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Turin in Philly
NC Register ^ | March 16, 2010 | JOHN BURGER

Posted on 03/16/2010 10:47:41 AM PDT by NYer

philashroud.org

The faithful venerate the replica of the Shroud of Turin at the Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Philadelphia.

PHILADELPHIA — Not everyone will be able to travel to Italy this year when the Shroud of Turin is on public view for the first time in 10 years.

But Philadelphia might be a good alternative.

A Vatican replica of the Shroud of Turin is on display in the Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception in Philly until June 29, and, according to officials of the Ukrainian Archdiocese, the effect the replica has been having on people is quite profound.

“People are moved by the awesomeness of seeing the shroud and contemplating what Jesus did for them,” said Msgr. Myron Grabowsky, who works in the chancery of the Ukrainian Archeparchy of Philadelphia.

Another advantage is that anyone who comes to the cathedral can spend as much time as he wants in front of the photographic replica. On the other hand, anyone who goes to Turin this year will have a time limit — some say as little as three seconds.

After all, Turin expects about 2 million pilgrims for the rare display, to take place April 10 to May 23. Pope Benedict XVI will be one of those pilgrims, visiting on May 2.

The Philadelphia replica was a gift from Cardinal Lubomyr Husar, major archbishop of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, based in Kiev, Ukraine. It is a photographic replica, overlaid on linen, but, said Father Daniel Troyan, director of evangelization for the archeparchy, “It gives you the same effect.”

Others agree.

Ken Hutchins, who attends Divine Liturgy regularly at the cathedral, remembers thinking when he heard that the replica was coming, “A photograph? Will that have the same impact as if someone went to go see the actual Shroud of Turin?”

But Hutchins reports that he had a “very moving experience” in front of the replica and noticed that others did too.

“I could see that they treated this as if it were the actual burial cloth of Jesus,” said the 55-year-old convert from Protestantism. “Several feet before they got to the front of the line, people would go down on their knees to venerate it as if it were the Good Friday service. They would venerate all the wounds. The fact that it’s a copy became the least important fact.”

There are numerous photographic replicas of the shroud around the country, but this one is unusual for its size, said Russ Breault of the Shroud of Turin Education Project in Peachtree City, Ga. What’s not unusual is the reaction people have when they see such a replica, he said.

“It’s a very powerful reaction,” Breault said. “It is a phenomenal thing when you can be up close and personal.”

Breault will present a multimedia lecture on the Shroud of Turin at the cathedral on April 9 and 10.


Means of Evangelization

Cardinal Husar received two shroud replicas from the Vatican and wanted to share one with an overseas Ukrainian Church, said Father Troyan. Archbishop Stefan Soroka of the Ukrainian Archeparchy of Philadelphia put in a request.

“The Vatican is trying to get veneration of the shroud established throughout the world,” said Father Troyan. “It’s a means of evangelization for whoever has it.”

It seems to be working. Said Father Troyan, “The people who come — rather than running in and running out — are moved to prayer and reconciliation. People who haven’t been to confession in 25 years are asking for the sacrament of reconciliation.”

“People are moved by the awesomeness of seeing the shroud and realizing what Jesus did for them,” said Msgr. Grabowsky.

Both priests reported that hopeful parents lay sick children on the replica, which is situated on a table in front of the cathedral’s icon screen. And one elderly man touched to it a prayer card a priest in Ukraine had given him during the communist persecution, when the Church was forced underground.

The cathedral began displaying the replica of the Shroud on Feb. 21, the first Sunday of Lent. That day in the Eastern Church is always “the Sunday of Orthodoxy,” commemorating the restoration of the use of icons after the period of iconoclasm.

For visitors like Hutchins, the 14’ by 3’ replica itself is a kind of icon. Like an icon, it became a “vehicle to pray to God,” he said.

Father Troyan agreed that people who come to the cathedral see the replica as a kind of icon. “There is no physical description of Jesus in the Bible,” he said. “All of the coins, mosaics, icons since the early centuries, if overlaid with the face on the shroud, have all of the same markings: the position of the eyes, the hair, the beard, the nose and the cheeks.”

Today, about 130 seminarians from the Latin Catholic St. Charles Borromeo Seminary in nearby Overbrook will share in the experience of venerating the shroud. The seminary conducts a biannual walking pilgrimage to Philly-area shrines such as those to St. John Neumann or St. Rita of Cascia. This year, said Father Pat Welsh, dean of men and director of liturgy, the seminary wanted to introduce the students to the Byzantine liturgy and chose to walk the seven and a half miles to the Ukrainian cathedral and attend Divine Liturgy.

