Posted on 04/24/2010 6:11:29 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
In the 6000+ years of man’s history, the “pinnacle moment” is the Abomination of Desolation, the key event that will occur in the midst of the Tribulation (a terrible seven-year period that will mark the end of this age). It will be the time when the Man of Lawlessness (i.e., The Anti-Christ) will break his covenant with Israel (Daniel 9:27) and establish himself as Almighty God (Daniel 11:36-37, 2 Thess. 2:2-4, Rev. 13:14-15). He will demand total, absolute allegiance and worship (Rev. 13:16-18).
This master politician of Europe's Socialistic European Community (Daniel 9:26) will rise to power, but it isn't until the key event of the Confirming of the Covenant with Israel that He will be revealed as the Man of Sin, Lucifer's Anti-Christ (2 Thess. 2:7-8). At this time the Anti-Christ will establish himself as a capable leader and will emerge as the key player on the world stage. Due to the myriad of conflicts, crises and confusion, He will quickly militarize and rebuild Europe's military strength (Daniel 11:38). It is during the first half of this seven-year period that he will win over the world's affections. He will be the darling of the global media; he will be praised as the peace-maker/ fighter and protector of "human" rights (Rev. 6:2).
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Matthew 24:21 (Christ quoting Daniel 12:1) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, (wonder what happened then) no, nor ever shall be.
Matthew 24:22 AND except those *DAYS* (of Daniel) should be shortened, there should no *FLESH* be saved: ***BUT**** for the elect's sake those days SHALL be shortened...
Simply put by Christ Himself the tribulation is not going to be 7 years long...
That's pure supposition...Daniel 9:26 doesn't say that at all!
Dan 9:26
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16492/showrashi/true
“And after the sixty-two weeks, the anointed one will be cut off, and he will be no more, and the people of the coming monarch will destroy the city and the Sanctuary, and his end will come about by inundation, and until the end of the war, it will be cut off into desolation.”
...The anointed one will be cut off: Agrippa, the king of Judea, who was ruling at the time of the destruction, will be slain...
...and the people of the coming monarch will destroy: [The monarch who will come] upon them. That is Titus and his armies...
...and his end will come about by inundation: And his end will be damnation and destruction, for He will inundate the power of his kingdom through the Messiah, and until the end of the wars of Gog the city will exist...
In fact, since 9/11 and the front and center entrance of Islam on the world stage, many think the AC will be what the Muslims call the Mahdi...and their Issa will be the non-Muslim worlds "False Prophet."
While there is abundant evidence for God in and over existence, there is not a single example of Satan's operation in the universe outside the human mind.
And that's exactly what he (Satan) wants you to believe!;-)
What could be a greater abomination than that big satanic dome sitting on top of the Temple Mount?
One of the striking things about BO’s run for the Pres. was the facts were there in front of everyone concerning his intentions were he to win the election.....and he is doing exactly that. Wright's church should have been a huge wake-up call... even Hillary stated he was too far left...there were many voices who stated the facts as they really were and people did indeed listen....... but refused to hear.........
We all saw the throngs of people caught up in obama-mania. I know I spoke with people who were impossible to reason with....the facts would not deter their utter devotion, and for many to even their own surprise, who are now trying to back peddle..too late.
So the public in general is already sat up to be deceived and they will be regardless what they may imagine otherwise. God said they will be sent a great delusion to believe the lie and that they will do..... Which means if one has not committed to Christ before the tribulation it will be too late once it begins. There will not be a second chance in that time. Only those who have not heard the Gospel before the tribulation will have the opportunity during to give their life to Christ...and then it will cost them their life.
Well then, please demonstrate evidence for this Satan anywhere in the universe prior to “his” involvement with human beings.
Satan the serpent had to have gotten that knowledge of good and evil he whispered into Eve's ear before he involved her in his seduction. Moses pens in Genesis 1:2 of the King James Version And the earth 'became' without form and void: and darkness was upon the face of the deep. ....
What is the evidence you require as acceptable for demonstration? There are all manner of dino fossils that demonstrates an age before flesh man was put upon this earth. The earth is pocked full of marks that demonstrate some kind of cataclysmic action took place eons ago.
I can't point to "his" activity in the universe, but then mankind's knowledge of the universe (and mine) is quite limited. For example, try to envision God activities outside His involvement with man?
Our perspective is limited to our experience...and our experience, with a few exceptions, is limited to this planet.
What I can do is tell you that Scripture is full of circumstantial evidence and direct discussion of his existence. Furthermore, there are authoritative figures outside the religious community who have experience with such an entity.
For example, Scott Peck's book "People of the Lie" provides an interesting chapter on demonic possession and the involvement of the psychiatric profession in exorcisms.
BTW, it is not my place to try to convince you one way or another as to Satan's existence or lack thereof. It is a spiritual matter and that requires a personal search for proof or evidence of a different kind. Also, as is the case with God, whether you believe in his (Satan's) existence or not is unrelated to whether or not he exists.
Ditto to that!
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary..
Who destroyed the city and sanctuary of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.?
that will be the people of the Anti Christ.
true... not for long though... When Israel rebulids the temple where that dome is and the Anti christ sets him self up as God... that will be a bigger one!
(2 Thes 2:3-4)
I was saying that the following statement of yours is supposition...
This master politician of Europe's Socialistic European Community (Daniel 9:26) will rise to power
Scripture doesn't tell us (to my knowledge) that the AC will be a master politician of the EU.
So much of what folks believe about the AntiChrist comes from popular culture and movies and wild predictions of eschatologists using outdated symbolism from the last century to tell us what Prophecy is telling us. Little of what we believe we know can be found in Scripture.
In this same vein (and as a silly aside), I once had a friend assure me that the AC would be named Damien.;-)
As another poster stated upthread, what greater Abomination could there be than to have a Satanic mosque on Temple Mount.
The creation of the universe is itself a cataclysmic action, as are the violence in the initiation and tearing apart of stars, 2 or 3 of which had to evolve before the Sun hence its metal content. Yet such upheaval does not demonstrate Satan but rather the way in which God develops the universe.
Our “expereince” in the universe, such as it is, extends actually some distance as we can see deeply back into the reaches of distance and hence time to some very early instances of creation. God is perhaps most plain in that “nothing comes from nothing”. Yet quantum uncertainty keeps us from knowing its earliest onset. M-Theory suggests that the “multiverse” is like a loaf of bread: cut into slices, each one separated eternally out of contact with the other. The weakness of gravity however, compared to the three other known physical forces operating in our universe, suggests that some sort of transfer mechanism possibly acts between them, which yields the hope that some semblance of that ever deeper aspect of our existence may yet be learned.
God is in these details. Though I can’t prove it, I’d yet lay a considerably higher probability for as against it.
Though still throughout, no Satan. Or at least no evidence for one. It’s possible that some other intelligence in another galaxy perceives of some sort of devil giving rise to the structural problems of its existence as well. But its challenge to demonstrate it outside of its own experience would nonetheless remain the same.
I strongly suspect that this is God himself. Otherwise it undermines monothesim. And God has to have a being made "in His image" that can make choices. Otherwise there would seem no point to have made that being.
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