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Theology FAQs: Does the bible clearly teach pre-, a-, or postmillennialism?
CPRF ^ | Nathan Pitchford & John Hendryx

Posted on 03/02/2010 7:59:21 AM PST by Gamecock

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What is theology?
Why is the study of theology important?
Where do we go to learn about theology?
What is the Bible About?
What Makes the Bible Unique?
Can anyone read and understand the bible on his own?
Does the Church have to interpret the bible?
What principles of interpretation are necessary to study the bible?
What does the term “grammatical-historical hermeneutic” mean, and why is it important?
Is a “grammatical-historical hermeneutic” different from a “Christ-centered hermeneutic”?
Is the whole bible about Christ, or just the New Testament?
Isn't it reading too much into the Old Testament to see references to Christ on every page?
Wasn't the Old Testament written especially to the Jews, so that it doesn't apply in the same way to Christians?
What does the term “sensus plenior” mean?
Is a grammatical-historical hermeneutic opposed to sensus plenior?
What does the term "analogy of faith" mean?
What is the Gospel?
What is Dispensationalism?
Is Dispensationalism biblical?
Does the bible teach a pre-tribulational rapture?
Does the bible teach that in the end times there will be a restored Jewish state and a restored temple?
Does the bible teach that there are two peoples of God, Israel and the Church?
What is Amillennialism?
What is Postmillennialism?
What is Premillennialism?
Is Premillennialism always dispensational?
1 posted on 03/02/2010 7:59:21 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; AZhardliner; ...

GRPL Ping


2 posted on 03/02/2010 8:00:21 AM PST by Gamecock (We aren't sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners. (R.C. Sproul))
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To: Gamecock

There’s an “Apocalypse” going on in Washington DC...that’s for sure!


3 posted on 03/02/2010 8:08:33 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: Gamecock

Some theologian once said if he unexpectedly found himself being raised before Christ’s reign, that he would change his theology on the way up!


4 posted on 03/02/2010 8:11:01 AM PST by rcofdayton
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To: Gamecock

#101 What is Replacement Theology?


5 posted on 03/02/2010 8:11:46 AM PST by fatboy
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To: Gamecock

Judging by all the religious threads I’ve read here over the years, with all the animosity and all the different views, I’d say few of the teachings are really that clear...otherwise, it seems, there would be more agreement.


6 posted on 03/02/2010 8:12:12 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: fatboy

If anything breaks you get a free replacement.


7 posted on 03/02/2010 8:13:56 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Gamecock
Amillennialists probably have the most solid case for their interpretation of Revelation 20.

Most assuredly. While I lean to the Amillennial senario, the Premillenial and Postmillenial senarios do have some things to offer for consideration. But overall, the exegesis of Amillennialism seems the best. The 1,000 years of Revelation 20 seems to be relied upon by Pre and Post Millennial theories more than its worth. For one thing, the Greek of Revelation 20 doesn't use the term for a single, solitary 1,000 year senario, but for an unknown time. The term 1,000 in Revelation is a plural adjective, not a singular term. It, according to many Greek Scholars, should have been rendered "thousands" of years, not "a", "the", or "one". But "tradition" on this came early, and is so held to by many translators, even though they know it is a plural term. Sort of sad, to say the least.

8 posted on 03/02/2010 8:15:03 AM PST by Ken4TA (The truth sometimes hurts - but is truth nonetheless!)
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To: Larry Lucido

LOL—that is a better guarantee than replacement theology.


9 posted on 03/02/2010 8:15:10 AM PST by applpie (u)
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To: Gamecock

The Bible clearly teaches a premillennial return of Christ.

a) Revelation plainly states that Christ’s thousand year reign begins after the devil is bound for a thousand years. Some claim this could be poetic language, not to be taken literally, but that is nonsense. To paraphrase A.W. Tozer, if your sweetheart wrote you a love letter filled with literal statements and poetic metaphors, it would be easy to tell which are which, and the same is true of the Book of Revelation.

b) It is prepostrous to think that THIS is the millennial reign of peace and holiness described in the OT and NT prophecies. Can anyone honestly say they believe the devil is currently bound and exercising no influence over the world? If THIS is the 1,000 year reign of Christ, I’m afraid it was highly overrated.

c) Far too many OT prophecies could only be fulfilled with a premillennial return of Christ.

