Skip to comments.Notre Dame Fails Again
Posted on 03/03/2010 10:43:39 AM PST by NYer
This is bad news for those who have hope for Notre Dame University. Dr. Charles Rice has been writing a column for the Notre Dame Observer for many years. But this week, the editors refused to run his column on the Church's teaching on homosexuality. Joe from Defend Us In Battle writes:
Notre Dame... fails again.You've got to read the editor's letter and Dr. Rice's response. It's a great response to a very sad situation. Click here to read it.
This is hitting just now in a few well respected Catholic News outlets:
Dr. Charles Rice (Notre Dame Law School - Bio) recently wrote a column/piece for the Notre Dame Observer, as he does every few weeks. The topic this week is: The Church's Teaching On Homosexuality. Only... this week they didn't print it.
Here is the article: Dr. Rice's - "Right or Wrong?" Column: March 1, 2010 - Homosexuality.
The Editor of the Observer didn't print it for a variety of reasons...or so they say. None of the listed reasons was legitimate.
In so doing, the school is only hurting themselves.
If this kind of thing continues, the Church must take action.
Our Lady weeps...
This is terrible. Dr. Charles Rice is a great man: Marine, law professsor, Catholic.
I’ll never forget the time he came into my high school class room in South Bend and proved the existence of God by reason and logic.
Notre Dame should be naming buildings after this guy - not censoring him.
Dr. Rice’s response:
From: Charles Rice
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:04 PM
To: Matthew Gamber
Subject: Rice Column on Catholic Teaching on Homosexuality
Dear Mr. Gamber:
Thank you for your email informing me that my column presenting the teachings of the Church on homosexuality will not be published. Since 1992, I have been privileged to publish every two weeks a column, entitled “Right or Wrong,” in the Observer. I emphasize my appreciation for the unfailing professionalism and courtesy of the Observer editors with whom I have had contact over those years.
You mention the column “far exceeded our word limit guidelines.” It is in fact significantly shorter than each of the three previous columns published this semester in the Observer. I was not asked to shorten any of them. The rejected column accurately presented relevant teachings of the Catholic Church on homosexuality. I understand why you are concerned over the content of the column. You further propose that if I examine the topic of homosexuality in the future, “we thought it might be beneficial to do so in a point-counterpoint format, perhaps with an author of an opposing or differing viewpoint. That way, each ‘side,’ so to speak, would have the opportunity to present relevant facts, evidence and analysis to define its position.”
In a university that claims to be Catholic, I am not willing to restrict my presentation of Catholic teaching to a format that treats the authoritative teaching of the Church as merely one viewpoint or “side” among many. If you require that future columns of mine on homosexuality comply with a format such as you propose, it will be inappropriate for me to continue writing the column for the Observer.
Charles E. Rice
Notre Dame Law School
Yes, he was. But he confessed regularly, and prayed, and was a faithful Catholic. He didn’t run around spouting pro-sodomy agitprop.
He wrote poetry and letters to “friends.” You have no idea how “faithful” he was or was not. Personally, I don’t care what he did on Saturday nights between the carving the pieta and painting the sistine chapel. Nor should the Church to which he gave them. And you know, in Renaissance Florence, I don’t think the Church did care, at least not very much. It was a little more broad-minded.
He lived to be 90+. I would expect that he found time to repent.
And you “would expect” that he felt he had the need to? Some of those poems and letters, personal expressions of love, are exquisitely beautiful. I try not to make windows into other men’s souls, especially men who are dead. I just agree or disagree, and in the latter case, I tolerate, and appreciate them for who there were.
Congrats to Mr Rice for standing up to the editor.
Sad to see another institution turning away from Christ to adopt secularism.
Of course he would feel the need to repent. He wasn’t an illiterate Catholic of the so-called 20th Century.
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Hateful. Every Catholic and every Notre Dame alumnus should know this.
Thank you. It really annoys me to see people slandering someone just because they can.
I believe this statement to be incorrect. There is no proof that Michelangelo was Gay, there is loads of evidence that he was a devout Catholic. Finishing St Peter's Basilica for free is one case.
There’s plenty of evidence. But my point is greater than that: why should it matter? Few of us can ever hope to bring as much glory to God as did he.
My point exactly. Sorry if I put it awkwardly.
There are very good reasons for proclaiming saints, if there were none, then we wouldn’t have a Church, let alone a single saint.
There is “no Glory to God” if Jesus never changed anyone’s life, this is the reality of his mission. A death and resurrection which reached no one is meaningless.
Because we have examples of personal faith, we can say that there is something concrete about that faith.
I have no idea what you are saying.
That is honestly as well as I’ve heard it put - thank you, that was most inspiring.
Yes, true, themselves. And no doubt some of their students, too. Seems they are getting mileage out of calling themselves Catholic, but are CINO at best.
Wow. You were very fortunate, some of us were sitting through (or walking out of) high school and college classes that were drivel, even heretical (yes, Catholic institutions). What a privilege that must have been.
I too had the honor of meeting Dr. rice he is truly a great man
Prayers for the Holy Spirit to work and bring that great university back to its origins.
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