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Is Sexual Abuse a Catholic Problem Only? (Spotlights Leave Many Other Things in Darkness)
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | April 22, 2010 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/22/2010 3:21:41 PM PDT by NYer

Recent revelations of clergy sex abuse cases here and abroad have caused great distress among the people of God. There is simply no excuse for such offenses that can satisfy, and there should not be. The crime is bad enough but further charges of cover up cause even more distress and anger.

But while the Church remains in the media focus, questions should also arise in the minds of all observers.

  1. Is the Church the only place where such things take place?
  2. Are the Church and Catholic Clergy worse offenders than, say, non-Catholic denominations and clergy, or public schools, or sports teams, scouting and the like?
  3. Are celibate Catholic clergy more likely to offend than married men?
  4. Are Catholic settings more dangerous for children than non Catholic or secular ones?

Many have quickly (and I would say unfairly) concluded that the answers to questions like these would generally be “yes.” For them this is a reason to stay away from Church. Or, for those who dislike and distrust the Church it helps them to become even more hardened in their aversion. But are all these charges against the Church fair? Are there no distinctions to be made? Is the exclusive focus on things Catholic appropriate?

Timothy Radcliff, O.P. the former Master of the Dominican Order has written a thoughtful essay in The Tablet entitled Should I Stay or Should I Go? I would like to print excerpts here and make my own comments. I encourage you to read the whole article by clicking on the blue title in the previous sentence.

Why stay? First of all, why go? Some people feel that they can no longer remain associated with an institution that is so corrupt and dangerous for children. The suffering of so many children is indeed horrific. They must be our first concern. Nothing that I will write is intended in any way to lessen our horror at the evil of sexual abuse. But the statistics for the US, from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in 2004, suggest that Catholic clergy do not offend more than the married clergy of other Churches. Some surveys even give a lower level of offence for Catholic priests. They are less likely to offend than lay school teachers, and perhaps half as likely as the general population. Celibacy does not push people to abuse children. The general media present a very myopic picture by focusing almost exclusively on the Catholic Church. Our offenses are real but so are offenses in other sectors which do not make the news. The fact is the sexual abuse of minors is a worldwide problem made even more extreme by the promiscuous and hypersexualized culture in which we live, especially in the West. Children are often sexualized in movies and advertisements. Women for example have commented extensively on the pages of this blog how hard it is even to buy modest clothes for their daughters. Further, children are exposed to sexual imagery far too early. Both adults and children are inundated by sexual imagery and boundaries are very poor in western culture. In the “old days” young people were chaperoned and there was greater emphasis on modesty. We cannot single out the Church. The sexual abuse of minors is a global problem that cuts across every sector and segment of the human family.

It is simply untrue to imagine that leaving the Church for another denomination would make one’s children safer. We must face the terrible fact that the abuse of children is widespread in every part of society. To make the Church the scapegoat would be a cover-up.….. (Here too, the Criminal Justice System is also to blame. During the same era of the 1950s-1980s too many sexual predators were let off easy. This included rapists. Even today, there are many egregious sex offenders walking our streets. Many have long track records and yet get out early. Recently, two women were killed by a sex offender who was out of jail. He had a track record a mile long and yet he walked freely. Why? So if the Church took such things far too lightly that is wrong. But psychologists, therapists, judges and juries also stand accused. The Church has adopted a zero tolerance policy but our criminal justice system still has too many holes. When will attention turn there?).

But what about the Vatican? Pope Benedict has taken a strong line in tackling this issue as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) and since becoming Pope. Now the finger is pointed at him….I am morally certain that he bears no blame here. (As the evidence continues to unfold it looks as if Cardinal Ratzinger was one who took this matter more seriously that others and for this reason the matter was remanded to his care. Remember that he had a very strong reputation (and was hated by some for it) of being the enforcer-in-chief!)

