Posted on 01/30/2010 3:45:12 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
So the children who have seen the “being of light” are meeting Satan? Is that your theory?
I don’t buy it.
+1
Carlos Castaneda had an interesting take on this.
He described this “thing” as just that, a thing, not God or a demon, that is sometimes encountered by ordinary people in conditions of severe stress, when their awareness has been knocked askew from their normal perceptions. People can also perceive it as an accomplishment, after a lot of training as well, in a much more systematic process.
However, he notes, people invariably interpret this thing as either Jesus or God, or as their deity, and male if they are male, or female if they are female. They also imagine it to be full of warmth and love and kindness, etc., even imagining other people praying to it.
But the truth is that it is none of that. Castaneda calls it “the mold of man”, like a mold that stamps out plastic toys. Specifically, it is the mold, or pattern, used by the human species to ensure energetic pattern conformity, so that human offspring are energetically like their parents. All other species of life have their own molds, which they use for the same purpose.
Yet this purely utilitarian function is missed by those that perceive it, who pray to it, shamelessly ask for favors, and think and brag for the rest of their lives that they have seen God, once they come back to normal awareness. Or doubt themselves and think they were fooled by a demon.
Castaneda concludes that some people get to see the mold more than once, and soon snap out of their illusion that the mold is anything special. It isn’t even self-aware. It is just a thing.
An interesting take on things, whether or not you like Castaneda.
Not exactly Biblical, but still my favorite “Twilight Zone”
An old man and his dog were walking down this dirt
road with fences on both sides, they came to a gate
in the fence and looked in, it was nice - grassy,
woody areas, just what a ‘huntin’ dog and man would like, but, it had a sign saying ‘no trespassing’ so they walked on.
They came to a beautiful gate with a person in white robes standing there. “Welcome to Heaven”
he said. The old man was happy and started in with his dog following him.
The gatekeeper stopped him. “Dogs aren’t allowed,
I’m sorry but he can’t come with you.” “What
kind of Heaven won’t allow dogs? If He can’t come in, then I will stay out with him. He’s been my faithful
companion all his life, I can’t desert him now.
“ “Suit yourself, but I have to warn you,
the Devil’s on this road and he’ll try to sweet talk you into his area, he’ll promise you anything, but, the dog can’t go there either. If you won’t leave the dog, you’ll spend Eternity on this road “ So the old man and dog went on.
They came to a rundown fence with a gap in it, no gate, just a hole. Another old man was inside. “Scuse me Sir, my dog and I are getting mighty tired, mind if we come in and sit in the shade for awhile?” “Of course, there’s some cold water under that tree over there. Make yourselves comfortable “ “You’re sure my dog can come in? The man down the road said dogs weren’t allowed anywhere.” “Would you come in if you had to leave the dog?” “ No sir, that’s why I didn’t go to Heaven, he said the dog couldn’t come in. We’ll be spending Eternity on this road, and a glass of cold water and some
shade would be mighty fine right about now. But, I won’t come in if my buddy here can’t come too, and that’s final. “
The man smiled a big smile and said “Welcome to Heaven.” “You mean this is Heaven? Dogs ARE allowed? How come that fellow down the road said they weren’t?” “That was the Devil and he gets all the people who are willing to give up a life long companion for a comfortable place to stay. They soon find out their mistake, but, then it’s too late. The dogs come here, the fickle people stay there. GOD wouldn’t allow dogs to be banned from Heaven. After all, HE created them to be man’s companions in life, why would he separate them in death?”
Author Earl Hamner
The Twilight Zone
Interesting post and interesting (and humorous, beethovenfan) thread. BTTT.
Carlos, eh? I haven’t seen him mentioned since my college days except by Robert Spencer. He once at had an interesting commentary about him at jihadwatch a couple of years ago. Singleness of purpose BUMP!
Someday this place reminds me of Alice’s Restaurant. /humor
You guessed it..
Frank Stallone!
I’m not sure why you included me in your post address, ‘cause I’m not the one blind guessing.
BTW, there’s no such book by Ken Ring. Perhaps you meant “Omega PROJECT?”
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I had a near death experience once. I didn’t see any light, or any beings of light, I just felt an incredible calm.
Common sense would dictate that good people would not go to hell when dead, and even more common sense would indicate that Satan wouldn't deceive dead people, there would be no need for it.
It goes back to Enki and Enlil, Enlil off earth and Enki cast down to Earth were brothers at one time working together. Enki created mankind on Enlil’s orders but when mankind started to reproduce on their own and became to large in numbers Enlil ordered them destroyed by the flood but Enki who loved his creations sought to save them by having them build a ark. Hence God and the Devil, Now you decide which is which!
He “officially” died in 1998, with the announcement that he had died of liver cancer, which was certified by a doctor who had just arrived from, then returned to, South America, without greeting anyone else. Then his body was said to be privately cremated and the ashes dispersed somewhere.
Then the women he was associated with took off in several directions, and his critics stated that they assumed the women had committed suicide, though there was no confirmation of that. The bones of one woman, who it had been claimed was an extraterrestrial, were found.
As far as his critics were concerned, this proved beyond any doubt that they were all frauds. However, a more objective observation is that they fulfilled everything they had set to do, by the numbers, so just left and will not be heard from again.
Cleargreen Foundation, operated by their collective students, is still in operation and holding public workshops.
A) I am familiar with the Sumerian Creation myths and their similarity to Genesis.
B) They do not reflect my personal belief. So no decision is needed. Mormons believe that Satan and Jehovah (Jesus) are brothers, I do not.
C) WHY did you post this to me in response to my post about the religion forum rules?
Interesting.
“Specifically, it is the mold, or pattern, used by the human species to ensure energetic pattern conformity, so that human offspring are energetically like their parents”
Sounds like something from a movie on cable.
I meant that it’s a blind guess when you take one set of reported experiences and try to claim they’re explainable in terms of another separate and independent set of experiences, as if not seeing the facts which make the two sets distinct.
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