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Is this the face of Jesus Christ?Figure of crucified man on Shroud comes to life
WND ^ | March 24th, 2010

Posted on 03/25/2010 12:58:38 PM PDT by TaraP

The world will have an extraordinary opportunity to look upon an undistorted, never-before-seen, moving 3-D portrait of a man who many think is the crucified Jesus Christ.

In just one week, graphic experts will bring to life an imprint on the holy relic known as the Shroud of Turin, believed by millions to be the burial shroud of Christ.

The Shroud of Turin bears the full-body, back-and-front image of a crucified man that is said to closely resemble the New Testament description of the passion and death of Christ. The 14-foot cloth long has posed mysteries because of its age and its negative image of a bloodstained and battered man who had been crucified. Believers claim it to be the miraculous image of Jesus, formed as he rose from the dead.

The History Channel will air "The Real Face of Jesus?," a special two-hour event that premieres March 30 at 9 p.m. EST. It aims to bring the world as close as it has ever come to seeing what Jesus may have actually looked like.

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1 posted on 03/25/2010 12:58:38 PM PDT by TaraP
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2 posted on 03/25/2010 12:59:00 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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<img src=The Catholic Church in Turin, Italy, will exhibit the Shroud of Turin from April 10 through May 23, the fifth public exposition since 1898 and the longest in the shroud’s modern history. Jackson is preparing to embark on a pilgrimage to see the Shroud from April 29 to May 6 and is inviting the public to join him.

The official website created by the Archdiocese of Turin for this year’s exhibition estimates 2 million people will travel to Turin to view the shroud. Pope Benedict XVI is scheduled to visit the shroud May 2.

“The shroud is not shown every other weekend,” Jackson said. “If you look at the 20th century, it was only shown four times: 1931, 1933, 1978 and 1998. That’s, on average, about once every 25 years.”


3 posted on 03/25/2010 1:00:52 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

That is a powerful image.


4 posted on 03/25/2010 1:01:01 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("When the national government and Congress start going wild, it's up the states to rein them in.")
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To: TaraP

Interesting difference between Muslims and Christians:
Muslims would kill anyone who dared to show a picture of Mohammad, Christians are dying to see the face of Jesus. In fact we see it everywhere.


5 posted on 03/25/2010 1:01:18 PM PDT by DManA
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To: zot; Interesting Times; SeraphimApprentice

ping


6 posted on 03/25/2010 1:01:32 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Jackson said the shroud shows all the blood wounds that are recorded in the gospels. Among Jackson’s findings he cited:

Bloodstains on the shroud are real, and the blood has not been degraded by heat.
Historians say the stains are consistent with crucifixion, including puncture wounds from thorns and scourge marks from a Roman whip.
A puncture wound in the man’s side is consistent with a Roman spear. And the wound marks showing nail holes through the wrists and heels are consistent with Roman crucifixion.
A textile restorer, Mechthild Flury-Lemberg, in 2002 announced the stitching found in the material had been seen in material from only one other source: the ruins of Masada, a Jewish settlement destroyed in A.D. 74. And the herringbone weave was common in the First Century but rare in Middle Ages.
“It would seem that it’s pretty unique,” Jackson explained. “Crucifixion was done quite a bit in the Roman Empire. It was their way of controlling the population that they wanted to subjugate. But the crown of thorns, according to the gospel accounts, was something that was invented for Jesus because of his claim of being King of the Jews. He was also scourged as well. There was no record that the other two men who were crucified along with Jesus had it happen to them.”

Jackson said generations upon generations of people have passed on the shroud, and much of the information about the origins of the burial cloth was not passed along with it.

“So you just have a degradation of what you know about this cloth,” he said. “So you have to rely upon scientific archeology of the cloth to bridge over some of that ignorance and tie things together.”

The cloth is in the custody of the Vatican, which stores it in a protective chamber of inert gases in Turin’s Cathedral of St. John. History reveals it was exhibited in France about 1360 by Geoffrey de Charney, a French knight who owned it then.


7 posted on 03/25/2010 1:02:24 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

He looks more Western European Caucasian than Middle Eastern Semitic..................Somehow, I don’t think this is what He looks like...........


8 posted on 03/25/2010 1:02:39 PM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: HerrBlucher

I believe we are seeing the Image of Jesus Christ, the image is very powerful as you say....I have heard others say the same thing....


9 posted on 03/25/2010 1:03:36 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

I have no opinion on the shroud either way - it is intriguing though. However, I rejoice with the certainty that I will see Jesus’ face. And with the way events are going around the world, it may be sooner rather than later!

Maranatha


10 posted on 03/25/2010 1:03:37 PM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: TaraP

Jesus looks Italian in all the paintings I have seen.


11 posted on 03/25/2010 1:04:29 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Red Badger

Do we have any images of people and the way they looked in the time of Jesus? I don’t think the people of the Middle East today looked like the people of the Ancient Middle East.


12 posted on 03/25/2010 1:06:19 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

I presume that after the History Channel has shown the picture, it will be available to see? The more people have examined the shroud, the more it looks like the real thing, including even the traces of ancient pollen.