It is generally imagined that the Vatican is a vast and efficient organisation. In fact it is tiny. The CDF only employs 45 people, dealing with doctrinal and disciplinary issues for a Church which has 1.3 billion members, 17 per cent of the world’s population, and some 400,000 priests. When I dealt with the CDF as Master of the Dominican Order, it was obvious that they were struggling to cope. Documents slipped through the cracks. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger lamented to me that the staff was simply too small for the job.. People are furious with the Vatican’s failure to open up its files and offer a clear explanation of what happened. Why is it so secretive? Angry and hurt Catholics feel a right to transparent government. I agree. But we must, in justice, understand why the Vatican is so self-protective…..Confidentiality is…a consequence of the Church’s insistence on the right of everyone accused to keep their good name until they are proved to be guilty. This is very hard for our society to understand, whose media destroy people’s reputations without a thought (Some of the most important work of the Church has to include an expectation of confidentiality. Every day people in my parish tell me of things that are going on in their lives. Many of these things are of a sensitive and personal nature. I have no right to share this information freely. If there is a serious crime involved and I learn of this matter outside the confessional I do have reporting obligations. But 99.9% of what I am told has nothing to do with crime. As a priest confidentiality, discretion and respect for people’s reputations is paramount. The secrecy of the confessional is absolute. Professional confidentiality while not absolute is expansive and people would never come to me or the Church if they felt that their information would be freely shared or that files with their personal data etc would be freely opened to a nosey media and a demanding state. Covering up a serious crime is a crime. But calling the Church secretive because we do not open our files without limit is unfair. The Church is not secretive. Rather, we are deeply respectful of the privacy and reputation of people who often come to us in their weakness and struggles. A few years ago media and government officials demanded the right to search our priest personnel files without any limits. But that is unjust. I, for example, have never offended sexually. I have never violated my celibate commitment. I have never committed any crime. This is true of almost every priest I have known. It is unfair and unjust to demand that my files be open to anyone who asks. Even though I have nothing to hide, I do have a right to privacy and that my personal files not be opened without warrant. It is the same with my lay employees at the parish and with any other personal information about parishioners).

But what about the cover-up within the Church? Have not our bishops been shockingly irresponsible in moving offenders around, not reporting them to the police and so perpetuating the abuse? Yes, sometimes. But the great majority of these cases go back to the 1960s and 1970s, when bishops often regarded sexual abuse as a sin rather than also a pathological condition, and when lawyers and psychologists often reassured them that it was safe to reassign priests after treatment. It is unjust to project backwards an awareness of the nature and seriousness of sexual abuse which simply did not exist then

Why go? If it is to find a safer haven, a less corrupt church, then I think that you will be disappointed. I too long for more transparent government, more open debate, but the Church’s secrecy is understandable, and sometimes necessary…. And so the Church is stuck with me whatever happens. We may be embarrassed [at times] to admit that we are Catholics, but Jesus kept shameful company from the beginning. (Yes, in the end the Church is not a “haven for saints” only but is also a “hospital for sinners.” Many of the Pharisees of Jesus time were scandalized at the company he kept. Jesus said, those who are well do not need a doctor but the sick do, but I have come to call sinners (Mk 2:17). So the Church is a hospital. And what do we find in a hospital? We find care, medicine, treatment, healing and love. But we also find disease, hurt, heartache, pain, and even death. So in the Church is to be observed great holiness, healing, love and beauty. But in the same Church is to be found sin, sorrow, heartache, sinners and other unpleasant matters. Thank God that Jesus is not ashamed to call us his brethren and to be found in our company! (Heb 2:11))

So, to be fair there is sin in the Church, and we have handled many disciplinary matters poorly. But again, to be fair, we are not alone in this. The spotlight is on us to be sure. But spotlights have a way of leaving many other things in darkness. There are serious problems elsewhere in our society as regards the sexual abuse of minors. Scrutiny is needed everywhere. For the sins of the Church, Lord have mercy! For the sin of the whole world, Christ have mercy. For the sins of our own hearts, Lord have mercy.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abuse; catholic; childmolesters; clergy; msgrcharlespope; sexualabuse

1 posted on 04/22/2010 3:21:42 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
THIS is the article I have been waiting for. Thank you, Msgr. Pope!
2 posted on 04/22/2010 3:22:33 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

homosexuality is also a problem as if a man touches a boy then he is a homosexual


3 posted on 04/22/2010 3:23:48 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: NYer

Jewish here, don’t want to get into Catholic business, but I think that title just begs for an answer - No, it is not just a Catholic problem.


4 posted on 04/22/2010 3:27:52 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: NYer

Good article. Many people are looking for an “out” to leave the demands of Christianity. Citing the hypocrisy of some (a tiny percentage) and saying they are too pure to be part of such a thing is their way of covering their retreat for other reasons (the demands of Christian marriage and family life, the feeling that Christians stick out in a hostile world, ec.).

