38 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: NYer

Better she was a lesbian like Oprah?


15 posted on 01/27/2010 12:34:29 PM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: NYer

Provisions of the Hayes Movie Code [died 1967 and the race to the bottom began]

The Production Code spelled out specific restrictions on language and behavior, particularly sex and crime — though Hollywood developed ways to get around some of these restrictions and keep audiences coming back to the theaters. It prohibited nudity, suggestive dances, and the ridicule of religion. It forbade the depiction of illegal drug use, venereal disease, childbirth, and profanity. The language section banned dozens of “offensive” words and phrases, leading to the shocked outcry from many moviegoers when the film Gone with the Wind included the word “damn.” Criminal activity could not be depicted on film in a way that led viewers to sympathize with criminals. Murder scenes had to filmed in a way that would discourage imitations in real life, and brutal killings could not be shown in detail. The sanctity of marriage and the home had to be upheld. Adultery and illicit sex, although recognized as sometimes necessary to the plot, could not be explicit or justified and were not supposed to be presented as an attractive option.


16 posted on 01/27/2010 12:35:00 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: NYer

What else would any thinking person expect from an atheistic socialist?


17 posted on 01/27/2010 12:40:22 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: NYer

Or as we say in da’hood-Her do do don’t stink!


18 posted on 01/27/2010 12:44:40 PM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: NYer
The Queen of Sanctimony's pontifications reveal her inner psyche. She is desperate for sex and assumes that everyone else is as well. She also projects her complete lack of standards and self-control onto everyone else.

Anyone who in fact exhibits a set of standards and a willingness to practice self-control must be maligned and mocked in order for her to maintain any self-esteem since she doesn't possess the character to exhibit the same.

19 posted on 01/27/2010 12:45:03 PM PST by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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To: NYer

Oprah’s abstainence is involuntary.


20 posted on 01/27/2010 12:46:19 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

now if she only abstained from twinkies...


21 posted on 01/27/2010 12:51:35 PM PST by slapshot (""USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away)
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To: OldMissileer

**Why is abstinence so bad?**

You nailed it! BTTT!


22 posted on 01/27/2010 12:57:12 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: slapshot
You gotta be kidding, this more to O's tastes.


23 posted on 01/27/2010 12:59:40 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: cvq3842
If teaching abstinence is pointless because “kids will have sex anyway,” then one might also ask why teaching about birth control is any less pointless. Won’t kids just ignore that advice too, especially if they are told about the failure rates of all birth control methods other than abstinence?

As the previous 30 years of sex education in the US has shown, teaching about birth control has done little if anything to slow down the rate of teenage pregnancy. If kids DO use birth control at all, they aren't consistent about it, which has the same effect as not using it at all.

24 posted on 01/27/2010 1:09:48 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: NYer
Oprah is one of show biz's host of thread-bare sluts. They all are adamant that other women should never support the ideal of chastity(abstinence). To do so constitutes a standing rebuke to their own bad choices and lack of values. What other possible reason could this sideshow freak have, attacking a young woman simply for endorsing virtue in her own life?
25 posted on 01/27/2010 1:11:23 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ex-snook

It’s amazing how many “conservatives” here on FR and in the media have no objection to the things forbidden by that code.


26 posted on 01/27/2010 1:15:36 PM PST by hellbender
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To: SuziQ

All that govt.-school sex education has mainly hyped the sexual desires of the young and informed them in great detail about every sexual practice and orientation, while indicating that all were equally valid choices and that kids should simply be “ready” and practice “safe sex.” We now have oral sex being regularly indulged in by kids of 12 or so. I would bet that millions of adults in previous centuries never experienced that in their entire lives, yet never felt unfilfilled or deprived.


27 posted on 01/27/2010 1:23:05 PM PST by hellbender
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To: NYer

I thought Horpoh grew up Baptist? You’d a thunk she retained just a little bit of that knowledge. Guess not.


28 posted on 01/27/2010 1:23:57 PM PST by vpintheak (How can love of God, Family and Country make me an extremist?)
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To: NYer

My guess from this is that Oprah is having sex with someone.\

She obviously isnt abstinent.

