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Mall to Christians: God talk banned!
WND ^ | January 30, 2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/29/2010 10:50:00 PM PST by bogusname

Arguments have moved to the appellate court level in a California case in which a man talking to two willing strangers in a shopping mall was arrested because the subject of the conversation was God.

The case developed several years ago when a youth pastor was arrested at the Galleria Mall in Roseville, Calif., for having a conversation about religion with two other people.

Matthew Snatchko, who works with youth at his church, was interrupted in the middle of a conversation by a security guard. A second guard joined the confrontation and told Snatchko he was being placed under citizen's arrest for "trespassing."

The pastor said he agreed to leave but instead, the guards grabbed him, roughly shoved him against a storefront window and handcuffed him tightly enough to draw blood. Snatchko later was taken to the police station where he was booked on charges of battery and trespassing...

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christianity; god; mall
Didn't I hear just recently that the muslims are thinking about bombing the shopping malls? They kicked Christ out of school and we had Columbine. We separated church from state and we got Obama. These people are going to reap what they sow and it won't be Christians that the Lord will use to bring in their harvest.
1 posted on 01/29/2010 10:50:00 PM PST by bogusname
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To: bogusname

I would own the mall. See several of it’s former employees in jail for false arrest and kidnapping then tear it down abd build a church.


2 posted on 01/29/2010 10:55:53 PM PST by BigCinBigD (")
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To: bogusname
No more of that currency with "IN GOD WE TRUST" printed on it either!
3 posted on 01/29/2010 10:57:55 PM PST by airborne ("Peace, Love, Dope" has now become "Hope, Change, Obama" !!!)
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To: BigCinBigD

LOL! That sounds good.


4 posted on 01/29/2010 10:58:15 PM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: airborne

Yeah, if they won’t have our God they shouldn’t have our money either.


5 posted on 01/29/2010 11:01:21 PM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: bogusname
Besides the ban on conversations with strangers about religion or politics, the mall also bans any clothing with religious or political messages.

I wonder if any of their stores sell the ever popular “Che” T-shirts.

I think that shirt may be disqualified on both counts.

6 posted on 01/29/2010 11:08:15 PM PST by Pontiac
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To: bogusname; mrreaganaut

That is interesting. The Promenade Mall in Temecula allows a Christian clothing store (C28) to host(at least once a year) a one day Christian music festival and outreach concert at the mall, with Pastors speaking, testimonies and altar calls. The get thousands people who show up every time.

Far cry from this stunt at Roseville, and yeah they guy should sue.


7 posted on 01/29/2010 11:10:27 PM PST by reaganaut (It's futile to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance)
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To: Pontiac; mrreaganaut

the mall also bans any clothing with religious or political messages.

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What??? That is almost enough to make me drive up there with my Christian t-shirt collection and my lawyer.


8 posted on 01/29/2010 11:12:16 PM PST by reaganaut (It's futile to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance)
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To: reaganaut

“Christian music festival”

That’s pretty cool. I wish our local mall would have something like that.


9 posted on 01/29/2010 11:14:15 PM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: bogusname

It is cool. There is one coming up in February. I would love to see more of them and they get a great response.

http://www.c28.com/events.asp

Off topic, when did WND start carrying anti-tea party ads?


10 posted on 01/29/2010 11:17:58 PM PST by reaganaut (It's futile to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance)
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To: reaganaut

Thanks for the link.

“anti-tea party ads?”

You caught me completely off guard. I never read their ads so I’m in the dark. I’m going to go look and see what you’re talking about. :-O


11 posted on 01/29/2010 11:22:40 PM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: reaganaut

Whoa...you are dead right. They sure do. What is up with that? Is Farah that hard up for cash? That is very bad news.


12 posted on 01/29/2010 11:26:22 PM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: bogusname
Looks like a fancy place.

http://westfield.com/galleriaatroseville/stores/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseville,_California

13 posted on 01/29/2010 11:28:34 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Luke 22:36 "Then said he unto them...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.")
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If the malls don’t want you to teach, legally, they can do it. However, almost the precise thing happened to Peter & John in Acts 4. I suggest when anyone tries to stop you that you quote verses 19 & 20, then get ready for Revelation 2:10.


