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Antony Flew, Unatheist, Dies at 87
The SacredPlace.com ^ | Tuesday, April 13, 2010 | John Bergsma

Posted on 04/14/2010 9:44:46 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: circlecity

The lack of evidence supporting the truth in those creation mythologies, for instance. There’s better evidence supporting contrarian views. How do you contend with this issue, other than by faith?

Metaphysical reality pertaining to what? The creation mythologies?


21 posted on 04/14/2010 12:16:51 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Lee N. Field; DesScorp

Thanks for bringing me around to the “deists” I guess I’m just too keyed into Christianity.


22 posted on 04/14/2010 12:24:28 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: James C. Bennett

Define “evidnece.” And if you define it as empirical knowledge then prove rationally why “evidence” should be so defined so narrowly. Your empiricism can’t explain or provide a shred of proof (or “evidence” as you use the term) as to how the universe came into being. My theology can. And it’s the only thing that can. That there is more proof than you can offer against those “myths”.


23 posted on 04/14/2010 12:26:54 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Lee N. Field

I liken it to what the atheist George Carlin talked about what he believed in, he believed in “The Big Electron”:

“I think we’re part of a greater wisdom than we will ever understand. A higher order. Call it what you want. Know what I call it? The Big Electron. The Big Electron…whoooa. Whoooa. Whoooa. It doesn’t punish, it doesn’t reward, it doesn’t judge at all. It just is. And so are we. For a little while.”


24 posted on 04/14/2010 12:26:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: circlecity
My theology can.

Which is categorised as belief. That's no evidence.

Oxford English Dictionary definition:

evidence: something serving as a proof.

25 posted on 04/14/2010 12:30:52 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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The fact my theology explains something fits your definition of evidence. (a very bad definition by the way). Your empiricism explains nothing of the three items I first posited. I would note also your definition of “evidence” does not preclude the evidence cited as being incorrect. I could cite something as indicating that theorem “A” is more more likely than not, but it could still turn out to be incorrect. Finally, many beliefs are correct and there is nothing wrong with a belief as long as it best explains human experience.
26 posted on 04/14/2010 12:39:59 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Salvation
Actually, Flew was never "Richard Dawkins," because he was never as crass and philosophically illiterate as Dawkins;

LoL. :)

27 posted on 04/14/2010 1:31:58 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege (When I survey the wondrous cross...)
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To: DesScorp
He simply came to believe in a kind of universal prime mover.

Which is all that the intelligent design theory, when applied scientifically, can ever hope to establish.

28 posted on 04/14/2010 1:33:00 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi Tio es infermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: Salvation

We also have a similar thread here :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2492890/posts


29 posted on 04/14/2010 2:01:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: circlecity

Yes, belief. That was my point the whole time. It is all belief.


30 posted on 04/14/2010 2:09:35 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Salvation
I also have no idea if this man really connected with any Christian denomination

Many born-again Christians don't identify with a denomination. For instance, I was baptized in a Baptist Church, and there I fellwowship and worship with my brothers and sisters in Christ, but I do not think of myself as a "Baptist". I am a Christian.

31 posted on 04/15/2010 8:24:38 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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fellwowship

Fell-WOW! Not to be confused with the Sham-wow, LOL!

32 posted on 04/15/2010 8:39:23 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Abortion: one dead, one wounded.)
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Anthony Flew, a former atheist who discovered God, RIP

Antony Flew, Unatheist, Dies at 87

Professor Antony Flew Dies (World's Foremost Rationalist Philosopher/Atheist Who Changed His Mind)

33 posted on 04/23/2010 8:52:06 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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