Things like the public school system have a much higher rate of genuine pedophilia (not homosexual men going after teenage boys, but men going after prepubescent children), and it is usually unpunished. The unions have often prevented notation of these events on the records of teachers, and even teachers who have gone through the criminal justice system and been convicted manage to get rehired in other places and, during their time in the system where they committed the crimes, are usually just sent to hang out at the administrative offices (on those rare occasions where they are removed from their classrooms before the end of the year).

But the public school system makes no demands on the individual conscience, the New York Times and the left love public schools, it teaches 7 yrs olds that gay is good, etc. What’s not to love?


5 posted on 04/22/2010 3:31:05 PM PDT by livius
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To: NYer

Nope, not just a Catholic problem, they just covered it up.

If only the RCC had spent as much time and effort protecting children as they have their reputation.

Why do you keep posting these articles?

FR was not founded to protect Catholicism or any other religion. Way too many religion threads these days...


6 posted on 04/22/2010 3:31:56 PM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: nolongerademocrat
Jewish here, don’t want to get into Catholic business, but I think that title just begs for an answer - No, it is not just a Catholic problem.

Thank you! Recently, a married Jewish rabbi, with children, was arrested in Albany NY, on charges of sexual abuse.

Albany area rabbi arraigned on abuse charges - No children seized from Chabad or Hebrew school

This problem is universal but the msm have focused their spotlights on the Catholic Church. If anything, it has brought very positive results because the Church has responded by cleaning out those who committed these offenses. Here in the US, the Catholic Church has implemented a program to prevent this from ever occurring again. Anyone who comes in contact with children, including volunteers, janitors, educators, etc. must be fingerprinted and undergo a background check. They are also required to attend a VIRTUS program which educates us on how to detect would be predators. Who will take charge of doing the same thing with educators, camp counselors and ministers in other religious denominations?

7 posted on 04/22/2010 3:38:20 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: livius
Many people are looking for an “out” to leave the demands of Christianity. Citing the hypocrisy of some (a tiny percentage) and saying they are too pure to be part of such a thing is their way of covering their retreat for other reasons (the demands of Christian marriage and family life, the feeling that Christians stick out in a hostile world, ec.).

Excellent observation! You are right ... this becomes an excuse for leaving the Sacraments. We live in frightening times.

8 posted on 04/22/2010 3:42:14 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: TSgt
Nope, not just a Catholic problem, they just covered it up.

And what about this?

Another Undercover Video Shows Kentucky Abortuary Failing to Report Child Sex Abuse

Why isn't the msm all over that story?

9 posted on 04/22/2010 3:44:01 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

They are going after the Catholic Church for one reason - it is the largest Christian denomination and is therefore very powerful.

There are separate groups who are working towards the goal of destroying the Catholic Church: 1. muslims - for obvious reasons. 2. Atheists - also for obvious reasons. 3. Gays - because they can’t force church approval of their lifestyles. 4. New-Agers for various reasons ranging from women’s rights to they don’t like the hat the Pope wears. 5. Communists - because they want to BE G-d. And there are others.

It just seems to me that they are all taking open/brazen actions against the Catholics right now. Maybe they are just feeding off of each other, maybe it is the publicity that is encouraging them... but it is an assault from all sides and it is visible.

I personally believe that the assaults are getting stronger now because we have a muslim President who stood at a podium and announced to the world that this is no longer a Christian nation. He basically gave them all permission to try to destroy the Catholic Church.

What to do about it? Fight back, it is the only thing you can do if you want your Church to survive. Confront the lies wherever you see them. Don’t let outsiders define who you are - speak out strongly and tell the world what you really believe.


10 posted on 04/22/2010 3:48:43 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: nolongerademocrat
Thank you for the post and ping. Excellent observations.

Fight back, it is the only thing you can do if you want your Church to survive. Confront the lies wherever you see them. Don’t let outsiders define who you are - speak out strongly and tell the world what you really believe.

The Church is not into finger pointing but does deal with its own.

Church will act against sex abuse, pope promises victims

In the meantime, as I pointed out to another poster, who will address these abuses in other denominations, schools, camps, et al?