Post-millennialism is pure nonsense. Amillennialism is slightly less ridiculous, but still clearly wrong.

This is not to be confused with the timing of the rapture, in relation to the return of Christ, which I believe is uncertain, quite possibly intentionally so, on God’s part.


10 posted on 03/02/2010 8:24:56 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
The Bible clearly teaches a premillennial return of Christ.

You are absolutely correct. The only way to get post- or a- out of Revelation 20 is to distort the plain meaning of the Biblical text.

11 posted on 03/02/2010 8:41:51 AM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: fatboy

The the Church is heir to all the promises God gave the Jews, who have been replaced as God’s people is my understandin. but I’m not a theologian.


12 posted on 03/02/2010 8:51:39 AM PST by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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To: Gamecock

Amillenialism. It neither denies nor ignores any part of the Scriptures, nor does it pit certain verses against others.


13 posted on 03/02/2010 8:55:12 AM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: Gamecock

Actually, the Bible doesn’t “clearly teach against” Dispensational Premillennialism. LOL Although, I know many Bible students who are convinced it does. Boy are they gonna be surprised!


14 posted on 03/02/2010 8:58:21 AM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Gamecock

Pre-trib, pre-mil rapture is my theological position...and I am sticking to it!


15 posted on 03/02/2010 9:00:00 AM PST by LiteKeeper ("It's the peoples' seat!")
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To: Gamecock

I’m sure we’ll all find out eventually. Until then, I don’t see the need to get into arguements over it.

We should spend less time worrying over when God will do what and more time concerned what God will do with us.


16 posted on 03/02/2010 9:03:31 AM PST by bobjam
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To: chesley
The the Church is heir to all the promises God gave the Jews, who have been replaced as God’s people is my understandin. but I’m not a theologian.

True. The church is everyone throughout time who is justified by faith in God after the manner of Abraham and who, because of that faith, is grafted into the vine, as Paul said, a son of Abraham, whether Greek or Jew or barbarian, male or female, heir of the promises God made to Abraham when he promised him to make him a father of many nations. The Law came later 1. as a formal recognition of the covenant God made with the descendants of Abraham whom he rescued from Egypt, 2. as a way to make man conscious of sin and the necessity that blood must be shed for the forgiveness of sin, and 3. as a way, like a school teacher, to lead mankind to Christ. The church hasn't replaced anyone or any group of people.
17 posted on 03/02/2010 9:03:39 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Above My Pay Grade

“c) Far too many OT prophecies could only be fulfilled with a premillennial return of Christ.”

This to me is the “Rosetta Stone.” It unlocks the puzzle. This is the missing piece to the jigsaw puzzle of prophecy.

I believe this “premillennial” period of time is the kingdom of God - here on this earth. But during this “eon” (the kingdom of God), Jesus Christ governs from His throne in heaven, with earth as His footstool. This is the time when I believe many OT prophecies will be fulfilled.

The “return” of Jesus Christ results in His Parousia, His personal presence because of who He is, in light of His many offices. This period, I believe, will last for the “millennium,” or the “thousand years,” or thereabouts. I’m not sure if it’s just one thousand, or a few thousand. Makes no difference. He will return, and He will be present. (I hate it when the translators set forth “coming” for the meaning of “parousia.” His coming again will result in His Parousia.


18 posted on 03/02/2010 9:10:32 AM PST by Overwatcher
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To: Gamecock

The game the Amillennialists play is to point out the errors of Dispensationalism, and then present their doctrine as the only alternative. Never mentioning there is another view that is not Dispensational - Historic Premillennialism. They want prospective converts to be kept in the dark about it.

Historic Premillennialism, by the way, is Post-trib, and believes the church is to play the central role in the tribulation and the millennial.

Historic Premillennialism is “historic” because it represents the view of such early post-Apostolic church fathers as Justin Martyr, Ireneaus, Tertullian, Hypollutus, Lactanius, etc. Dispensationalism, on the other hand, is a modern invention, early 19th century Britain.


19 posted on 03/02/2010 9:19:32 AM PST by sasportas
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12 Reasons Why Supersessionism / Replacement Theology Is Not a Biblical Doctrine
20 posted on 03/02/2010 9:24:31 AM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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