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BYU devotional, Elder Glenn L. Pace: The divine nature and destiny of women
LDS Church News ^ | March 9, 2010 | Marianne Holman

Posted on 03/12/2010 7:02:37 AM PST by Colofornian

Women have a sacred role in the sanctification and purification of men, Elder Glenn L. Pace of the Seventy told students and faculty during the campus devotional in the Marriott Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 9.

Reflecting on the love he felt from his mother, sister, wife and daughters, Elder Pace spoke of the positive influence women have had on his life.

Speaking specifically about a time when his daughter fell asleep in his arms, Elder Pace noted the comfort it must have brought his daughter to be held by her father. He realized afterward that even greater was the peace and comfort she brought to him.

Looking to the Savior as an example, Elder Pace spoke of the love and respect He bestowed upon women.

"As we read about these associations, our focus is generally on what He teaches them and the love and understanding He gives them," Elder Pace said. "Have you ever considered the possibility that these women provided immense comfort to His burdened soul? It is my belief that He needed them as He journeyed toward living a perfect life in order that He could provide the ultimate sacrifice."

Just as the Savior needed righteous women, so do men today in purifying and sanctification in their lives.

Sharing excerpts from the story of the creation found in the book of Abraham, Elder Pace told of how the earth was created — before Eve — where Adam had been placed in the Garden of Eden. In the garden, Adam was enjoying a utopia in physical surroundings as well as open communication with God. Still, it was not complete without Eve.

"I believe the Father's statement 'It is not good that the man should be alone' (Genesis 2:18) had a much more profound meaning than the obvious biological implications," he said. "It also went further than providing Adam with company. Adam's ability to obtain the purification necessary to get back into the presence of God was dependent upon his continuous association with Eve."

In order for men and women to obtain the highest degree of celestial glory, there is need to be married, Elder Porter said.

"There is a limit to our spiritual development as long as we are single. There is a spiritual development which can only be obtained when a man and a woman join their incomplete selves into a complete couple," he said. "Just as conception requires the physical union of male and female, perfection requires the union of the very souls of male and female."

Although single men and women can accomplish great things on their own, they are incomplete until united intellectually, emotionally, physically and most important, spiritually, he said.

"The world we live in has gone awry with its focus on the physical part of the male and female relationship. If there is too much focus on the physical, the vital areas of intellectual, emotional and spiritual union are not being placed in an environment where they can flourish and grow."

Elder Pace spoke of the obsession the current society has on "making love," rather than developing a complete relationship that enables "expressing love." Because melding divine natures is a necessary element in bringing about perfection, Elder Pace said, individuals must guard against any deterioration of those natures.

"If the world keeps chipping away at the divine nature of women, it is probable that our relationships in marriage will not bring about the sanctification necessary for exaltation or, at a minimum, the process will be delayed," he said.

Referring to the phrase, "men have the priesthood and women have been given the blessing of procreation," Elder Pace spoke of the importance of each role in a relationship, and the ability couples have to complement one another in their eternal roles.

"It is the marriage ceremony in the temple where husband and wife receive the power to perfect their relationship and, thereby, obtain their exaltation."

As individuals work together to become a whole, as the Lord has commanded, they work together to become a combination of complementary capacities and characteristics.

"Sisters, I testify that when you stand in front of your heavenly parents in those royal courts on high and you look into Her eyes and behold Her countenance, any question you ever had about the role of women in the kingdom will evaporate into the rich celestial air, because at that moment you will see standing directly in front of you, your divine nature and destiny."


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From the article: "If the world keeps chipping away at the divine nature of women..."

Say what? The "divine nature" of women? Aha! Mormonism unveiled: Presenting women as gods! (By the way, the BYU publication, The Daily Universe, avoided all references to women-as-gods in this same coverage of this general authority's talk).

From the article: "It is the marriage ceremony in the temple where husband and wife receive the power to perfect their relationship and, thereby, obtain their exaltation."