13 posted on 03/25/2010 1:06:20 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: TaraP

The shroud has been carbon dated no older than the 13th century.


14 posted on 03/25/2010 1:06:22 PM PDT by kjo
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To: HerrBlucher

The computer image at the end of the article is amazing.


15 posted on 03/25/2010 1:07:18 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: kjo

That theory has been debunked. If I remember correctly the carbon dating was done on patched parts of the shroud...or somesuch!


16 posted on 03/25/2010 1:08:32 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: DManA

Maybe because Jesus will descend from Heaven and all eyes will be upon him, while the 12th Imam will crawl out of a deep cave, and nobody wants to see that...


17 posted on 03/25/2010 1:08:32 PM PDT by Chattering Class of 58
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To: kjo

Not anymore...They have un-covered the piece of the Shroud carbon dated was the corner of the cloth that had been replaced by the fire in the 13th century.


18 posted on 03/25/2010 1:08:44 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

I remember when I was just a kid STRP announced it was a Medieval fake...somehow I never believed them. You just know that you are looking at the face of Jesus. I get chills when I see it, always have. It feels good that the finally figure out where they went wrong with the carbon dating. It never changed the way I felt about it...I guess that is what faith is all about. Thanks for posting, I look forward to the special.


19 posted on 03/25/2010 1:09:10 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: TaraP
I like this artist's rendition of "the man in the Shroud" the best:


20 posted on 03/25/2010 1:12:38 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: TaraP

The History Channel ran this a while back. Their face of Christ is very different than the shroud reveals. They did forensic studies based on racial characteristics of people living in the ME and came up with a computer image. None of it was based on the shrouds image. Their image looked like a guy from Brooklyn... yo.


21 posted on 03/25/2010 1:12:53 PM PDT by BigFinn
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To: freepertoo
Watch this video: Fabric of Time- It is fascinating on the Shroud and the Quantum Physics behind the resurrection of Jesus Christ..
22 posted on 03/25/2010 1:13:44 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

Gives me chills. Very humbling, to say the least.


23 posted on 03/25/2010 1:14:36 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: TaraP

Awesome. There are no words...


24 posted on 03/25/2010 1:15:15 PM PDT by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: DManA
In fact we see it everywhere.

Tortillas, dead trees, potato chips.. yeah.

25 posted on 03/25/2010 1:15:16 PM PDT by humblegunner (*)
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To: kjo

There is still a lot of controversy regarding the carbon dating of the shroud.


26 posted on 03/25/2010 1:15:52 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: kjo; All
Some food for thought in Post #310 of the thread linked here:

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27 posted on 03/25/2010 1:17:21 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: humblegunner

Look this potato chip looks just like Mohamed.

I KEEEEEL YOU!!


28 posted on 03/25/2010 1:17:34 PM PDT by DManA
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To: freepertoo

Yeah, I think that was it. Anyway, I doubt there will ever be complete agreement but it looks real to me.


29 posted on 03/25/2010 1:17:38 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: TaraP
Bloodstains on the shroud are real, and the blood has not been degraded by heat.

Well, let's run a DNA analysis on the blood, see what we can find out about that.

30 posted on 03/25/2010 1:18:19 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: RightOnline

That is pretty good, it retains most of the power of the shroud.


31 posted on 03/25/2010 1:19:05 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("When the national government and Congress start going wild, it's up the states to rein them in.")
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To: HerrBlucher
I agree, and the image is like no other.... He resembles no other (Facial Features) human being....
32 posted on 03/25/2010 1:19:21 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Swordmaker; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; ..

3-D computer image of body based on information found on the Shroud of Turin (photo: History Channel)


Computer graphics artists use Shroud of Turin images to create 3-D figure of crucified man (photo courtesy of the History Channel)

As for the History Channel documentary, "The Real Face of Jesus?," Downing said at the end of the show viewers will see something rather exciting and unexpected.

"There's a revelation concerning the nature of the encoded information itself," Downing said. "It's a discovery that's going to be there. It doesn't disprove the shroud. It's quite the opposite. It demonstrates that the shroud image is a result of a natural process."

He added, "It witnessed an actual physical event that Christians have come to call the resurrection."


33 posted on 03/25/2010 1:20:15 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Looks real to me, too. I can imagine that the power of his resurrection was powerful enough to imprint the image. What a neat thought.


34 posted on 03/25/2010 1:21:29 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: TaraP

It always seem they are doing something with the Shroud just right around Easter time DNA testing ect....is there a coincidence?


35 posted on 03/25/2010 1:22:14 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: TaraP

Where can I get a copy?


36 posted on 03/25/2010 1:23:01 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: TaraP

Actually, the people of the Middle East look very much as they did in Christ’s time (at least if one looks at Sephardic rather than Ashkenazic Jews).

The most traditional Orthodox icons of the Virgin Mary are patterned on three which the Evangelist Luke painted from life while Mary was still alive. Orthodox icons of Christ in the style dominant in Greece, Cyprus and among Christians in the Middle East are all patterned on the “Icon-not-made-by-hands” and the style that was dominant in Palestine before iconoclasm (cf. the famous icon of Christ from St. Catherine’s Monastery on Mount Sinai).

