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Glenn Beck to Give Liberty U. Commencement Speech
Christianity Today ^ | April 23, 2010 | Sarah Pulliam Bailey

Posted on 04/23/2010 8:46:44 PM PDT by Colofornian

Fox News commentator Glenn Beck will deliver the commencement address at Liberty University's May 15 graduation.

“Beck is one of the few courageous voices in the national media standing up for the principles upon which this nation was founded,” Jerry Falwell Jr., chancellor of Liberty University, said in the school newspaper's story.

The baccalaureate address will be delivered by Paige Patterson, president of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, whom Falwell called one of the “patriarchs of Christian higher education."

SNIP

In 2008, Focus on the Family pulled an interview with Beck over concerns with his Mormon faith. Christianity Today did a feature on Liberty last fall and has followed Beck's call to "leave your church" if it promotes social justice.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.christianitytoday.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: 2010commencements; beck; christiancolleges; evangelical; fallwell; glennbeck; lds; liberty; libertyu; mormon; virginia
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To: CommerceComet
On #2, yes, and this was the position of Walter Martin. Yes, pray with Mormons; but don't let them lead in praying to their false gods.

On #3, Beck would not agree to it & would probably deem it insulting.

Therefore, Liberty is not issuing any qualifier or caveat. It was a carte-blanche invite, which thereby means it was issued with Liberty's carte blanche endorsement of all Beck products.

I suppose we now can expect Liberty to invite a whole host of future cultists?
(1) Sun Myung Moon hated the communists after having been locked up by them in Korea. So Liberty can invite Moon to speak on anti-communism. (Never mind that he's a Messianic rival to Jesus; and some even claim he has somehow helped the North Koreans obtain submarines). Source for 2nd tidbit: http://www.mda.mil/global/documents/pdf/env_bmds_peis_vol3.pdf p. K-182

(2) According to the book referenced below, Jehovah's Witnesses oppose abortion and euthanasia. Therefore, when can we expect Liberty to invite the "grand poobah" of Kingdom Halls to come to the Liberty campus to enlighten its students on the JW sanctity of life ethic? (source: p. 40 of book Cultures of Color in America).

(3) A number of years ago, when Scientologists thought they were getting the short shrift of religious liberties by govt officials and reputation-wise, they did two things:
(a) They started having some of their leaders to wear white collars so they would be officially "recognized" as "ministers";
(b) They started putting out in-depth flyers and newspapers geared toward religious liberties and how our country was founded on religious liberties and how we need to cherish and protect religious liberties. And oh, BTW, especially Scientologists' "liberties!"

Therefore, when can we expect Liberty to start inviting Scientology reps to come on campus to speak out protecting religious liberties?

21 posted on 04/24/2010 10:00:18 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: CommerceComet
Oh, and also...
(4) Islam vehemently opposes homosexuality. So we can now expect Liberty to bring us an Imam who will discuss this subject as well?
22 posted on 04/24/2010 10:09:23 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
On #3, Beck would not agree to it & would probably deem it insulting.

Then the controversy would be settled. I wouldn't have an issue if BYU put reasonable restraints on a speaker. While I wouldn't deliberably attempt to insult a Mormon speaker, if he or she gets insulted by me (or my organization) acting in accordance with my conscience, then so be it. As I stated, an organization has a right to limit the content of the speaker's talk (within reason) or to state a fundamental disagreement with the speaker. If the speaker doesn't like it, he or she can go elsewhere. The limitations are making it clear that the university wants to hear Beck's political insights, not his Mormon testimony.

Therefore, Liberty is not issuing any qualifier or caveat.

That's what I feared.

It was a carte-blanche invite, which thereby means it was issued with Liberty's carte blanche endorsement of all Beck products.

I'm not sure I would make the same inference.

23 posted on 04/24/2010 11:33:37 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: Semperfiwife; evangmlw

He has not become a leader in the church, going to ceremony after ceremony, swearing he will cut his throat before he would reveal the secrets of the temple, which by the way is protected by the Pentagram (it is on their holy underwear as well).

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beck is temple worthy, and thus has taken out the oaths in the temple, (the throat cutting words were cut in 1990), and they have the compass and square on their garments, not a pentagram, although they do have pentagrams in their temple architecture.

Nevertheless, Beck is NOT ‘mormon light’. He is decieved and apparently hasn’t researched his faith like he researches politics, which is sad


24 posted on 04/24/2010 12:13:16 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Colofornian

I was never a big fan of Falwell, but I am concerned about LU giving quarter and honor to a member of a non-Christian group.


25 posted on 04/24/2010 12:14:17 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Utah Binger

In most cases they are using the religion to get something or to get gain in the ranks.

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If you are right about this, then it gives more credence to my ‘prophecy’ that Beck will come out in support of Romney (who comes from LDS royalty and much more likely to become a General Authority).


