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REVERENCE FOR THE BIBLE -Mormon- (OPEN)
LDS Newsroom ^ | January, 2008

Posted on 02/23/2010 9:54:36 AM PST by greyfoxx39

During the past several years, scholars, religious leaders, journalists and the general public have steadily shown an increased interest in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Much of this attention has been focused on the question of whether it is a Christian faith. Central to this inquiry is the Church’s relationship with the Bible. Many have wondered whether Latter-day Saints believe in the Bible at all. Still others have supposed that the Church uses the Bible only when convenient, while shrugging it off as an inessential part of scriptural canon. With so many conflicting voices participating in this discussion, it may seem difficult to know where the Church stands on this issue.

The truth is that the Church reveres the Bible as a sacred volume of scripture. Latter-day Saints cherish its teachings and engage in a lifelong study of its divine wisdom. Moreover, during worship and instruction services the Bible and its teachings are pondered and discussed. To increase biblical understanding, the Church provides extensive resources and tools: lesson manuals, cross-reference materials, Bible maps, a Bible dictionary, and articles in various magazines. Thus, the Bible is much more than simply a collection of antiquated writings and revelations that have only scant relevance to the modern world. On the contrary, it stands in the center of the Latter-day Saints’ spiritual lives.

In a recent sermon, Church apostle Elder M. Russell Ballard characterized the Bible as the “bedrock of all Christianity” and one of the “pillars” of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Furthermore, he described the Bible as a miracle: “It is a miracle that the Bible’s 4,000 years of sacred and secular history were recorded and preserved by the prophets, apostles, and inspired churchmen. … It is a miracle that the Bible literally contains within its pages the converting, healing Spirit of Christ, which has turned men’s hearts for centuries, leading them to pray, to choose right paths, and to search to find their Savior.” It instills real, tangible power in the lives of Latter-day Saints and offers practical solutions and spiritual guidance that inspire them to overcome challenges and trials.

There is a broad range of approaches within the vast mosaic of biblical interpretation. For example, biblical inerrancy maintains that the Bible is without error and contradiction; biblical infallibility holds that the Bible is free from errors regarding faith and practice but not necessarily science or history; biblical literalism requires a literal interpretation of events and teachings in the Bible and generally discounts allegory and metaphor; and the “Bible as literature” educational approach extols the literary qualities of the Bible but disregards its miraculous elements.

The Church does not strictly subscribe to any of these interpretive approaches. Rather, in the words of Joseph Smith, it regards the Bible to be the word of God, “as far as it is translated correctly” (8th Article of Faith). Accordingly, Church members believe that during the centuries-long process in which fallible human beings compiled, translated and transcribed the Bible, various errors entered the text. However, this does not override the overwhelming predominance of truth within the Bible. As Elder Ballard noted, “Without the Bible, we would not know of His Church then, nor would we have the fullness of His gospel now.” Part of that fullness is the Bible’s seminal instruction that God reveals Himself to those who seek Him. The Bible is a living invitation to know personally the sacred revelatory experience that fills its pages.

The scriptures, or “standard works,” of the Latter-day Saints comprise the Old Testament and New Testament of the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price. According to Elder Ballard, these scriptures constitute a “great, indivisible whole” of God’s revealed word that help humankind understand the past, present and future. The great gospel plan contained in these works does not apply to one generation or one people alone but to all of God’s children throughout all time. Thus, in the words of Elder Ballard, “those who think that one part is more important or more true than the other parts are missing some of the beauty and completeness of the canon of ancient scripture.”

During previous periods of time when God organized His church, He added new revelations to pre-existing scripture, forming a connection between believers of the present and believers of the past. For example, the Old Testament book of Isaiah gives shape and meaning to the Gospel of Matthew. The two revelations need not be viewed as rivals competing with each other: the existence of one does not negate the relevance or legitimacy of the other. This ongoing revelation of scripture gives uniformity and continuity to an unfolding gospel narrative and unites people under one standard of doctrine.

Of all the standard works, the Bible remains the best source for an intimate understanding of the character and personality of Jesus Christ during His mortal mission. While the Old Testament offers a prophetic foretelling of that mission, the New Testament provides an unmatched account of the events, experiences, teachings and personal interactions of Christ. The Book of Mormon strengthens and reinforces His teachings through additional witnesses and provides moving accounts of the personal experiences many individuals had with Him. According to Elder Ballard, “The Book of Mormon does not dilute nor diminish nor de-emphasize the Bible. On the contrary, it expands, extends, and exalts it.”



TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Other Christian; Other non-Christian
KEYWORDS: antimormonthread; bible; christian; cult; deception; lds; mormon; mormon1
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To: Tennessee Nana; MHGinTN

XOXOXOXOXO


151 posted on 02/23/2010 1:44:53 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

There you go again, quoting directly from ldsers. tsk tsk


152 posted on 02/23/2010 1:45:00 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: TheDon; Godzilla

Inconceivable!


153 posted on 02/23/2010 1:45:27 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Normandy

Throughout his life, Gordon B. Hinckley taught and testified constantly and consistently
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sidestepped rules of mormonism...

Hinckley never wernt on a mission...


154 posted on 02/23/2010 1:47:31 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39
Non-Mormons need to be very aware that Mormons, when they refer to the "Holy Bible," they are referring to their own version as well as Mormons believe that their Bible is but one of the scriptures in which they put their faith.

Non-Mormon Bibles would disagree with Mormon scriptures as do Christians disagree with Mormons views of God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and the Bible and what it means to be a Christian.

Lastly, Mormons do NOT accept non-Mormon Christians as "real Christians" as they believe that they are the only "true Christians" and as such only they have the "true faith;" any other faith is an "abomination to God."

155 posted on 02/23/2010 1:48:24 PM PST by zerosix (A)
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To: svcw

Aint I the cheeky one ???

:)


156 posted on 02/23/2010 1:49:08 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: svcw

Aint I the cheeky one ???

:)


157 posted on 02/23/2010 1:49:08 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Vendome

ROTFLMAO


158 posted on 02/23/2010 1:50:01 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Actually he served as a missionary in Great Britain as a young man.


159 posted on 02/23/2010 1:51:07 PM PST by Normandy
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To: zerosix

Bingo


160 posted on 02/23/2010 1:51:39 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Godzilla
No, your attempted point is that a misspelled word invalidates the bible because it is an ‘error’ in perhaps 1000 ms - completely ignoring the fact that it is spelled correctly in 10,000 other ms.

I'm not sure where I stated that a misspelled word invalidates the Bible. In fact, I'm sure I never said it because I don't believe that a spelling error invalidates the Bible. In fact, I would go much farther than that. I don't invalidate the Bible for the addition of the Comma Johanneum, nor the Pericope Adulterae, nor the longer ending of Mark, nor any other additions, subtractions or changes to the NT. For me, the Bible is a divinely inspired testament that Jesus is the Christ and the only means of salvation. I doubt you feel any differently.

161 posted on 02/23/2010 1:52:20 PM PST by TheDon
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To: Vendome

LOL! It happens. I believe we both also agree that BO is disaster of a president.


162 posted on 02/23/2010 1:53:16 PM PST by TheDon
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To: Tennessee Nana

I wonder what Hinckley had to say about all this when he met the real Gatekeeper?


163 posted on 02/23/2010 1:55:50 PM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: TheDon
I'm not sure where I stated that a misspelled word invalidates the Bible. In fact, I'm sure I never said it because I don't believe that a spelling error invalidates the Bible.

It is very evident from your continued insistence upon the thousands of variants. Not sure if you understand the methodology of textural criticism where this is involved and presents a false attitude to the understanding of what variants are.

For me, the Bible is a divinely inspired testament that Jesus is the Christ and the only means of salvation. I doubt you feel any differently.

If it is the only means of salvation - why slum around with the bom, d&c and pogp?

164 posted on 02/23/2010 1:58:59 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Yep


165 posted on 02/23/2010 2:00:17 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Normandy

Actually he served as a missionary in Great Britain as a young man.
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Yes sorry it was Tommy Monson the current profit who never went on a mission...

As for Gordon Hinckley, the last profit...

He went but soon sent a letter home to his father declaring that it was a waste of “my time and your money”.

Soon after his whining the well connected Hinckley was transfered into the mission office to spare him the rigors of actual missionary toil, & to endlessly coddle him.

