Posted on 02/10/2010 9:08:47 AM PST by marshmallow
I don’t belong to a Church which makes decisions about something as fundamental as the ordination of women priests by voting in a quasi-parliamentary General Synod. But, if I did, and if that Church then prepared to take the logical step of ordaining women bishops, I’d ask myself a simple question. Will these ordinations be valid? Then I stay. Invalid? Then I go.
I am not saying that if you are an Anglo-Catholic who opposes women’s ordination then you must now seek to join the Ordinariate that Pope Benedict has set up for ex-Anglicans. Lots of conservative “Catholic Anglicans” don’t accept aspects of the Magisterium and regard “going over to Rome” as a last resort. In that case, please join the Orthodox or some continuing Anglican body. On the other hand, plenty of Anglo-Catholics will conclude that the Synod’s actions, coinciding with the publication of Anglicanorum coetibus, are a sign that God is telling them to enter into full communion with the Holy See. They should be welcomed – and a damn sight more enthusiastically than the Catholic bishops have done until now, as I think the Pope made plain last week.
But if you are an Anglo-Catholic who wants to stay in the Church of England, then surely it’s time to drop these fantastical demands for oversight from a bishop “untainted” by women’s ordination. You can’t simultaneously believe that the C of E is the English branch of the Catholic Church and hold that it has been led astray on a matter as basic as the ordination of women bishops, presbyters and deacons. You don’t have to go rushing into the arms of Affirming Catholicism, but you do have to face reality – for the first time since 1992.
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I left (4 years ago) ... bye.
If you can’t get over it, come join the Catholic Church.
Pace e Bene.
When men mess around with God’s work it always comes to this type of silliness. I left the Anglican communion long ago because of it.
Fortunately my relationship with god does not depend on any priesthood
For all those Anglicans who want to hold true to their REAL beliefs, the doors of the Catholic Church have been opened by Pope Benedict XVI.
We welcome you.
(Did you know that there are several former Anglicans here on FR that regularly post to Catholic posts?)
I just finished watching season three of the Tudors. It’s hard to imagine staying in a church founded under those circumstances. Come back to Roman Catholicism...you Anglicans do Roman Catholicism better than we do...you could help us get back to our original traditions. The Roman Catholic Church would be a better and stronger place all around if the English Church would come home. Please just come home.
Nope. Keep your pope and all of your sactimony. I do not need it.
And we dont need you.
Thats the point of this thread.
You stay or you leave, your choice.
well, except for the Only Priest forever, in the order of Melchizadek ... Jesus is our High Priest.
I’m a former anglican and I approve of this message.
Swim the Tiber just like I did!
I have no argument with that. my resposne was to somone who thinks that the Anglican church is bad because of the way the Tudors (actually just Henry VIII) brought it into existence. I could have been rude and made some vary unfriendly comments about the roman church and how it came into existence. I chose not to, just as I chose to leave the formalized box of man’s religion some years ago
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or the Orthodox (you must remember that our Anglican brethern have been brought up on medieval tales about the Church and it may be too much of a stretch for them to become Catholic. If instead they join another Apostolic Church, that is good enough for me!)
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“I’m a former anglican and I approve of this message.
Swim the Tiber just like I did!”
I’m a cradle Low Church Episcopalian. “Swimming the Tiber” was not an option for me. So, I went the other direction and “swam the Rhine”. I’m now happily ensconsed in the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod which is a great fit for former Conservative Low Church Evangelical Episcopalians. The Theology fits perfectly.
Whatever you do, don't just drop out and no longer do anything on Sunday mornings.
I swam the Rhine myself, but from Dordrecht with the Mennonites. I can see the appeal in the theology, but I think the Catholics have gotten it right.
All the rationales for the ‘reform’ movement no longer exist, therefore, I’d argue the division serves no purpose.
“I could have been rude and made some vary unfriendly comments about the roman church and how it came into existence.”
How did it come into existence? I’m not aware how saying that Peter was the first pope is at all an unfriendly comment.
No where in the New Testament will you see anything about a pope or Peter being the ‘first’. To juxtapose The Nazarene’s comment that Peter had spoken well and that on this I will build mMy church is nuts. The grammar alone does not allow this notion. But that aside. Take a close look at the rituals and practises of the roman church and note how many of them come from the ancient babylonian traditions. Moreover, Peter was not in Rome Paul was.
I could go on but I have no real desire get into an all out slug fest
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