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The Book of Eli - the Bible at the Movies
Examiner.com ^ | January 7, 2010 AD | Mariano Apologeticus

Posted on 02/09/2010 8:43:52 AM PST by MarianoApologeticus

The premise is that Eli guards The Book of Eli (do not if he wrote it or why his name is also that of the book) that is said to hold the knowledge which could redeem the world. Carnegie and his posse are out to get The Book of Eli and the shenanigans ensue. Carnegie’s adopted daughter, Solara, ends up becoming Eli’s guide. The official Warner Brothers film description states that Eli is “Driven by this commitment and guided by his belief in something greater than himself.”

Actually, judging by more recent commercials; it appears that “the book” is the Bible and The Book of Eli is his story. Although, knowing Hollywood if the book is, indeed, the Bible it will turn out to be hollowed out and contain Al Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth—think about it: a hole in the ozone layer and the Earth is in bad shape! Also, all that it takes to go from “Eli” to “Al” is a copyist error! Perhaps Bart Ehrman will write “Misquoting Eli”…

An interesting thought experiment is to juxtapose the premise behind The Book of Eli and the Bible and consider them in more ways that just a redemptive message being guarded by some, though not kept secret, while others failingly attempt to discredit it…

let us imagine that somehow they have all…been destroyed. What now?...

Now, let us further consider that the over 34,000 manuscripts for the Bible have all been destroyed. What now?...

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; bookofeli; christianity; hollywood; moviereview

1 posted on 02/09/2010 8:43:52 AM PST by MarianoApologeticus
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To: MarianoApologeticus
You might want to correct this:

“do not if he wrote”

2 posted on 02/09/2010 8:45:53 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: MarianoApologeticus

In the movie, the Bible was ultimately preserved...but wouldn’t want to give any spoilers, to the unique plot twist near the end of the movie.


3 posted on 02/09/2010 8:57:22 AM PST by dawn53
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To: MarianoApologeticus

I can’t wait to see this movie.


4 posted on 02/09/2010 9:02:39 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (God to Obama: Don't think I'm not keepin' track. Brother.)
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To: ChocChipCookie; dawn53

Boring. Both my wife and I were waiting for it to end. We almost left, but we kept expecting it to get better.

We did like the premise, but the execution was painful.

It’s just our opinion...take it for what you paid for it!


5 posted on 02/09/2010 9:15:37 AM PST by Skenderbej (No muhammadan practices his religion peacefully.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

While this movie is NOT for the whole family, repeat it is NOT for the whole family, it has teh most profound, blatant Christian content I have ever seen in a fiction-based film.


6 posted on 02/09/2010 9:15:53 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: MarianoApologeticus

It was a fair movie. Neat plot twist at the end. It was basically an old time western set in the future—only with lots of “R” rated stuff (rape scenes, general butchery, ugly language).


7 posted on 02/09/2010 9:17:27 AM PST by Antoninus (The RNC's dream ticket: Romney / Scozzafava 2012)
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To: ConservativeDude
"...it has the most profound, blatant Christian content I have ever seen in a fiction-based film."

I saw the film a few weekends ago and really liked it. I kept wondering how this film ever got the green light in Hollywood...

8 posted on 02/09/2010 9:18:50 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I loved it.


9 posted on 02/09/2010 9:22:30 AM PST by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: MarianoApologeticus
Yes, Eli is a Christian man attempting to protect the last remaining copy of the Bible in a bleak, devastated World. The problem is, the movie is unnecessarily profane, nauseatingly violent and in the end the Bible is placed in a library between the Torah and the Koran.

If you think using Christianity as a plot gimmick and if you appreciate gang rape, hardcore brutality and a numbing overuse of the "F" word, you'll be able to sit thru "The Book of Eli". There was a way to tell this story. This wasn't it.

10 posted on 02/09/2010 9:24:20 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: MarianoApologeticus
Now, let us further consider that the over 34,000 manuscripts for the Bible have all been destroyed. What now?...

Okay, for the sake of argument, let's take that as a hypothetical.

