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Banished! City forbids Bible studies in homes
World Net Daily ^ | 3/13/10 | left that other site

Posted on 03/13/2010 6:16:11 AM PST by left that other site

FAITH UNDER FIRE Banished! City forbids Bible studies in homes 'This letter will serve as a 10-day written notice to quit such use' Posted: March 13, 2010 12:20 am Eastern

By Bob Unruh © 2010 WorldNetDaily

The city of Gilbert, Ariz., has ordered a group of seven adults to stop gathering for Bible studies in a private home because such meetings are forbidden by the city's zoning codes.

The issue was brought to a head when city officials wrote a letter to a pastor and his wife informing them they had 10 days to quit having the meetings in their private home.

The ban, however, prompted a response from the Alliance Defense Fund, which filed an appeal with the city as the first step in its campaign to overturn a provision it describes as illegal.

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KEYWORDS: adf; bible; biblestudy; firstamendment; godlessness; liberalfascism; liberalhatred; lping; michaelnewdow; moralabsolutes
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My question is:

Who Squealed?


1 posted on 03/13/2010 6:16:11 AM PST by left that other site
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To: left that other site; Alamo-Girl; 4Godsoloved..Hegave; albie; alicewonders; alnick; ...

First Amendment Ping!


2 posted on 03/13/2010 6:17:20 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: left that other site

Already a thread. But no one squealed. They had signs up throughout the neighborhood asking people to come.


3 posted on 03/13/2010 6:17:53 AM PST by aruanan
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To: bamahead

/mark


4 posted on 03/13/2010 6:20:14 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: left that other site

Screw the “authorities!!!!” Do it anyway. This also implies that a group of students can’t get together and study for a test, because the home is not a “school.”

As I said, screw them!!!!!!!!!


5 posted on 03/13/2010 6:20:35 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: left that other site

“Dear City of Gilbert administrators:

Get bent.

God bless.”


6 posted on 03/13/2010 6:23:38 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: left that other site

Damn the little commie marxists. Their day is coming.


7 posted on 03/13/2010 6:24:57 AM PST by BornToBeAmerican (“If you think education is expensive try ignorance.”)
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One of my pet peeves about American Christians is that they just sit there and take it. They need to keep up their Bible studies...if anything, set them in the Front Yard. Make the Police take them away in a Paddy Wagon, while they were singing hymns.

When the Persian king ordered his Kingdom to worship only him for 30 days, Daniel made it a point to open up the windows and worship the living God.

When Paul and Silas were imprisoned for worshipping the Lord Jesus Christ, they sang hymns until the jail was destroyed in an earthquake.

Those Arizona Christians need to worship the Lord their God in the same way, and invite persecution for His name's sake, instead of whining like a bunch of little babies.

8 posted on 03/13/2010 6:26:17 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/TeddyVWad.jpg)
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To: MuttTheHoople

When I was kid, we used to have a week of summer Bible studies on the front lawn. Child Evangelism, if I recall correctly. It was fun, too. Played a couple of games, got a treat or made a craft, then we heard the Word. An at-home vacation Bible school. Those were the days.


9 posted on 03/13/2010 6:30:13 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: left that other site

Not much for Bible studies but I have the sudden urge to have 20 people over every week to study.

I’d like to see them do this to group Koran meetings in homes.

How much crap are we supposed to put up with.


10 posted on 03/13/2010 6:31:14 AM PST by HonestConservative (http://keepamericasafe.com/savegitmo)
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To: aruanan
Sorry...I looked around and didn't see it!

The signs might be considered a “nuisance”, and may be removed. OTOH, the Right of Freedom of Assembly and Freedom of religion should not be infringed.

11 posted on 03/13/2010 6:31:17 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: MuttTheHoople
One of my pet peeves about American Christians is that they just sit there and take it.

And that irritates the hell out of me.

1. Attack Christians, they just take it.

2. Attack Jews, get sued.

3. Attack Muslims, get killed.

That seems to be how it works.

12 posted on 03/13/2010 6:31:52 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: left that other site

I’ll bet if they had invited people to a group sex party at their private home, the city wouldn’t have had a problem with it.


13 posted on 03/13/2010 6:32:00 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: left that other site

Gee I have family and friends over for CHRISTMAS! Are they going to ban that too?


14 posted on 03/13/2010 6:33:46 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: left that other site

I live in Texas and this happens every single day. I can’t imagine anyone trying to stop it.