In Mormonese, what does "obtain their exaltation" translate into? It means stepping into the highest degree of glory & becoming gods.

From the article: "Sisters, I testify that when you stand in front of your heavenly parents in those royal courts on high and you look into Her eyes and behold Her countenance, any question you ever had about the role of women in the kingdom will evaporate into the rich celestial air, because at that moment you will see standing directly in front of you, your divine nature and destiny."

To be certain, Lds teaches godhood for millions of people!

1 posted on 03/12/2010 7:02:38 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Sisters, I testify that when you stand in front of your heavenly parents in those royal courts on high and you look into Her eyes and behold Her countenance, any question you ever had about the role of women in the kingdom will evaporate into the rich celestial air, because at that moment you will see standing directly in front of you, your divine nature and destiny.”
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Ah yes...

The mormon godess....

Mormonism is not Christianity


2 posted on 03/12/2010 7:07:07 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian; reaganaut

Sisters, I testify that when you stand in front of your heavenly parents in those royal courts on high and you look into Her eyes and behold Her countenance, any question you ever had about the role of women in the kingdom will evaporate into the rich celestial air, because at that moment you will see standing directly in front of you, your divine nature and destiny.”
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Ya know this is odd...

Mormons refuse to put capitals for God the Father or Jesus...

He, His, Him etc...

But they write capitals for their pagan belief in godesses...

Very telling...


3 posted on 03/12/2010 7:09:51 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. (1 John 3:2)

Was there ever a son who couldn’t develop into the nature of the Father?


4 posted on 03/12/2010 7:18:38 AM PST by webboy45
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To: Colofornian

“It is the marriage ceremony in the temple where husband and wife receive the power to perfect their relationship and, thereby, obtain their exaltation.”
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Hmmmmmmmmmm

Maslow’s Theory...

But let’s see what Paul says about needing to be married for so called “spiritual exaltation” ...

Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 1 Corinthians 7:8

But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 1 Corinthians 7:9

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Paul said to get married for common or garden physical reasons

Oh noes

What a come down...

Still Maslow covered that also...

at the bottom of his pyramid...

;)


5 posted on 03/12/2010 7:19:23 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: All; Tennessee Nana
From the article: Adam's ability to obtain the purification necessary to get back into the presence of God was dependent upon his continuous association with Eve."

Ah. Here is where we have Jesus being relegated to the level of a man's wife as BOTH having equal weight "to obtain the purification necessary to get back into the presence of God". More Mormon blasphemy; inserting spouses into being on the same spiritual level of Jesus Christ!

Sorry. But Jesus will bear no rival. He even said that if someone's family member gets in the way of being His disciple, then that relationship needs to be contrasted sharply with the love relationship with Jesus -- to where Jesus emphasized the point by a person's willingness to "hate" that competitive relationship! (That is radical discipleship!)

Jesus: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26-27)

This passage is clear: By Jesus taking up the cross, He had to reject His previous role of looking after His mother, Mary. (He handed that off to one of His disciples, John). That rejection comes across as "hate" -- a lack of embrace; a willingness to even leave that person behind. But it's because He embraced the cross. If our embrace of our spouse gets in the way of embracing our cross, then we CANNOT be His disciple!

The Q of choice for Mormons is: Will they embrace the cross & thereby commence their road to discipleship? Or will they choose the route of treating a spouse as equal to Jesus the savior as the route "to obtain the purification necessary to get back into the presence of God?" (Jesus is the ONLY route to be purified & regain a footing in God's presence)

Jesus realized that men would place competitors to the cross:
some capitulate to family peer pressure of a parent -- and won't convert for that reason;
some elevate a girlfriend/boyfriend/potential spouse or spouse beyond the God-given role they are to be;
but without even waiting for individuals to do this, Mormon hauls it wholesale right into their religion!

From the article: "There is a limit to our spiritual development as long as we are single. There is a spiritual development which can only be obtained when a man and a woman join their incomplete selves into a complete couple," he said. "Just as conception requires the physical union of male and female, perfection requires the union of the very souls of male and female...Although single men and women can accomplish great things on their own, they are incomplete until united..."