If such a case means the gospel is lost forever, wiped out by the enemies of God, then God has lost and His enemies have proven their superiority, right? If that's the case, then God isn't really as great as He claims, is He?

So, let 'em give it their best shot - as they've been doing ever since the serpent fooled Eve. And with what success? God still brought His plan to fruition, just as He planned. And we know all about it.

Thousands upon thousands of manuscripts. The Old Testament translated into, and the New Testament written in, a language so widespread that the Bible can be translated reliably into any language on earth. Any literate person can read it for himself, and no one is dependent on priest, prophet or preacher to tell him what God says.

This "only surviving copy" plot is a bit of a stretch, then, to say the least. No, the difficulty is not in getting a copy of the Bible - there are plenty of them gathering dust on coffee-tables. The challenge is in living the life of a disciple of Christ.

(But nobody makes movies about humble disciples bearing their everyday burdens, loving their wives and husbands and children, and laying up treasure in heaven, do they? Who would remark about such a movie, "I can't wait to see it!"? Discipleship has to be spiced up with some sex and violence and dirty language before we'll give it our attention.)
11 posted on 02/09/2010 9:30:49 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Joe 6-pack

exactly! I kept thinking, “how did they get away with saying THAT???!!!”

talk about politically incorrect...nothing like this movie, ever!


12 posted on 02/09/2010 9:34:04 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Deb
If you think using Christianity as a plot gimmick and if you appreciate gang rape, hardcore brutality and a numbing overuse of the "F" word, you'll be able to sit thru "The Book of Eli".

I don't think the movie used Christianity as a plot gimmick. This was a remarkable movie about living by faith instead of sight as well as the way that God always preserves his Word regardless of how much man screws up the world. As for the violence and brutality, at times it did feel a little over the top, but there was not much you would not find in the Bible itself. The movie is clearly rated R for violence and language. You can choose not to see it.

13 posted on 02/09/2010 9:35:23 AM PST by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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To: Deb

Thank you for that evaluation. You sound like you have my kind of sensibilities. Yet another movie I won’t be seeing.


14 posted on 02/09/2010 9:40:36 AM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: newheart

moreover....the premise is that the world has basically been incinerated, and (as Eli says) many people say that whatever happened was caused by the Book. There is a real post-armageddon feel to this. The viewer is not sure just what happened, except that the Bible was at the center of it all - which, by the way, is very good theology.

Now...accept the preceding carnage at face value, and then you have to wonder: would the survivors be illiterate? yes. would they use naughty words? yes, i think they would. would they be violent? you betcha.

if they had NOT had the naughty words and the violence, then they could not have offered the opening premise.

so I think this movie just states the truth of the depravity of man.

But the larger and much more interesting Truth comes out, loud and clear: A sovereign God will preserve his Word, supernaturally.

That is an awesome (and true) message.


15 posted on 02/09/2010 9:40:41 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: MarianoApologeticus
I liked the movie because it at least showed the importance of the Bible to mankind. Of course there was nothing "Biblical" about the movie, but you takes what you can get. I think it explains to the pagan unwashed what a Prophet was about. They just heard from God and did what He said. The girl was astounded that Eli would dedicate his life to a "voice" in his head and follow it without fear for 30+ years. It also explains how God will have His way even using a blind man to accomplish what other men would never be able to do. I thought the street battle where Eli was shooting people on the roof with a pistol from 50 yards away was quite a feat for a blind man. Sorta "ninja" like. "Be the bullet", don't ya know.

The only question I had after the movie is "Why not shoot movies straight from the actual written Word"? Passion of the Christ did pretty good. The Ten Commandments also. DaVinci Code and Angels and Demons type movies just confuse people that have never read the Bible. I'm sure there are several movies in Revelations that would be scarier than The Omen and other rip offs about the end times.

In the Eli movie, you have to wonder where Jesus was in the 1000 year Reign of Christ. Was Eli a Christian that wasn't Raptured? Lots of stuff missing in the movie. Just serves to confuse the lost. If you get your religion from the Discovery Channel, I guess it fits.