11 posted on 04/22/2010 3:56:36 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

Kinda a no brainer for those with a brain - sexual abuse is not only a Catholic issue, all denominations and organizations have to deal with and guard against it. I think what may have made the issue worse within the Catholic Church is the appearance of protecting the pedofiles, rather than cauterizing the problem quickly.


12 posted on 04/22/2010 3:57:24 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: NYer

Is it a Catholics only game?
Look to the Koran and its followers. Good old mo? Endorsed little girls and little boys, thus its spread across the “faith”.
Look at woman’s rights as another example....their failings are endless... and codified. Blessed!


13 posted on 04/22/2010 3:57:37 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: NYer
Only two threads before yours, the answer appears.

ML/NJ

14 posted on 04/22/2010 3:58:03 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
Only two threads before yours, the answer appears.

???

15 posted on 04/22/2010 4:00:12 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer
???

Former Lauderhill Middle School teacher accused of sex with student

Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:20:09 PM · by ConservativeStatement · 21 replies · 779+ views

ML/NJ

16 posted on 04/22/2010 4:07:15 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: NYer
Want more?

ML/NJ

17 posted on 04/22/2010 4:09:42 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: NYer
I know a reasonable number of Catholics and ex-Catholics. I have NEVER heard one of them indicate that they had even heard of such perversion. (I have heard about the nuns and their rulers!) I don't doubt that it goes on somewhere. The Church is a huge institution. But I just haven't heard of it except via the MSM. I have heard my Rabbi warn a girl going down to DC for a summer internship whom she should stay away from.

ML/NJ

18 posted on 04/22/2010 4:19:09 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: NYer
There's no way it's just a Catholic problem.Many Protestant denominations in the West have openly embraced homosexual clergy in recent years.Same with Jewish congregations.Any pervert member of the clergy,just like any pervert shrink,teacher,cop,social worker,can have access to young,vulnerable kids.

The only difference is that,today,the Catholic Church is pretty much the only one in the West that *hasn't* gone PC and,as a result,it's been targeted by the usual (leftist) suspects.

19 posted on 04/22/2010 4:21:09 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: NYer

How about all of those SCHOOL TEACHERS we have been having sex with children. (Men AND Women)!

Of course they are not Catholics so they are not evil, just lonely and teaching children new things.


20 posted on 04/22/2010 4:33:40 PM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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To: NYer
Of course it's not.
There is probably 30,000 Catholic Churches world wide.

The Communists wait until Easter to attack the pope with a
38 year old case where the perpetrator is dead.
This will all die down until Christmas.
Where they will hatch another grievance to attack.

Make no mistake about it, their grievance is not with the church but with GOD.

21 posted on 04/22/2010 4:59:21 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: ml/nj
I know a reasonable number of Catholics and ex-Catholics. I have NEVER heard one of them indicate that they had even heard of such perversion.

My house knew, but it was because of a circle that WASN'T Catholic. A story was repeated to a member of my family. As a cultural matter, this sort of stuff remains behind the closed door of a house. We all kept our mouths shut. That priest was laicized in the Scandal and is currently in prison in another state on a matter that occurred after he was dismissed from the priesthood.

Where this is all going off the rails is the lack of keeping the details in mind, like that when a case involves the confessional, the seal must remain intact. In at least one case that's at issue right now, that's a detail. In another, the priest himself requested to be released in order to marry and started the molestation bit after he was laicized and married. It's a huge mosh pit of bits and pieces, but never the whole story. That's not fair to anyone involved.

22 posted on 04/22/2010 5:37:47 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: nolongerademocrat

You speak the truth. Thanks.


23 posted on 04/22/2010 6:55:24 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TSgt

And you don’t think other denominations cover these things up?

I think you might be misled there if that is what you believe.


24 posted on 04/22/2010 6:56:27 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gay State Conservative

**The only difference is that,today,the Catholic Church is pretty much the only one in the West that *hasn’t* gone PC and,as a result,it’s been targeted by the usual (leftist) suspects.**

Bingo! The prize-winning statement is over here, folks!