You hear that world? Mormons call singles "incomplete"; and it won't be Jesus bringing you to heaven to make you perfect there or to purify you via His blood. Nope, it's a wedding ring that supposedly does that. (Talk about religious ritualism run amok!)

6 posted on 03/12/2010 7:21:08 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

When my wife heard that women have babies perpetually in Mormon Heaven, she said that ain’t heaven and I don’t want to go!


7 posted on 03/12/2010 7:24:01 AM PST by genetic homophobe
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To: genetic homophobe

That’s OMK

You tell her that us apostate woman dont have to do that...

We arent sex slaves in the mormon after life...

Just the mormon females...

:)


8 posted on 03/12/2010 7:26:31 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian

Great post! Thanks for sharing this great talk. Full of divine truth.

Those of you with issues or questions should seek clarification from sources other than biased anti-Mormons such as the many that seem to reside on the freerepublic religion section of this board.


9 posted on 03/12/2010 7:35:23 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Tennessee Nana

On a side note, I just heard Glenn Beck say on the radio to question boldly your faith, question what you believe...

Hard to take anything he says seriously because of this apparent blind hypocrisy.


10 posted on 03/12/2010 7:37:59 AM PST by genetic homophobe
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To: Paragon Defender
Great post! Thanks for sharing this great talk. Full of divine truth.

Why, that's sure "funny" that when 53,000 Lds missionaries go around asking people to "pray about the Book of Mormon," for some reason there's nary a verse in the BoM about women being divine.

And here the Lds Doctrine & Covenants says the Book of Mormon is the "fulness of the everlasting gospel."

Now here you'd think that degrees of glory; the ability to become a god; supposed highest-degree exaltation...would all be relevant to the Mormon gospel. I guess it's not. NONE of those things are mentioned in the Book of Mormon.

Isn't that called spiritual bait-and-switch? Asking people to pray about & accept spiritual content that isn't even present? Isn't that a form of spiritual fraud?

And where does it say in the Book of Mormon that you have to be married to be either pure, complete or be eligible to be in God's presence? If that's part of the "fulness of the everlasting gospel," what verse is it in the Book of Mormon?

If you were ever an LDS missionary, and you asked people to pray about the Book of Mormon, how were they to read & pray about something that's not there? How could they accept a "salvation proposal" when the proposal was lacking MOST of the vital details?

Don't Lds missionaries who do this engage in spiritual fraud?

11 posted on 03/12/2010 7:47:20 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)
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To: Paragon Defender

You forgot your /s tag...


12 posted on 03/12/2010 7:49:33 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Paragon Defender; Colofornian
Those of you with issues or questions should seek clarification from sources other than biased anti-Mormons such as the many that seem to reside on the freerepublic religion section of this board.

Since you appear to be so well-informed, on this "divine truth" why don't YOU post this "clarification" right here on this thread? With sources and links, please.

I would be interested in seeing a mormon rebuttal of the points in this article.

13 posted on 03/12/2010 7:51:06 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: Paragon Defender
BTW, seeing as how the most of quoted and cut and pasted information the so called “anti-mormons” post is direct from LDS sources, perhaps you can point us as well as the lurkers to these source of which you speak.

Then you can explain why LDS doctrine and other publications AREN'T good sources to learn about the LDS...

14 posted on 03/12/2010 7:52:23 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Paragon Defender

What was the number of women who have been mormon prophets and presidents again ???

I keep forgeting...


15 posted on 03/12/2010 8:22:36 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: ejonesie22

You forgot your /s tag...


What’s that?


16 posted on 03/12/2010 9:06:14 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: greyfoxx39

I would be interested in seeing a mormon rebuttal of the points in this article.


No you wouldn’t. You would have looked for and found it already. You are a closed-minded anti-Mormon propagandist. Nothing more.