14 posted on 01/29/2010 11:29:59 PM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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First time I went to the page, there was an ad for “theteapartyisover.org” or about how we are dangerous and they shouldn’t let our “ideas get a foothold”.

I’ll try to get a capture.


15 posted on 01/29/2010 11:30:23 PM PST by reaganaut (It's futile to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance)
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To: bogusname

Is this the Simon family again....no rest for the wicked in their case.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=254377225584


16 posted on 01/29/2010 11:36:43 PM PST by wardaddy (Good Yankees in Massachusetts, I salute you all from bended knee in appreciation)
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To: reaganaut

I appreciate reaganaut. Much thanks for the heads up.


17 posted on 01/29/2010 11:42:10 PM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: bogusname

I was just as shocked as you were to see the ad.

Back on topic, the Christian clothing store C28 does NOT have a store in this particular Westfield mall (no surprise there) but they do have stores at some other Westfield malls.

Does anyone know if this policy is set mall by mall or by corporate?


18 posted on 01/29/2010 11:54:40 PM PST by reaganaut (It's futile to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance)
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"What??? That is almost enough to make me drive up there with my Christian t-shirt collection and my lawyer."

Make sure you get a couple of your Black friends to enter the mall from the opposite side, dressed in Obama shirts.

Let's see if you get arrested and they don't.

(You can guess where my money would be bet!)
19 posted on 01/30/2010 12:16:16 AM PST by shibumi (Health and well being for S. and L. - in Jesus name we pray!)
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To: bogusname

Well....an ass kicking might have taken place if that were me.

But, we are just talking hypothetically.


20 posted on 01/30/2010 12:23:18 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: shibumi

I might have to hire some. I don’t have any friends who have Obama shirts. :)


21 posted on 01/30/2010 12:28:24 AM PST by reaganaut (It's futile to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance)
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Anti-tea party ad on WND

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22 posted on 01/30/2010 12:30:16 AM PST by reaganaut (It's futile to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance)
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To: BigCinBigD
Sounds like a helluva lawsuit to me.

I don't like lawsuits in general, but this is a blatant act of discrimination.

23 posted on 01/30/2010 3:20:23 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Northern Yankee

A civil suite against the mall. The owners of the mall. The guards. The city. The police officers. And criminal charges against the security (mall cops) and the mall management and the city.

At the least I would ask for 100 Million and a free pass to the food court.


24 posted on 01/30/2010 4:09:01 AM PST by BigCinBigD (")
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To: bogusname

Let’s see where she’s going with this.

We’ve got nothing but time, and she doesn’t own the movement.

The Tea Party is bigger than any one person!


25 posted on 01/30/2010 4:11:08 AM PST by airborne ("Peace, Love, Dope" has now become "Hope, Change, Obama" !!!)
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To: airborne; bogusname

OOPS! Wrong thread!

Back to bed 4 me..........


26 posted on 01/30/2010 4:12:17 AM PST by airborne ("Peace, Love, Dope" has now become "Hope, Change, Obama" !!!)
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To: BigCinBigD
There ya go! ;)

Sometimes you wonder if this is the United States of America, or Red China!

27 posted on 01/30/2010 4:18:03 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bogusname

Owned by the Westfield Group which owns malls all over the world.

Let them know what you think:

http://westfield.com/corporate/site/contact-us/


28 posted on 01/30/2010 4:26:08 AM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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To: esquirette

Great work esquirette. Thank you very much.


29 posted on 01/30/2010 5:24:53 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: airborne

“OOPS! Wrong thread!”

I did that same thing about two weeks ago. :-)


30 posted on 01/30/2010 5:27:48 AM PST by bogusname (Banish All Liberals)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

“Looks like a fancy place.”

Yeah, the banners make it seem a lot like a - church?


31 posted on 01/31/2010 8:31:39 AM PST by mrreaganaut (Long ago when men cursed and beat the ground with sticks, it was witchcraft. Today, it's golf.)
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A church devoted to materialism and consumerism. They apparently can’t stand competition.


32 posted on 01/31/2010 3:24:00 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Luke 22:36 "Then said he unto them...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.")
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