“By a happy coincidence,” said Father Welsh, “they are exhibiting the shroud at this time.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Prayer
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To: wagglebee

??? Is it Veronica’s veil or are there two?


41 posted on 03/16/2010 5:33:38 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: cantabile
Thank you! for that marvelous explanation. I love science but would have been a terrible scientist. I rather like keeping some things a mystery. I subscribe to the Astronomy Picture of the Day list and simply marvel at the wonders that fill our heavens. I also teach young children religious education and it is so refreshing to see the world anew through their young eyes. Sometimes we simply need to step back and look up into the sky to grasp the reality of God. When atheists go on the attack with me, I ask them to create something from nothing. Perhaps that is why our Lord said we had to become like little children in order to enter into the kingdom of God.

This suggests that the "moderately early" Church understood there to have been "grave clothes" in addition to a "head cloth".

And it would make perfect sense that the early christians had an understanding of the burial clothes that they safeguarded for so many centuries. Ii has been a while since I visited the Shroud Story web site and in researching some information today, I came across the following:

But the Earliest Words Might Be 1st Century

In a poem, the Hymn of the Pearl, we find Jesus allegorically saying that in a garment, justifiably a burial garment, that he sees two entire images of himself, one facing outward and one facing inward -- in other words ventral and dorsal images.

And what about the other images on the Shroud! And the pollen! It is such a treasure, preserved throughout 2000 years for us to view and on which to meditate, especially in this holy season of Lent.

42 posted on 03/16/2010 5:35:17 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Ann Archy

There are copies of Veronica’s Veil, but the one believed to be the actual veil is at St. Peter’s Basilica. It is displayed once a year on (I believe on Passion Sunday).


43 posted on 03/16/2010 5:38:12 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: cantabile

“At present the carbon-dating results do seem to disprove the Shroud’s authenticity...”

Thank you for your comments. I did not address carbon-dating in my previous post, though I am aware of the controversy. There is evidence that the intense heat in a fire may have scewed those results. Russian scientists had a piece of linen from the time of Christ and did carbon dating on it before and after exposing it to the intense heat. My understanding is that the heat changed to make it look younger than it was, similar to dating of the shroud. The fabric itself matches weave etc from the first century.

Again, it is not about artifacts, it is about Him. And yes, we do need to remind ourselves of our own role in the need for His death and resurrection.


44 posted on 03/16/2010 5:39:05 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: wagglebee

Wow!! I saw the Crown of Thorns at Notre Dame on Good Friday, the only day it’s exposed!!!


45 posted on 03/16/2010 5:40:02 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Also, Veronica’s Veil WAS NOT placed over our Lord when He was placed in the tomb. She wiped His face on the Via Dolorosa.


46 posted on 03/16/2010 5:40:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ann Archy

That would be incredible to see!


47 posted on 03/16/2010 5:44:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I know.....have you been to Israel?? It is UNBELIEVABLE!!


48 posted on 03/16/2010 5:50:40 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NYer

Thanks for the link.


49 posted on 03/16/2010 7:37:06 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Ann Archy; NYer

NYer posted links here about the Sudarium which IS in Spain and DID cover the face of Jesus in the tomb:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2472235/posts?page=25#25

It is a totally different relic from Veronica’s Veil.


50 posted on 03/17/2010 5:13:38 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
SUDARIUM!!! Thank you....dccouldn't think of the name of it!!

Where is Veronica's Veil exactly?

51 posted on 03/17/2010 12:34:51 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
The Veil of Veronica is ALSO a sudarium, but it is kept at St. Peter's in the Vatican.


52 posted on 03/17/2010 12:52:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

OMG!!! How wonderful!! Does the face match the Shroud’s face??


53 posted on 03/17/2010 4:56:18 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

“At present the carbon-dating results do seem to disprove the Shroud’s authenticity...”

http://www.shroudofturin4journalists.com/Shroud-of-Turin-Carbon-14-Dating-Mistake.pdf

If you haven’t seen it, I thought you might find this link iteresting.


54 posted on 03/17/2010 5:04:04 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: cantabile
Just noticed you for the first time on this thread.

"Since March 16, 2010."

Welcome to Free Republic.

Warning: Addictive.

Cheers!

55 posted on 03/31/2010 9:56:04 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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