Ok Oprah who is the lucky guy, or is it a girl?’Op is it B.O.B.? Inquiring minds and all that.


29 posted on 01/27/2010 1:30:21 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Rumors are she is about ready to come out of the closet and reveal her longtime girlfriend, Gayle King, has really been her lover.


30 posted on 01/27/2010 1:31:32 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: NYer
Bristol answered, “It’s a realistic goal for myself.”

That is an excellent answer to d0prah's question which came from a very shallow POV. Bristol is speaking for herself not anyone else. Of course, if it is a realistic goal for one person it obviously can be a realistic goal for just about anyone.

31 posted on 01/27/2010 1:44:08 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: ZULU
In the world I was raised in, “slut” was the term for people who thought like that.

Ditto!

Guess I should be more open-minded (sarcasm.)

Lol ... bite your tongue.

32 posted on 01/27/2010 1:44:13 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: cvq3842

Back in the day, girls made petting into a fine art. They were. by and large, in control of the situation. . Also back in the day, the boys knew that the honorable thing was to marry the girl if you wanted to have sex with her. This had been the case for a long time. Guys in the service who went to England found themselves confused because the rule there was that the guy decided the matter. Lots of men who married English girls did so because they wanted to do the right thing.


33 posted on 01/27/2010 1:47:51 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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... I’m just wondering if that is a realistic goal. I think teaching responsibility, teaching, ya know, a sense of judgment about it, but is that a realistic position?’”

What is knowledge of responsibility or judgment without commitment to act on that knowledge? What is commitment without confidence in your will to stick to your commitments? Is it realistic to know the concepts and have no tools or desire to employ them?

d0prah is a fool with a head full of ideas and no understanding of how or why discipline and discernment should be applied to them.

34 posted on 01/27/2010 2:10:17 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: rintense

Oprah’s lover uses batteries.


35 posted on 01/27/2010 2:19:59 PM PST by chuckles
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To: NYer; All
Excuse me but I think most of you are missing the point about why the left is against abstaining from sex until after marriage, and why they push queer sex and want it taught in school.

It has to do with one of the goals of communism, which is to completely destroy the moral fabric of a society and replace it with the state.

This is apparent if you study how they have taken control of many countries(all have failed of course). They destroy the family(sound familiar) unit because this leaves fewer loyalties and breeds dependence on the state. Indiscriminate sex also destroys loyalties and discourages ties to other people. This crap from Oprah is all part of the plan, whether she knows it or not, but I strongly suspect she does.

36 posted on 01/27/2010 2:39:53 PM PST by calex59
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To: chuckles

‘Oprah’s lover uses batteries.’
Probably 6 volt lantern batteries. Still seeking relevance.


37 posted on 01/27/2010 2:43:54 PM PST by OriginalChristian (Sarah Palin, America's Governor...)
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Bristol Palin is a champion to come out and speak for abstinence before marriage. Oprah has guided so many down an inappropriate and downright evil path. What has she, if anything, done for the good of America?

"If we place a piece of tape on our wrist (the first person we have sex with) there is a strong bond. When we break that relationship, it is like tearing the tape off our arm - it hurts. Then when we meet another person and become intimate with them we put the same piece of tape back on our arm. But this time we find that the bond isn't as strong and so it is with the tape and the relationship. And each time it hurts a little less when the tape is ripped off and each time the tape is put back on, the bond is that much weaker" --Fr. Gerard Monaghan
38 posted on 01/27/2010 2:54:42 PM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: NYer
Oprah bristles


39 posted on 01/27/2010 3:44:32 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (denial springs eternal.)
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To: NYer

At this point, it doesn’t even take morality for Bristol Palin to decide on abstinence: it just takes common sense. She has a child, a job, and an education to pursue, and the last thing she needs is another boyfriend who just wants to use her.


40 posted on 01/27/2010 4:23:18 PM PST by Tax-chick (I haven't tried it, myself, but I'm told it's a delicacy in Japan.)
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To: OriginalChristian
Maybe a 12v trolling motor deep cycle?
41 posted on 01/27/2010 6:10:03 PM PST by chuckles
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