Please read this and get back to us.
This is what we believe. If you can read that document and tell us with a straight face that "not once is Christ or God [sic, Christ IS God] mentioned as having any authority", there really isn't much more anyone can say.
Campion wrote; "Please read this and get back to us. This is what we believe. If you can read that document and tell us with a straight face that "not once is Christ or God [sic, Christ IS God] mentioned as having any authority", there really isn't much more anyone can say."
I made that statement concerning the proclamation this thread is based on and stand by it. He is demanding fidelity to the magisterium, not God or Christ by name. Only the magisterium.
I read the article you referenced. It basically states the same. To my surprise he goes to great lengths making scripture inerrant and required for understanding God and His purpose. That is about as close to giving standing to Scripture I have seen from a Catholic.
That was short lived as he goes on to state, in essence, the same theme as the original article. Scripture is only relevant when defined by the Church and it supports it's traditions. This forms the bases for the magisterium and it's teachings and define what Catholics are to rely on for all truth. That makes the magisterium their god.
I saw a post awhile back in the same vain. When asked; "Who is the head of the Catholic Church"? sorry I don't remember the person's name but I know he is Catholic, answered by stating; "Jesus is the head but the magisterium is the teaching authority."
That makes Jesus a figurehead only, subservient to the magisterium.
The Holy Spirit is our teacher sent from God as promised by Jesus, not an unscriptural entity conceived by man.
The Catholic Church and it's dogmas are based on a small number of scriptures taken out of context.
The claim that Jesus establish an earthly church to be administered by the apostils and handed down to their successors is just that, a claim with no bases in truth. The apostils were not given any gifts, commands or responsibilities that are not given to all believers.
Most people believe that Christ's Church started at Pentecost with the gift of the Holy Spirit. There were 120 men and women disciples in the room at the time. Only 11 were apostles. They got nothing the other 109 got.
I have made this point in previous posts with no response about how God was not shy about how he wanted the Old Testament/Covenant earthly tabernacle built and outfitted and the priesthood which manned it and their duties. Start reading about Exodus 20:22 and continue on through Leviticus to Numbers 19 for a reminder.
After seeing God's penchant for detail, could you please show me where He defines an earthly priesthood and the duties He has given those priests for the New Testament/Covenant.
The only Priest for the New Covenant I can find is Christ and He is in heaven as described in Hebrews. Especially 7-8-9-10.
Maybe that is why He told us; "Seek yea first the kingdom of heaven." and gave Peter and us the keys to the kingdom of heaven and not an earthly building.
BVB