25 posted on 04/22/2010 6:59:32 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TSgt

Like it or not, the Church is being hammered for doing what was normal for all institutions, which was taking child abuse lightly. The California priest was given a slap on the wrist by the Criminal justice system, convicted and put on probation, because —I imagine—because they saw worse things every day in domestic settings. As a former teacher, I know how schools handled most cases. The accused teacher was just sent away. Of course, the way things work generally, those falsely accused sometimes were treated more preemptorily than more serious offender. A young teacher accused of making excessive eye-contact with a girl left; a coach caught rubbing up to a girl was allowed to stay, even though his wife left him. Child abuse was a big problem in the military, but commanders were loathe to discipline a “good soldier” who happened also to be a brute who beat his wife and children.


26 posted on 04/22/2010 9:04:04 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS
Like it or not, the Church is being hammered for doing what was normal for all institutions, which was taking child abuse lightly.

Your examples are quiet a bit different than child rape. And all institutions do not profess to be the world's moral authority.
27 posted on 04/22/2010 9:07:09 PM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Salvation

The Mainline Churches have pretty much broken with the Great Christian Tradition, including traditional morality. One result is that they are dying. Hans Kueng—a major critic of the pope—wanted the Catholic Church to follow the same path. Deformation as reform.


28 posted on 04/22/2010 9:07:43 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: TSgt

Not all these cases were child rape. Sexual abuse is a broad category. As for being “the world’s moral authority,” the perps were disregarding the standards the Church upholds. The existence of law-breakers does not discredit the law, does it? The problem with the perps is that they served to discredit one of the few institutions that sets “high” moral standards.


29 posted on 04/22/2010 9:15:24 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

True, however one cannot absolve the Vatican until their ranks are purged of the enablers, i.e. Cardinal Law.


30 posted on 04/22/2010 9:17:31 PM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt

I agree that Law should have been “retired,” not given a slot in the Vatican. But a worse offender —probably—was the Cardinal archbishop of California. Mahoney —it seems—was in tight with the liberal Establishment and so able to avoid the kind of exposure that ruined Law’s reputation.


31 posted on 04/22/2010 9:31:42 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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“FR was not founded to protect Catholicism or any other religion. Way too many religion threads these days...”

I thought FR was founded for the freedom of telling the TRUTH. That’s one of the reasons I joined. As for your second statement, the *root* of ALL of the world’s problems is spiritual. This is another reason I joined, because FR allows such threads.


32 posted on 04/23/2010 5:50:38 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita
Perhaps a refresher would help:

Free Republic is the premier online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America.

We would all be better served if we were more like the Tea Party, focus on basic conservatism and not let other topics divide us.
33 posted on 04/23/2010 5:55:53 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt

The other topics do not have to divide us. Freedom of speech is one of our highest values.

My Tea Party signs are downstairs in the garage. ;-)

(The ROOT of all our problems is spiritual.)


34 posted on 04/23/2010 6:02:22 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

Religion and spirituality are such personal topics that the threads often get caustic and FReeper turns on FReeper.

We have a common core believe in conservatism, that is our strength.

FWIW I wish only contributing members could post articles on FR. There are too many freeloaders who stir up trouble.


35 posted on 04/23/2010 6:08:07 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: NYer

Thank you for posting this.


36 posted on 04/23/2010 10:12:04 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: nolongerademocrat

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I’ve grown rather weary with everything going on: Cap and Tax, Health Care “reform”, activist judges, leftist “czars”, record spending (and that’s putting it mildly). The recent focus on the Pope and the Church is just another, the way I see it.

I don’t know why some FReepers have taken it upon themselves to constantly remind Catholics, of which I am one, that “Hey, did you know some of your priests are kiddie touchers?”.

Yeah, we know. Thanks for the newsflash. < /sarcasm >

Here’s another newsflash: it’s being dealt with. I don’t know why that hasn’t sunk in.


37 posted on 04/23/2010 11:37:48 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

I understand. We get the, “80% of Jews voted for Obama, it is all your fault he’s the President” treatment. It is just one of those things.


38 posted on 04/23/2010 1:42:02 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: NYer

Is Sexual Abuse a Catholic Problem Only? >>

no, it’s pervasive in all faiths including evangelical and Judaism. In the case of the Catholics, the msm hammers away at them daily while ignoring the others..

It’s more pervasive in the teaching and coaching professions..


39 posted on 04/23/2010 6:06:05 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: NYer

Excellent article.


40 posted on 04/24/2010 5:58:11 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

Gteat post! Thanks!


41 posted on 04/24/2010 6:36:50 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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