26 posted on 04/24/2010 12:31:35 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Ripliancum

Just because it has happened before doesn’t make it right.


27 posted on 04/24/2010 12:32:17 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Not to you perhaps, but to the leaders of these schools it does.
28 posted on 04/24/2010 12:35:58 PM PDT by Ripliancum (I'm not ignoring you, just taking good counsel. - Proverbs 15:1-4)
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To: Colofornian; All

I just called the University and left a message on the Chancellor’s voice mail expressing my concern about their inviting a non-Christian to speak at their commencement with no caveat.

(434) 582-2000 (University Switchboard), hit 0 for operator and asked for the Chancellor’s office.


29 posted on 04/24/2010 12:43:35 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Ripliancum

And they should be informed that others do not agree with them.

Leaders of schools do stupid things all the time, and things that upset their donors/alumni.

Would you just sit by if BYU invited Chavez to speak at their commencement? Or Richard Dawkins?

No non-Christian should be invited to speak at a Christian college commencement. And Mormons are NOT Christians, by their own theology.


30 posted on 04/24/2010 12:46:38 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
It's interesting that you think that you are more intelligent or have thought it through more the Chancellors of these universities. No offense, but to me this is also symptomatic of you thinking Glenn Beck didn't research out Mormonism thoroughly before joining the Church, despite the statements by Beck himself that he did.

I'm sure glad everyone is not cut from the same mold.

Have a nice day.

31 posted on 04/24/2010 12:53:08 PM PDT by Ripliancum (I'm not ignoring you, just taking good counsel. - Proverbs 15:1-4)
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To: reaganaut

I concur!


32 posted on 04/24/2010 1:15:08 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: Ripliancum

Having worked at Universities, it is a reasonable assumption that I have thought it through more than most Chancellors do. It is a ‘dirty little secret’ that useless profs with tenure or ones that have ‘gone off’ are promoted to Administration.

Secondly, ‘making it personal’ is against forum rules. :) Shame on you.

Finally, if Beck had REALLY studied Mormon doctrine and history before he joined, he never would have fallen for Mormonism. It is too easy to pick apart.


33 posted on 04/24/2010 1:23:15 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Are you saying Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell Jr. are “useless profs with tenure” who don’t care about their own Universities?

Perhaps you should apply for the job at both universities.

Or get your own show on Fox and be known for a great researcher and with an astute mind with reasoning abilities above most.

I’m sure you can do any of them so much better. ;-)


34 posted on 04/24/2010 1:31:52 PM PDT by Ripliancum (I'm not ignoring you, just taking good counsel. - Proverbs 15:1-4)
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To: reaganaut

They’re all running for GA including Beck. He just has not learned that there is no advantage for the brethren to select him as he doesn’t have the proper cachet nor the Mormon Royalty blood.

Romney on the other hand may just give up politics and start running for GA. That way he could say he has been given a “higher calling”.

And then all of the passed over little morgbots of this world will be swooning. He could then bring along the idiot Harry Reid as he too will soon be out of work.


35 posted on 04/24/2010 1:45:11 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Twelve Miles East of Zion National Park)
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To: reaganaut

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2499807/posts


36 posted on 04/24/2010 1:57:58 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Twelve Miles East of Zion National Park)
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To: Ripliancum

In those cases they were televangelists who founded the Universities and THAT is why they go the job.

They may care, but that doesn’t mean they don’t make poor decisions.

And I probably could do better, but I like current profession, TYVM and I love my anonymity.

And I wouldn’t call Beck a ‘great’ anything, much less researcher.


37 posted on 04/24/2010 1:58:12 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Utah Binger

They’re all running for GA including Beck. He just has not learned that there is no advantage for the brethren to select him as he doesn’t have the proper cachet nor the Mormon Royalty blood.

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Exactly. Beck doesn’t have much of a chance to ever make GA, Romney has a good chance, OTOH.

And I think you are on to something with the “higher calling”.


38 posted on 04/24/2010 2:00:22 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Ripliancum; reaganaut
Or get your own show on Fox and be known for a great researcher and with an astute mind with reasoning abilities above most

#1 Beck pays his researchers to research for him;
#2 beyond that, how many hundreds of thousands of people have an "astute mind" with above-average "reasoning abilities"?

39 posted on 04/24/2010 2:19:48 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

... a great researcher and with an astute mind with reasoning abilities above most

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I certainly wouldn’t say that bout Beck in the least.

You are correct about him paying his researchers (I suppose I could apply for THAT job - I am a researcher anyway after all), and if he was that astute and had that ‘above average’ reasoning abilities, then WHY on Earth is he LDS?

Unless he is just lying to everyone and is only a member for the social things or to please his wife and he really doesn’t believe it, which would make him deceptive and thus not trustworthy.

Just another example of ‘Beck Worship’ that we see on here.


40 posted on 04/24/2010 2:26:19 PM PDT by reaganaut ( "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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