16 posted on 02/09/2010 9:41:24 AM PST by chuckles
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To: newheart

I would suggest walking through some of the most Godless gangland’s in the SI and other hell holes in the world. They are full of people acting like animals. I thought it was a little over the top, but not too far.


17 posted on 02/09/2010 9:41:27 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I am light skinned and don't speak with a dialect. Can I be President?)
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To: newheart
I saw it. It was an unnecessarily vile and profane Kung Fu movie with not one single act of Christianity and the inference that religion was the cause of the apocalyptic "flash". In the end, after all that, the Bible is put on a shelf with the other great religious books to complete the set.

Like I said, there's a way to tell this story and this wasn't it.

18 posted on 02/09/2010 9:54:13 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: newheart
I think you "get it" for the intent of the movie. The filthy language, murder, and rape are just the way people really are. I always find it strange that Christians deny the reality of man. If anyone should realize that, it should be a redeemed Christian.

If you look at what the world would look like if there were no Christians, save Eli and his Bible, I don't think the movie would be that far from the mark. If a pagan was starving and thirsty, does anyone really think he wouldn't shoot someone for a drink and eat them?

Christ went among the pagan unwashed and I'm sure He saw and heard some salty stuff. He thought it no different from some of the people he saw and heard in the Temple. If you are going to witness to dope addicts and whores, don't be surprised to hear an "F" bomb or two. If we witness to choir members, maybe we can live in a "clean, holy, sanctified, world.

19 posted on 02/09/2010 10:00:27 AM PST by chuckles
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To: Deb
....."not one single act of Christianity".....

That's the point, there were no Christians except Eli. Do you think the natural state of man is to exude kindness and morals? Christians are blamed today for the world's ills, they were blamed in Roman days, and I'm sure they will be blamed till Jesus comes. If we attacked Iran today, would the world say we did right or Iran was blameless? It has always been Christians in the way of Satan having his way. It will always be so. The "end" you spoke of was the Bible was the first book printed after they fixed their press, just as the press was invented to print the Bible for the masses.

Your "lens" for observing the movie is set and I think you missed some of the messages sent. I find it remarkable for Hollywood to make such a movie, and you think it was a disaster. It depends on your outlook I suppose. Hollywood will not team up with Billy Graham as a consultant so you takes what you can get. The movie wasn't Biblical, but there are themes that are.

20 posted on 02/09/2010 10:13:37 AM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles
Christ went among the pagan unwashed and I'm sure He saw and heard some salty stuff. He thought it no different from some of the people he saw and heard in the Temple.

I seem to recall the Apostle Paul wishing (in writing, no less!) that some of his detractors would emasculate themselves....If he wrote that down, one can only imagine what he was thinking.

21 posted on 02/09/2010 10:28:29 AM PST by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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To: chuckles
Well, my "lens" was re-set while I was watching it. And I didn't say I didn't like it. I got it. I love Denzel and the backstory to the movie is it wouldn't have gotten made without him. But telling people it has a "Christian theme" is not true. It has a Christian plot thread which you may feel is worth sitting thru 2 hours of brutality, injustice and vile language. I was sorry I brought my sweet, Christian teenage niece who was horrified by it.

I'm a writer in Hollywood and my late hubby wrote more than one "edgy" movie in his career so I'm not some emotionally fragile, wisp of a girl who faints when "Ragging Bull" comes on. I was just sorry the screenplay was so heavy-handed. It could have been a blessing to a wide audience. And Denzel could have gotten that one made too.

22 posted on 02/09/2010 10:29:14 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Well, I suppose we can agree to disagree. The movie isn’t perfect, but as a work of art coming out of Hollywood, it is amazing and your suggestion that there is not one act of Christianity in it is even more amazing. But it certainly your choice to view it in that way.

BTW, just curious, but what is the reference for your tag line? Sounds a bit violent to me.


23 posted on 02/09/2010 10:37:31 AM PST by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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To: Terabitten
Some of the Psalms had a kick to them as well. David, a man after God's own heart, prayed some nasty stuff on some of his enemies.