15 posted on 03/13/2010 6:35:41 AM PST by BlueAngel
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To: left that other site

I live in Texas and this happens every single day. I can’t imagine anyone trying to stop it.


16 posted on 03/13/2010 6:35:41 AM PST by BlueAngel
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The signs might be considered a “nuisance”, and may be removed.

There go the garage sale signs, the Pancake Day signs, the bulletin boards in family restaurants, the 'Community Calendar' pages in local newspapers, where do you want to draw the line...?

17 posted on 03/13/2010 6:37:27 AM PST by bcsco (Obama: Hokus Pokus POTUS)
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To: ScottinVA

I really have to re-check the source,because every time that
I read one of these articles.I think that its’satire.


18 posted on 03/13/2010 6:41:48 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: mass55th

LOL.


19 posted on 03/13/2010 6:43:24 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: mass55th

Imagine if gays got together to do whatever they do,the city would probably find some grant money to help them.


20 posted on 03/13/2010 6:43:56 AM PST by Farmer Dean (every shot that misses it's target is nothing but useless fireworks)
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To: BlueAngel

Won’t happen, except maybe in Austin and Houston. Why? Because our council members are likely to be participants of the Bible studies.

That, and outside of the big cities, we don’t take too kindly to bureaucrats telling us what to do in our own homes!


21 posted on 03/13/2010 6:44:07 AM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: bcsco

T\”They” already come around and remove Garage Sale Signs around here.

They don’t believe in Free Enterprise, I guess, EITHER. (sigh)


22 posted on 03/13/2010 6:44:54 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: left that other site
Are they next going to ban saying Grace before a meal in homes?

This has gone too far.

23 posted on 03/13/2010 6:45:13 AM PST by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: left that other site

oops. T/”They” should read “They”


24 posted on 03/13/2010 6:45:37 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: left that other site

Well, I’m surprised no one has yet attacked the messenger (WND) or state “if you haven’t done anything wrong, you have nothing to hide”.

I’m surprised no one is saying “So what if you have your home bible studies banned, this is still America and you’re still free to choose to study the works of Marx or the works of Obama. This is America you’re free to drink beer and watch sports! You’re still free. Practice religion in your home in private. That’s freedom.”


25 posted on 03/13/2010 6:47:43 AM PST by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: left that other site

The pastor should just tell them that they aren’t having Bible meetings - they are weekly poker games for the men and bridge club for the ladies. Set up the card tables just in case the SWAT team breaks down the doors.


26 posted on 03/13/2010 6:50:16 AM PST by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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To: 70th Division

After all, your home is not a hotel.


27 posted on 03/13/2010 6:50:37 AM PST by I-ambush (I didn't think, I never dreamed, that I would be around to see it all come true-McCartney and Wings)
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To: BlueAngel
I live in Texas and this happens every single day. I can’t imagine anyone trying to stop it.

[you can say that again!] That's because TX has a First Amendment, and to deal with those who object to the 1st, they have a Second Amendment.

28 posted on 03/13/2010 6:52:13 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: CitizenM

Yet, there is a 29 THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT Mosque being built in my town to serve approximately 30 Muslim families.

They purchased the property without disclosing its future use.

It is right next door to a popular Evangelical Church. The church people are really upset, and had Brigit Gabriel there the other night as a Guest Speaker.

It is a little off the subject, but just thought I would throw it out there for discussion.


29 posted on 03/13/2010 6:52:39 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: left that other site

If they came to my property and tried to remove my sign, they’d leave with one hell of a hurt. If they tried to remove a sign I placed on a corner with the owner’s permission, I’d sue. It’s time we took back our liberties.


30 posted on 03/13/2010 6:52:46 AM PST by bcsco (Obama: Hokus Pokus POTUS)
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To: left that other site

I bet if they were hosting orgies, the law would find no fault


31 posted on 03/13/2010 6:56:45 AM PST by silverleaf ("Congress is America's only native criminal class."- Mark Twain)
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To: piytar
Exactly. I live west of Houston in a very large suburb and we have a Church practically every 3 miles. Some new ones meet at the High School. It would never happen here.

Not only do people have Bible studies in their home but what about Bunco, I know many people that do that every single week. Is that allowed in Arizona?

32 posted on 03/13/2010 6:56:56 AM PST by BlueAngel
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To: RightOnline

LoL!


33 posted on 03/13/2010 6:57:50 AM PST by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: silverleaf

I don’t doubt that.


34 posted on 03/13/2010 6:59:30 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: left that other site

Dear City of Gilbert administrators:

Please provide the names and addresses of all the city “officials” who are behind this ridiculous abuse of power. I want to make sure the spelling is right so that when they come knocking on heaven’s door I can issue them a letter denying entrance.