(One of those things St. John refers to in his Gospel as Christ having done something not recorded therein appears to have been sending an image of His face miraculously imprinted on a cloth which He pressed to His face to King Abgar of Edessa to cure his leprosy. King Abgar believed that merely to see Jesus image would cure him, and, the account tell us that his faith was not disappointed. The cloth, called the “Icon-not-made-by-hands” was preserved at Edessa, later moved to Constantinople, stolen by the Crusaders, and kept in Paris until it was destroyed in the name of “Reason” by the French Revolutionaries. Icons depicting it, well sort of, with Christ’s only shown on a cloth, are now called “the Icon-not-made-by-hands”.)

As an Orthodox Christian, I firmly believe the best of our iconographic tradition, as I described it above, keeps a recollection of what Christ and the Virgin Mary looked like during their earthly lives. And, from what I can see from the article, the reconstructions from the Shroud of Turin agree with our tradition.


37 posted on 03/25/2010 1:23:08 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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A Quantum Hologram of Christ's Resurrection? by Chuck Missler Dame Isabel Piczek—a Hungarian trained particle physicist and internationally renowned monumental artist—has apparently uncovered hard, scientific evidence that Jesus Christ did, in fact, rise from the dead. The entire Resurrection process is akin to the Big Bang creation of the universe when something was created from nothing,” explains Piczek. “You can read the science of the Shroud, such as total lack of gravity, lack of entropy (without gravitational collapse), no time, no space—it conforms to no known law of physics.” Dame Piczek created a one-fourth size sculpture of the man in the Shroud. When viewed from the side, it appears as if the man is suspended in mid air (see graphic, below), indicating that the image defies previously accepted science. The phenomenon of the image brings us to a true event horizon, a moment when all of the laws of physics change drastically. Dame Piczek contends that the image was created in an infinitesimally small fraction of a second and its formation was absent of the effects of gravity.
38 posted on 03/25/2010 1:23:57 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: freepertoo

I watched it on TBN. I believe you can order it there as well.


40 posted on 03/25/2010 1:25:42 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: TaraP

bump


41 posted on 03/25/2010 1:25:52 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: freepertoo

Sorry here is the link!

http://www.tbn.org/watch-us/our-programs/the-fabric-of-time


42 posted on 03/25/2010 1:26:11 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Red Badger

Since he was so badly beaten it is hard to say what He really looked like. The bible says he was beaten beyond recognition.


43 posted on 03/25/2010 1:26:16 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: TaraP

I have been a Christian for about 15 years now but I never paid much attention to the shroud because I didn’t care whether it was legit or not, my faith was already sealed by other means. However, seeing this image for the first time last year all I could say was WOW!


44 posted on 03/25/2010 1:26:35 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("When the national government and Congress start going wild, it's up the states to rein them in.")
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Three-Dimensional Hologram Also featured in the film, The Fabric of Time, is a three-dimensional, anatomically accurate hologram of a crucified man. Working independently of Piczek, a team of Dutch scientists led by Dr. Petrus Soons used laser technology to convert two-dimensional photographic negatives of the image on the Shroud. Among the several discoveries from the holographic image was the identification of the two coins placed over the eyes. These appear to be “widow’s mites,” minted in 29 A.D. in the reign of Tiberius (and which, due to their diminutive value, were not circulated outside of Israel.) The DVD copies of The Fabric of Time include 3-D glasses to better view and appreciate the holographic images.
45 posted on 03/25/2010 1:27:54 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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The inherited factors of inhabitants of a given region change little over time without much outside factors such as war, intermarriage and famine/diseases. People were much shorter then than now. IIRC, the figure on the shroud is over six feet tall, which would practically make him a giant among the populace of the first century, including the Romans. According to first century Josephus, in his description of Jesus, he was not unlike anyone else in the crowd, which fits with the description of the prophecy of Isaiah:

Isaiah 53

1 Who has believed our report?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,
And as a root out of dry ground.
He has no form or comeliness;
And when we see Him,
There is no beauty that we should desire Him.
3 He is despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4 Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;
Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.
5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment,
And who will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.
9 And they[a] made His grave with the wicked—
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.
11 He shall see the labor of His soul,[b]and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,
For He shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,
And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,
Because He poured out His soul unto death,
And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.


46 posted on 03/25/2010 1:28:02 PM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: Bitsy

True, but he also was resurrected and that had to include a restoration of his body to a great extent. When he appeared before the disciples after the resurrection He was whole and they recognized him.


48 posted on 03/25/2010 1:29:19 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("When the national government and Congress start going wild, it's up the states to rein them in.")
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To: Bitsy

Yes on his body..They did not beat his face that was not the method of crucifixcion.


49 posted on 03/25/2010 1:29:36 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Bitsy

Yes, the Bible states that He was beaten and scourged. His back would have looked like hamburger and his face would have been swollen beyond human recognition.................


50 posted on 03/25/2010 1:30:56 PM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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