Also probably one of the the most controversial verses in the Bible was when Jesus told his Apostles to sell their cloaks and buy a sword. What was He saying there? He had just spoke about being persecuted and I feel He was saying that you don't start a fight, but you have every right to defend yourself because the avalanche of criticism is coming. It seems many Christians today feel Christ wants them to lay down and be slaughtered for the cause. Jesus did that FOR us so we don't have to.

24 posted on 02/09/2010 10:39:30 AM PST by chuckles
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To: newheart
My tag means what you think it means, punk.

(just kidding)

25 posted on 02/09/2010 10:43:01 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

LOL!


26 posted on 02/09/2010 10:46:23 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ConservativeDude
moreover....the premise is that the world has basically been incinerated, and (as Eli says) many people say that whatever happened was caused by the Book. There is a real post-armageddon feel to this. The viewer is not sure just what happened, except that the Bible was at the center of it all - which, by the way, is very good theology.

Now...accept the preceding carnage at face value, and then you have to wonder: would the survivors be illiterate? yes. would they use naughty words? yes, i think they would. would they be violent? you betcha.

if they had NOT had the naughty words and the violence, then they could not have offered the opening premise.

so I think this movie just states the truth of the depravity of man.

But the larger and much more interesting Truth comes out, loud and clear: A sovereign God will preserve his Word, supernaturally.

That is an awesome (and true) message.

I agree with you 100% about this movie. My wife, was turned off by the violence and the language, but I simply told her "Do you really think that a world in which there is one remaining Bible, and one remaining believer, that was so utterly destroyed by war/famine/pestilence would be like Sunday School?" I don't know exactly where in theology a story like this could fit (tribulation maybe?) but even if it's a million Bibles and a million Believers, as some point the real world will make this movie look tame.

27 posted on 02/09/2010 10:48:53 AM PST by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: ConservativeDude

I generally liked this movie, just one question about part of the movie though, where did he get that cool machete?

I need to add it to my sword collection.


28 posted on 02/09/2010 10:51:41 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Brett66

absolutely...the sword/machete work was fantastic....


29 posted on 02/09/2010 10:54:24 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Deb

ROFL.


30 posted on 02/09/2010 10:57:22 AM PST by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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To: chuckles

Well, when I knew his name was Eli, I was reminded of Elijah, who was a man of God who did a slice and dice number on the prophets of Baal at Mount Carmel.


31 posted on 02/09/2010 11:10:14 AM PST by kingcanuteus
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To: Deb

But consider this.

Ten years ago the book would have been the Koran or some such thing. Society is gradually shifting.


32 posted on 02/09/2010 3:02:59 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: kingcanuteus
Half the time I speak of Jesus, I have to counter the flower child image that has been etched into people’s minds over the decades. Jesus is the same God that killed every person and animal on the planet, save 8, in a flood. He destroyed two cities for their sexual sin, and will eventually judge the world in Revelations. He did show mercy and grace on the cross, but He does have another side that people seem to forget about.
33 posted on 02/09/2010 9:35:32 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Joe 6-pack

*** I kept wondering how this film ever got the green light in Hollywood...***

Perhaps the Christian theme was so open that Hollywood didn’t recognize it!;-)


34 posted on 02/10/2010 8:37:55 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GP-35 Grande Puissance-1935 and S&W .44)
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To: chuckles

***DaVinci Code and Angels and Demons type movies just confuse people that have never read the Bible.***

My worthless Brother-in-law (If you know him he probably owes you money)actually believes there is something to this “DaVinci Code”. He also knows more about religion than anyone even though he never reads the Bible. If you don’t believe it just ask him! ;-) His bible is the History, Discover and NGO TV channels.


35 posted on 02/10/2010 8:44:55 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GP-35 Grande Puissance-1935 and S&W .44)
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To: Deb

***Yes, Eli is a Christian man attempting to protect the last remaining copy of the Bible in a bleak, devastated World.***

Any difference between this and THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW in which an atheist is trying to protect a Gutenberg Bible from being burned for heat?


36 posted on 02/10/2010 8:51:05 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GP-35 Grande Puissance-1935 and S&W .44)
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