I will be glad to send the list of names down, down, down, to the burning ring of fire.

Thank you.

Signed,

Saint Peter

cc God


35 posted on 03/13/2010 7:04:22 AM PST by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: bcsco

It is not the signs ON your property they remove, but the signs on public property pointing the way to your property.

I LOVE Garage sales, BTW.

I think they should leave the signs ALONE!

Signs are another way of expressing one’s First Amentment Rights, IMNSHO!


36 posted on 03/13/2010 7:07:37 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: Babalu
I will be glad to send the list of names down, down, down, to the burning ring of fire.

WOW! St.Peter sounds JUST LIKE Johnny Cash! LOL.

Love Your Memo!

37 posted on 03/13/2010 7:09:25 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: left that other site
I'd let the wife conduct the garage sale, then place a sign on a corner and wait...

You can fill in the blanks...

38 posted on 03/13/2010 7:10:12 AM PST by bcsco (Obama: Hokus Pokus POTUS)
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To: BlueAngel

How far west? From North Dallas, it looks to us like Houston itself has seriously gone to the donks. Is that wrong, or have the Christians and conservatives fled to the burbs?

I mean, Austin has always been to the left, although even their donks are to the right of most country club republicans and RINOs on the East and West Coasts. So Austin being donk is expected. But what’s happened to Houston, for example the election of their new ultra-lib mayor, looks scary. Is this media distortion, or have libs taken over there?


39 posted on 03/13/2010 7:17:49 AM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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Ooooooo. You used the

little font.

I KNOW what THAT means! LOL!

40 posted on 03/13/2010 7:20:20 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: left that other site

Well assuming this group doesn’t block roads/driveways with wall to wall parked cars, they should tell the city to PI$$ OFF...and God Bless.


41 posted on 03/13/2010 7:24:45 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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They better not mess with me. I am always armed with a large caliber Bible. I open carry it. It is always loaded. And it is sharper than any two edged sword. Trust me, I’m not afraid to use it. “Whether is is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge, for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard”


42 posted on 03/13/2010 7:27:00 AM PST by circlecity
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PI$$ OFF...and God Bless.

Good tag line! LOL!

43 posted on 03/13/2010 7:29:44 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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44 posted on 03/13/2010 7:32:16 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: left that other site

So big deal: they meet to watch football and happen to bring Bibles. End of issue.


45 posted on 03/13/2010 7:33:49 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: circlecity

They better not mess with me. I am always armed with a large caliber Bible. I open carry it. It is always loaded. And it is sharper than any two edged sword. Trust me, I’m not afraid to use it.

I got one of those too!

46 posted on 03/13/2010 7:34:53 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: left that other site
I live in Gilbert and was shocked when I heard of this ridiculous ruling. When I moved to Gilbert 20 years ago it had a population of 10,000. It now is a city of over 200,000, but it still calls itself a town. The city management unfortunately has only enough competence to run a small town, not a large city. My guess is that this was the action of some incompetent bureaucrat acting on a poorly written zoning bylaw. Gilbert has three large mega churches (4000+ members) that all sponsor home based small groups that will fight this. The large Mormon population will not be affected, because they do not meet in homes, but if they don't support the evangelicals in this issue, they will lose a lot of credibility in the community. I believe this ruling will be quickly reversed, but if it is not I will be moving from Gilbert.
47 posted on 03/13/2010 7:41:05 AM PST by Pres Raygun
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To: Pres Raygun

Your city’s explanation:

http://www.telladf.org/UserDocs/OATCGilbertInterpretation.pdf


48 posted on 03/13/2010 7:45:39 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: piytar
I live in Katy, if I travel about 4 miles East it is Houston. Anything near downtown is pretty much liberal but the outskirts all around Houston is mostly conservative. Houston looks bad to many I guess but there are alot of pockets that are just beautiful and conservative.
49 posted on 03/13/2010 7:55:15 AM PST by BlueAngel
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To: left that other site; All

I am under the belief that the first Christians met, ate and sang in each others homes.

In my humble opinion, we could reach more of our neighbors, if we opened our homes such as those in Gilbert, AZ.

Our dear government wants everything organized, and TAXED.

We may end up hiding from the government, and sharing meals again, soon.


50 posted on 03/13/2010 7:59:10 AM PST by wizr (Keep the Faith! Even when it gets tough! Nothing else will do.)
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