17 posted on 03/12/2010 9:09:27 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: ejonesie22

BTW, seeing as how the most of quoted and cut and pasted information the so called “anti-mormons” post is direct from LDS sources


The copy/pastes I refer to are the old and tired arguments against the LDS church. Not the content that is being misrepresented and/or ridiculed.


18 posted on 03/12/2010 9:13:22 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender
Ok then demonstrate for us...

Seems the old and tired arguments stand BECSUE of the doctrine and other content that is be EXPOSED...

Until it is actually rebutted with substance the complaint falls flat...

19 posted on 03/12/2010 9:17:10 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

What was the number of women who have been mormon prophets and presidents again ???

I keep forgeting...


A typical non-issue brought up by anti-Mormons. We both know the answer. We both know why.

I’m not sure why I am even answering you. I am imperfect and foolish I suppose.


20 posted on 03/12/2010 9:17:41 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender

How long have been on FR?


21 posted on 03/12/2010 9:17:41 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: greyfoxx39
Standard SOP cop out.

At least they are consistent as a team...

22 posted on 03/12/2010 9:18:49 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Paragon Defender
If the answer is not an issues, [please share it again, for the lurkers in the wider audience.

There is no reason to be coy about it, that should be something you are proud of...

23 posted on 03/12/2010 9:20:30 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: ejonesie22
At least they are consistent as a team...

Resorting to the personal attack...ho hum....

ears to hear

24 posted on 03/12/2010 9:24:03 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: ejonesie22

How long have been on FR?


Several years but I usually only lurk the main page from time to time. The religion board seems to be taken over by people who actively attack the LDS denomination.

It’s really the same old stuff regurgitated on many boards over the years by people who really have no sincere interest in the truth.


25 posted on 03/12/2010 9:24:43 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: greyfoxx39

Another example of a misleading attack. The Bible is part of our standard scripture.

While our interpretations may differ, as many denominations do, inferring that we do not believe in the bible is misleading at best.

But... you already know that I am sure. Enjoying yourself?


26 posted on 03/12/2010 9:33:56 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender
LDS Denomination?

Hum...

Anyways, again the lack of a demonstration or reference to information that could rebut or have rebutted with success these long running “attacks” leaves me and the lurkers a bit flat...

Like its all talk and such...

Of course that would not be the case, there is certainly substantial and verifiable proof and sources to support your claims...

Right?

27 posted on 03/12/2010 9:37:36 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Paragon Defender; Edward Watson

Glenn L. Pace: “Women have a sacred role in the sanctification and purification of men”

Nana asked PD: “What was the number of women who have been mormon prophets and presidents again ???”

PD to Nana: “I’m not sure why I am even answering you.”
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No ???

Then I’ll tell you why...

This is just some new proganda from the mormon corporation...

The other day one of the mormons said “Mormons believe men and women are equal. In fact, we believe women are naturally more righteous than men. This is why the Priesthood is given only to men since we need it in order to approach the spiritual level of women.”

This is a new thing that the mormons are doing...

Womden have always been second class citizens in at best in mormondom...

Heber C Kimball, who was a member of the “first presidency”, and had 45 “wives”, said, “I think no more of taking another wife than I do of buying another cow”


28 posted on 03/12/2010 9:38:21 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Paragon Defender; Edward Watson

Glenn L. Pace: “Women have a sacred role in the sanctification and purification of men”

Nana asked PD: “What was the number of women who have been mormon prophets and presidents again ???”

PD to Nana: “I’m not sure why I am even answering you.”
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Let’s continue with Heber Chase Kimbal, that “paragon defender” of high placed womanhood and the virtue therein..

Joey Smith once demanded that the wives of all the 12 mormon apostles be given to him...

When Joey Smith demanded Kimball’s favorite wife, Vilate, Kimball gave Smith his 14 year old daughter, Helen, instead...

