Posted on 03/27/2010 10:27:09 AM PDT by Colofornian
Translation: There's absolutely ZILCHO DNA evidence for the Book of Mormon!
From the article: The theory...suggests that Book of Mormon events took place in the heartland of the United States, east of the Mississippi River from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico. They have popularized the idea at firesides and conferences, on tours of the Midwest and in DVD sets and books..."The word is out now. There is a movement going through the church," says Porter, a former LDS institute teacher who lives in Arizona and leads tours for LDS Travel, a company associated with LDS Promised Land. "It just rings true to a lot of people," says Meldrum, a Provo businessman who quit his job to focus on research and promotion of the heartland model.
Yeah, that's how Mormons determine truth...
..."'It just rings true...
...It feels like a burning in the bosom..."
...Or to quote Joseph Smith: "The first principles of man are self-existent with God...This is good doctrine. It tastes good. I can taste the principles of eternal life...you taste them, and I know that you believe them. You say honey is sweet, and so do I. I can also taste the spirit of eternal life." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 354-355)
(So Joseph Smith determined his theology by "taste tests" -- just like he determined whether spirits were angels or demons via the color his hair! -- Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 214)
This all just shows Lds say the focus is on supernatural revelation -- but they use sentimentality (feelings, "rings true," "tastes true") to determine truth. That's why heir repetitive "bearing their testimony" is so feelings-based.
False geography based on inventive writing (of sorts).
Ah, is this one of the reasons why the Lds church owned Deseret News/Mormon Times gave Ash & FAIR a weekly column -- so that it could defend itself even against their own grassroots???
So who are the "apostates" here "out of harmony" with Joseph Smith? The leaders of the Mormon church???
I’m going to give you til sundown to settle this, I’ll be back then.
Since there is no “LDS geography” they are free to speculate all they want. You can’t find what doesn’t exist!
What a bunch of friggin kooks.
That’s true - LDS anything is so funny it’s really sad. How can supposedly intelligent people today can believe that stuff ...
Done.
In fact it was done as soon as the BOM was penned.
It is fiction, nothing more.
Next...
They have better writing now, on the SyFy Channel. I swear I want to open up a nightclub in Salt Lake or Provo and name it Caprica... (I'm not brave enough to name it Kolob!)
oh and by-the-way, Glenn Beck is doing the radio spots for this conference...
DAMN it!
Just ASK GOD about it!!
Just like when trying to find out if the BoM is 'true' or not!
What good is a stinking Living Prophet® if a SIMPLE question like where the BoM took place is not answered?
After all, GOD let the BLACKS be priests; finally!
Just PRAY about you guys, and get ON with the PROGRAM!
The theory...suggests that Book of Mormon events took place in the heartland of the United States, east of the Mississippi River...
Well, they keep sniffing closer & closer to the origination point. (After all, Joseph Smith's brain did lie east of the Mississippi River when he invented the BoM.)
Hey, 'twas already clearly revealed as to who constructed the contents of the Book of Mormon...Joseph Smith himself admitted: Behold, thou wast called and chosen to WRITE [not translate, but write, like a novel author] the Book of Mormon... (Lds Doctrine & Covenants, 24:1)
But the REAL action is on Corot-7b!
"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."---Joseph Knight's journal.
"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.
"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.
In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:
"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."
"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)
In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:"When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12June 15, 1879, pp. 190-91.)
Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"("A New Witness for Christ in America,"Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)
"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.
Esp. the Reverend Spaulding issue as well ....
I’ve always wondered how JSjr came up with that planet Kolob.
But then, there are reality shows, rap, America's got ( fll in the blank ), game consoles and texting...
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