When Hinckley returned home, without actual applying he was given an administrative level job in a previoulsy NON existent Dept of LDS Inc IN 1935 -THE HEART OF THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

(From the LDS INC official video bio of Hinckley.)


166 posted on 02/23/2010 2:04:31 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

I wonder what Hinckley had to say about all this when he met the real Gatekeeper?
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“WHINE I done all that there lyin for you, Lord WHINE.

BTW wheres Joseph ? WHINE” ???


167 posted on 02/23/2010 2:07:48 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana; greyfoxx39

So funny and so sad.


168 posted on 02/23/2010 2:15:24 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Vendome
President George E. Howel.

the President of the Pawnee Tribe, whose name escapes me at this time.

Now you have it back, though his name oughtta be George E. Perching Owl or some such.

169 posted on 02/23/2010 2:19:41 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: Elsie; colorcountry; reaganaut; greyfoxx39
That's me in 1917 tipping my hat to Elsie. Keep your eye out in the next few days for a story in the Salt Lake Tribune. We are mounting a showing of 24 photographs in cooperation with Southern Utah University from 1905-1965 of interesting things in Zion National Park. Called today and interviewed for a bit. Just sent them ten images to choose from so I have been off the air today on FR.


170 posted on 02/23/2010 2:19:55 PM PST by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Twelve Miles East of Zion National Park)
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To: Utah Binger

thats neat binger!


171 posted on 02/23/2010 2:22:15 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

THX


172 posted on 02/23/2010 2:25:44 PM PST by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Twelve Miles East of Zion National Park)
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To: Elsie

You have quoted from one of my very favorite O.T. Chapters - Isaiah 53.

Anybody reading that chapter should be able to see clearly who Isaiah was talking about and I used to wonder how the Jews of Jesus’ time could not recognize the Messiah but gradually came to realize that their agenda wouldn’t allow it. All part of God’s grand plan.


173 posted on 02/23/2010 2:31:41 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: Normandy
As James says: “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble”

For our belief in Christ to be of benefit to us we have to not only believe in His existence and divinity, but we have to follow Him.

Yes, that was James 2:19.

I find your comment very interesting. First of all, just wondering why you don't ever refer to Him as just "Jesus".

Secondly, our belief in Jesus is for the sake of *benefits*? Wow, to a Christian, that's WILDLY understating it.

Now what do you mean by "follow Him". Try your hardest to be good like He was? Do you think that's why He came? To show us how to be nice?

174 posted on 02/23/2010 3:21:31 PM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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To: Godzilla

Idiotic. How can your belief in something result in a genetic marker that matches those of a certain other people, say the 10 lost tribes or in their case Trope.


175 posted on 02/23/2010 3:25:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: T Minus Four; Godzilla; Vendome; All; greyfoxx39; svcw; TheDon
Here's a verse from James for you:

19 My dear brothers and sisters, if someone among you wanders away from the truth and is brought back, 20 you can be sure that whoever brings the sinner back will save that person from death and bring about the forgiveness of many sins. James 5:19-20 NLT

Believe me, that's why a lot of us are here. We don't want you to die!

176 posted on 02/23/2010 3:27:15 PM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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To: Graybeard58

I believe George is the current President but I am not sure what the fella’s name was in the 80’s.

I haven’t seen him in about 20 years, since moving to Kah-Lee-Fawn-ee-Yah.


177 posted on 02/23/2010 3:27:42 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

LOL! Stop saying that!


178 posted on 02/23/2010 3:28:13 PM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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To: TheDon

LOL


179 posted on 02/23/2010 3:28:49 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: T Minus Four

Nor I you, my FRiend!


180 posted on 02/23/2010 3:30:06 PM PST by TheDon
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To: Godzilla
If it is the only means of salvation - why slum around with the bom, d&c and pogp?

I was obviously referring to Jesus Christ. There is no salvation in the Bible, only in Jesus Christ. I'm sure you would agree. Now that's 3 points of agreement. :-)

181 posted on 02/23/2010 3:33:00 PM PST by TheDon
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To: Utah Binger

1917?

My friend is 99years and 8 months, born in 1910.

How old are you?


182 posted on 02/23/2010 3:33:44 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: TheDon

Are you positive of your salvation? Because I am of mine. And not “if so-and-so, then yes”..

Just yes or no?


183 posted on 02/23/2010 3:36:35 PM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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To: svcw

Well, now......