Helen was coerced into the illicit liaison with Smith by being lied to and told that unless she agreed her whole family would not go to the mormon after life...

her father lied to her and told her that she would not have to have sex with Joey Smith...

Smith’s intentions towards women were always of a sexual nature...he built his religion on sexual conquests...

Helen Mar Kimball later wrote that she had been tricked and said if she had known that the night she was to spend with joey Smith in his bed included sex she would not have agreed...

Helen had been convinced that the “marriage” to the adulterous pedophile Joey Smith was for later in “eternity” and not now for “time” meaning physical sex...

No respect or regard for “sacred” womanhood or “sacred” marriage there...

Most if not all of Joey Smith’s sexual liaisons he called “celestial marriage” were for time and not eternity...


29 posted on 03/12/2010 9:50:06 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Paragon Defender; Colofornian

Those of you with issues or questions should seek clarification from sources other than biased anti-Mormons ...

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Well, that is amusing since the ‘antis’(and especially us ex-mos) are more likely to truth than the LDS church members are.

I know, ‘milk’ before ‘meat’, but the LDS milk is spoiled and the meat rotten.

Someone has to tell the truth about the LDS and they sure aren’t doing it.


30 posted on 03/12/2010 9:53:02 AM PST by reaganaut (You say 'Jesus Freak' like it's a bad thing....)
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To: Colofornian

Isn’t that called spiritual bait-and-switch?

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That is a VERY apt description.


31 posted on 03/12/2010 9:54:46 AM PST by reaganaut (You say 'Jesus Freak' like it's a bad thing....)
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To: greyfoxx39; Paragon Defender; Colofornian

Since you appear to be so well-informed, on this “divine truth” why don’t YOU post this “clarification” right here on this thread? With sources and links, please.

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I predict crickets...


32 posted on 03/12/2010 9:57:55 AM PST by reaganaut (You say 'Jesus Freak' like it's a bad thing....)
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To: Paragon Defender; greyfoxx39; Colofornian; ejonesie22; Tennessee Nana; Godzilla

You are a closed-minded anti-Mormon propagandist. Nothing more.

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You engage in Ad hominum attacks rather than actually present a defense. Sure sign (of the nail) of a losing argument.


33 posted on 03/12/2010 10:03:46 AM PST by reaganaut (You say 'Jesus Freak' like it's a bad thing....)
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To: Paragon Defender

I did look otherwise and at length...it is still rubbish.


34 posted on 03/12/2010 10:07:12 AM PST by caww
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To: Paragon Defender; ejonesie22

the old and tired arguments against the LDS church.

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I suppose it has not occurred to you that those arguments have merit. Unfortunately, most Mormons have spiritual blinders on.

And spare me the spin of Fair/Farms, I’ve read them.

The are interesting examples of ‘spin control’ but are not considered valid rebuttals in non-LDS academia.


35 posted on 03/12/2010 10:07:24 AM PST by reaganaut (You say 'Jesus Freak' like it's a bad thing....)
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To: Paragon Defender

Do you have any sources that are “unbiased”?

The source in this article is from the LdS.

How could it be considered “biased” since this information is being presented by an LdS leader ?


36 posted on 03/12/2010 10:22:06 AM PST by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: greyfoxx39

I laugh every time I see that LOLcat.


37 posted on 03/12/2010 10:31:16 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

It is cute

:)


38 posted on 03/12/2010 10:36:12 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Paragon Defender; greyfoxx39

The Bible is part of our standard scripture.

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Only ‘so far as it is translated correctly’ whatever THAT means this week. That goes even FARTHER out the window once you know how to read Greek/Hebrew.

The LDS only use the verses that support their doctrines and throw the rest out as being unreliable and probably corrupt.

And then there is the JST...

Please share with us just WHICH VERSES of the Bible are not ‘translated correctly’. We can avoid those and I can still use the Bible (in context with proper exegesis) to prove Mormonism false.

