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Rowan Williams Issues 'Profound Apology' to Gay Christians
The Times (UK) ^ | 2/9/10 | Ruth Gledhill

Posted on 02/09/2010 9:19:43 AM PST by marshmallow

The Archbishop of Canterbury today issued a "profound apology" to the lesbian and gay Christian community.

In a powerful address to General Synod Dr Rowan Williams warned that any schism within the church would represent of a "betrayal" of God's mission.

But he made clear that he regretted recent rhetoric in which he has sought to mollify the fears of the traditionalist wing of the church.

The Archbishop is from the Church's liberal Catholic wing and a man who once espoused equal rights for gays within the Church. More recently he has adopted a conservative line for the sake of Church unity.

Today he said: "There are ways of speaking about the question that seem to ignore these human realities or to undervalue them.

"I have been criticised for doing just this and I am profoundly sorry for the carelessness that could give such an impression."

Addressing the even more contentious debate over gay ordinations - something which threatens to split the Church further with the expected consecration in May of lesbian Canon Mary Glasspool as a bishop in Los Angeles - Dr Williams said it had not been helped by those who ignored the fact that many regular worshippers are gay, as well as many "sacrificial and exemplary priests".

He made it clear there was blame on all sides of the argument that has brought the Church to the brink of splitting. He pleaded for Anglicans battling over gays and women bishops to cease fighting, admitting that he and other bishops might have to settle for a two-tier communion if it is to survive at all.

In his wide-ranging address at Church house Westminster, Dr Williams made clear that the ordination of women bishops should not go ahead at the expense of the Church's Anglican Catholic wing................,

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: apology; catholic; christian; coe; europeanchristians; gaychristians; homosexualagenda; moapb; religiousleft; rowanwilliams; sin
+Rowan is really at the end of his tether. From his rhetoric, I have no idea where he stands on these issues and neither does he, it appears. In his desperation to hold the Anglican communion together, he's playing the part of an increasingly disoriented juggler.
1 posted on 02/09/2010 9:19:43 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Theology by Committee is a slippery road leading to nothing.


2 posted on 02/09/2010 9:21:17 AM PST by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: marshmallow

no wonder Christ is unwanted in Britain...and to think all the lives lost there for so many hundreds of years over how to worship.

all for naught..

Damn shame...literally


3 posted on 02/09/2010 9:25:17 AM PST by wardaddy (Book of Eli.....awesome.....Denzel Washington was perfect....Mila Kunis is smoking..nothing PC)
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To: marshmallow

Let’s see how much of a “lesbian and gay Christian community” there is at the Great White Throne judgement when G*D says to them “depart from me I NEVER knew you”!


4 posted on 02/09/2010 9:26:29 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: marshmallow
The Archbishop is from the Church's liberal Catholic wing

The "liberal Catholic wing" of the Church of England? How many contradictions in one sentence?

5 posted on 02/09/2010 9:29:06 AM PST by iowamark
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To: bboop

A house divided against itself cannot stand.


6 posted on 02/09/2010 9:30:47 AM PST by Obadiah (Democrats and their life partners, the MSM)
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To: marshmallow

When a religious leader bases his teachings on the polls, it’s not going to work out well long term IMHO. A church either has “the truth” or it doesnt. If it changes with the winds it means and stands for nothing.


7 posted on 02/09/2010 9:33:27 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: marshmallow
Rowan The Fuzzy apologizes to the people that have ruined his church.

Perhaps he should schedule a trip to Israel to dig up Sodom and Gomorrah and apologize to them for a "rash" action on God's part.

Especially since the church is so much more enlightened now.

8 posted on 02/09/2010 9:35:47 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: marshmallow

The church of “Cake or Death?” is doomed to irrelevancy.


9 posted on 02/09/2010 9:37:04 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: iowamark

I’m guessing the author knows very little about the Catholic Church or the history of the Church of New Muzzieland


10 posted on 02/09/2010 9:40:41 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marshmallow

If you can’t tell where he stands, then he stands against God.

It is a never-fail test.


11 posted on 02/09/2010 9:57:15 AM PST by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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To: marshmallow

Words fail me.


12 posted on 02/09/2010 9:58:17 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Contrary to what politicians expect us to do, let's stop and think. " ~Thomas Sowell, of course)
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To: Tax-chick

Schism is not intiated by the faithful, but the faithless.

Go suck a rock, Rowan.


13 posted on 02/09/2010 10:07:13 AM PST by BenKenobi (;)
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To: marshmallow

My guess is we won’t be getting a “flee from the wrath to come” message from the archbishop.


14 posted on 02/09/2010 10:15:44 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("What is your only comfort, in life and death?" "That I an not my own, but belong, body and soul...")
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To: BenKenobi

That was pretty good.


15 posted on 02/09/2010 10:16:37 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Contrary to what politicians expect us to do, let's stop and think. " ~Thomas Sowell, of course)
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To: marshmallow

There is no such thing as a Gay Christian. Saddam and Gamora comes to mind.


16 posted on 02/09/2010 10:31:23 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: marshmallow

I’m sure there are gays in many congregations. There are also many theives, liars, blashpemers, adulterers, and other assorted sinners.

The mistake he made was in singling out one clearly sinful thing and excuse it as ‘normal’.

We’re all broken, none are worthy, none. How this idiot has lost sight of that and let his church be ripped apart when he saw the VERY SAME THING happen to the Episcopalians is just breathtaking.


17 posted on 02/09/2010 10:43:18 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: marshmallow
Very profound. Now whether that's profoundly stupid, profoundly naive, profoundly gutless or he's just a profound jackass - haven't decided.
18 posted on 02/09/2010 11:03:50 AM PST by greatplains
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Goes to show you the consequences of the Protestant Reformation.


19 posted on 02/09/2010 11:39:48 AM PST by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pope Pius XII

I beg to differ with you, it goes to show you the consequences of SIN.


20 posted on 02/09/2010 7:15:31 PM PST by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: irishtenor; Pope Pius XII

And I demand an apology.


21 posted on 02/09/2010 7:21:09 PM PST by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: BenKenobi

schism was and is a primary goal of the homosexual and feminist activists who have infiltrated the Communion in England, the US and Canada.


22 posted on 02/10/2010 4:17:31 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: greatplains

I’m in the ‘profoundly jackass’ section.


23 posted on 02/10/2010 10:11:14 PM PST by BenKenobi (;)
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