184 posted on 02/23/2010 3:36:39 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Vendome
Idiotic. How can your belief in something result in a genetic marker that matches those of a certain other people, say the 10 lost tribes or in their case Trope.

The current mormon apologist answer is that because the population of the Lehi/Nephi was sooooooooo small - their genetic markers were absorbed into the Amerindians. BIG problem with this is that the bom as well as the teaching and actions of the founders ALL point to the mormon fact that ALL Amerindians were descendents of Lehi et al, and that the western hemisphere was unpopulated when they arrived. The DNA studies when they first started hitting hot and heavy caused a number of mormons to leave.

For further reading

http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_simonsoutherton.html#pub_-1168088121

185 posted on 02/23/2010 3:37:01 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Utah Binger

Very cool! I’ll watch for the story.


186 posted on 02/23/2010 3:37:35 PM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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To: T Minus Four

I’ll answer for me - YES!


187 posted on 02/23/2010 3:37:39 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: T Minus Four

Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die...(rinse, repeat)


188 posted on 02/23/2010 3:37:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: TheDon
is no salvation in the Bible, only in Jesus Christ.

Define YOUR Jesus Christ, you former prophet is already on record stating it is not the same as the one I worship.

189 posted on 02/23/2010 3:39:02 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

Here, let’s compound the trope even more. As I understand it, the people of Tonga are now considered to the lost tribe of Lamenites.

So is the BoM a story of the uniqueness of the America’s or can a new revelation just as easily be conjured up to fulfill a required expediency?


190 posted on 02/23/2010 3:40:12 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Godzilla

OUCH


191 posted on 02/23/2010 3:40:24 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Godzilla

Ouch!


192 posted on 02/23/2010 3:42:40 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Vendome

STOP SAYING THAT!

:-)


193 posted on 02/23/2010 3:44:45 PM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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To: T Minus Four

Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die...(now you say the next line. Unfortunately, I have watched it so many times I believe I have the script memorized. Either that or I am lying and using IMBD, LOLOLOL)


194 posted on 02/23/2010 3:47:54 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
I wish I could remember - there are at least 9 different ‘theories’ surrounding where the events of the bom occured

All western hemisphere
North America
Greater Central America
Tiny area of Central America
Baja Peninsula
Malysian Peninsula
Africa
Polynesia (incl Tonga)

Yep, big on theories, non-existant on real facts. The most probable is smith's use of the geography of NY and the great lakes for his 'geography'. My first bom had pictures of the great lakes and how they were the various 'seas' found in the bom.

The bom is a poorly written spinoff of popular conversation of the era - the origins of the native americans - made popular by a book called "A View to the Hebrews" as well as others. AVTTH is almost point for point parallel with the bom.

195 posted on 02/23/2010 3:48:34 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: TheDon
There is no salvation in the Bible, only in Jesus Christ

Allow me to introduce you to the opening verses of what may be the most beautiful book ever written, the Gospel of John:

In the beginning the Word already existed.
The Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2 He existed in the beginning with God.
3 God created everything through him,
and nothing was created except through him.
4 The Word gave life to everything that was created,
and his life brought light to everyone.
5 The light shines in the darkness,
and the darkness can never extinguish it.
6 God sent a man, John the Baptist, 7 to tell about the light so that everyone might believe because of his testimony.
8 John himself was not the light; he was simply a witness to tell about the light.
9 The one who is the true light, who gives light to everyone, was coming into the world.

Don't you get it? JESUS IS THE WORD OF GOD. The bible is the Word of God.

196 posted on 02/23/2010 3:51:25 PM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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To: T Minus Four

Yes.


197 posted on 02/23/2010 3:51:28 PM PST by TheDon
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To: Vendome

Oh rats, I haven’t seen it for ages. And I was likely falling asleep most of the way through. What’s my line? (and what’s IMBD?)


198 posted on 02/23/2010 3:53:30 PM PST by T Minus Four (I already have a Savior. It's a President I'm looking for.)
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To: T Minus Four

Fascinating. The Bible = Jesus Christ?


199 posted on 02/23/2010 3:53:47 PM PST by TheDon
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To: Vendome
Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die...(now you say the next line. (He repeats the line throughout the duel.)
200 posted on 02/23/2010 3:54:12 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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