We don’t do this because it is ‘fun’. We do this because it is NECESSARY. The LDS want to claim to be Christians at the same time claiming other churches are ‘apostate’ and the LDS is the ‘only true church’. So we Christians have a responsibility, a duty, to scrutinize their teachings & doctrines in light of the Bible.


39 posted on 03/12/2010 10:37:07 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Paragon Defender; ejonesie22
The copy/pastes I refer to are the old and tired arguments against the LDS church.

Waiting for direct evidence of this.

40 posted on 03/12/2010 10:42:44 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: reaganaut; ejonesie22; Tennessee Nana; colorcountry; SZonian
 
1. a model of excellence; pattern a paragon of virtue
2. (Communication Arts / Printing, Lithography & Bookbinding) a size of printer's type, approximately equal to 20 point
vb (tr)
Archaic
a.  to equal or surpass
b.  to compare
c.  to regard as a paragon

It's pretty obvious what "paragons" are being defended here...Joe Smith, Brigham Young, Bruce McConkie...and on and on.

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41 posted on 03/12/2010 10:43:48 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: reaganaut; greyfoxx39; Paragon Defender; Colofornian
I predict crickets...


42 posted on 03/12/2010 10:45:18 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla; reaganaut; Paragon Defender; greyfoxx39
I predict crickets...

(Yeah, where's all those Utah Lds Seagulls when you need them?)

43 posted on 03/12/2010 10:46:33 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)
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To: Godzilla
Mormon crickets..

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44 posted on 03/12/2010 10:47:40 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: SZonian

Women have a sacred role in the sanctification and purification of men, Elder Glenn L. Pace of the Seventy told students and faculty
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

That’s not in the Christian Bible...

Instead, we are told that the Blood of Jesus was shed on the Cross to wash us clean from our sins...

and that we have an option to get married or not...

Wheter we are married or not does not effect our salvationn or where we will spend eternity...

Plus if women are so complete and mormon men are lacking...

Why arent women in every office in the mormon corporation ...

from the prophetess on down...

Prophecies, blessings,,,

first presidency, 12 apostles, quorum of 70...

Bishops, stake preside3nts, ward presidents...

MTC teachers, mission presidents...

Mere men should don those green frilly aprons and run the mens relief society...

Monson and Oakes learning to bake muffins and all...

Scapbooking boys...save those green Jello recipes...

Ah, yes...dumb mormon guys....

Who needs them...

The women can run the morg on their own...


45 posted on 03/12/2010 10:48:21 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

LOL!


46 posted on 03/12/2010 10:48:24 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Paragon Defender

When I was at BYU, I was told by my ACADEMIC advisor that I was there to ‘get a husband, not an education’.

And 20 years ago, if you weren’t married by the time you were 21 then you were told to go on a mission to make yourself more ‘marriageable’.

Women are DEFINITELY second class citizens in Mormondom.


47 posted on 03/12/2010 10:59:15 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut; Tennessee Nana; Paragon Defender
Women are DEFINITELY second class citizens in Mormondom.

What I find interesting is that the was no statement regarding that the wife MUST be brought through the veil by her husband - there is no mechanism for her to go in by herself.

48 posted on 03/12/2010 11:05:58 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

What I find interesting is that the was no statement regarding that the wife MUST be brought through the veil by her husband -

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Nope, but IIRC it is still part of the temple ceremony and only the husband knows the wife’s ‘new name’, she cannot know his. Very telling.


49 posted on 03/12/2010 11:11:13 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Godzilla

What I find interesting is that the was no statement regarding that the wife MUST be brought through the veil by her husband - there is no mechanism for her to go in by herself.
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WOW

And ya think that it would be the woman who would have to take the man through the veil...

and call HIM out of the grave...if she wanted to...

Hey mormon corporation...looks like this is getting to loomk more and more ridiculous,

“Women have a sacred role in the sanctification and purification of men,”

Why dont you just admit its just another big fat desparate lie ...

A PR trick finger to dam up the holes in the mormon religion dyke...


50 posted on 03/12/2010 11:15:34 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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